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Female Submissive, 33, Perth
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Male Dominant, 47, Scranton, Pennsylvania
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Male Switch, 52, Santa Barbara, California
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About PaganLove
Up Dated 12 Dec11
I've changed my sexuallity to straight because CM doesn't have hetroflexible in it's choices. Due to my constant attempts to learn more and continue growing it was necessary for me to change some views and opinions! The more I learn about BDSM and Collar.Me the more necessary this becomes!
After a lot of soul searching and talking to friends and my wife I've come to the conclusion that I am a Dom/Master and would not be happy as a switch other than an occassional role play. I'm just not the in your face type so many are looking for. I love cuddling! I also love giving spankings, gentle sensual riding crops and whips! I love denying orgasm until you're a quivering, screaming, begging mess and can't use your legs or control yourself! If that is the type of sadist you're looking for I'm your man. I devolped this in my twenties and refined it over 25 years with my ex. If I allowed her to orgasm I was lucky to even have her get me off. She wasn't multi-orgasmic and was finished as soon as she came. My wife now is multi-orgasmic and loves being driven to gentle orgasms for hours rather than a single one that leaves her in a coma. I'm not in my teens or twenties any more so I'm normally only good for 3 or 4 times a day instead of 8 to 10. Of course I also last much longer too.
In my wife's Wiccan Tradition self-flagilation is a practice used for centering and concentration. Many find it to be pleasureable, though not all.
We don't have any hang ups about age, color or physical looks but we do require that you be mature enough to be able to commit to a life long commitment if things work out. If all we were looking for was casual sex there are plenty of swinger groups for it.
As some younger people have asked me I thought I'd place in here that no I've never had any desire or fantasy to have sex with any of my children! Role playing is fun but just that. I like teaching what I've learned and having younger people around keeps you young in your thinking and in living your life. Most of our friends are ten to thirty years younger. We don't mind being with people of our ages as long as they don't think and live like old people! As they say we all get old but not all of us grow up! We know people in their 20's that think and live like they're in their 60's.
We are a poly-fi Pagan/Wiccan couple who live for riding our motorcycles, reading, having discussions on almost every thing, and who enjoy living a rural life style. My wife is a third degree High Priestess with a BA and Masters Degree. She is beginning to get into bondage and discipline. Addressing her as mistress or my lady is only done when she is performing duties as a High Priestess. She is submissive only when it comes to sex. Outside of sex she strongly objects to being told what to do. She does not like to tell others what to do, she is not a domme. She is the introvert to my extrovert.
We are looking to establish a emotionally compatible poly-fi or line married family.
A little about me now. I had ten children and now have 14 grand kids with more on the way. I served in the Army for eight years and had two combat specialties. I have six daughters and four sons. I've been retired since 2002. I had to take a medical retirement due to work place injuries and Fibromyalgia. I started riding motorcycles in 1967 in Northern California in the Napa Valley. I played football, was in the JROTC, sang in choir and was in a couple of musicals. I finished my high school in San Francisco in the late '60's at an honors school. I had four years of college in four different colleges, which explains why I don't have a degree. Two junior colleges, UC and UNLV. My military service left me with a busted hip, PTSD and fibromyalgia. In addition to motorcycles I love reading sci-fi and historical fiction, camping, cuddling, Ren Faires, listening to music (mostly rock, blues and Celtic), and being outside. We are active in the SCA. I have a nice collection of swords and daggers from different periods. Clothes from a few different periods. I used to make my own swords and things but my ex sold them without my knowledge saying that they weren't safe around children.
Obviously I'm looking for people who aren't going to try and dominate me or play head games. They have to enjoy camping, motorcycles, light drinking, some mellow times, reading, the SCA, Ren Faires, be able to relocate, and be tolerant of our spirtual beliefs. Both of us started out as Christians so we're not going to see the light if you want to convert us. I'm into heavy rock, Goth, blues, Celtic, reggae, Latin and other types of music. Not really into country music other than outlaw and old western. I like women rather than men but am mildly bi when aroused or emotionally attached. For some reason Transgendered seem to really attract me, though I have no idea why. I'm highly sexual in nature and expect the same in others. I love to explore sexual things and don't like to get into a rut. We're not looking for short casual relationships but for long term ones. Being bi or bi curious is required. |
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I finally found out what my wife would be considered while on . She is a sub with a dominate personality! |
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There have been a lot of changes since my last journal entry and I'll be updating our profile very soon! If you see any thing interesting or have questions please message us. We don't have the time to message everyone any more just for stopping by our profile! I've also had to stop sending long initial messages until someone shows interest in us. So many people ask for long messages but don't even give back a no thank you. |
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Sorry I haven't been around much! I'm in the process of moving to our new home and will be off the net for four or five days. |
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I hadn't realized how long it's been since I wrote in here! A lot happened over the summer. Cris had a lot of complications. First the wound tore open and we had to pack it and irrigate it a few times a day. Then she had allergic reactions to anti-biotics and broke into hives! Then she developed MERSA and had to be treated for it. Her Mother's illness got worse and then she finally died. With all of Cris' sick leave and annual leave used we were short money. As we got over that her Mom died and we had to come up with funeral costs.
Now we're into recovery and have finally signed the final paper work for our new doublewide! I'm looking forward to getting out more and meeting people! My friend who introduced me to CM went on to and since she's encouraged me to check it out I've found that I like it more. I've found some good friends here but it seems CM is too much of a meat market where you have to meet strict criteria to be desireable. I'll still come here to talk to friends and such but won't spend as much time here. The reason for placing a profle here was to make friends and meet people, share ideas and hopefully find someone who would enjoy having an extended family with us that would include the lifestyle. While I hope that may happen I've decided that going out and meeting people in the poly and BDSM community is much more likely to achieve that goal than on-line sites. |
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Cris came home yesterday from the hospital and is doing well. I'll try and contact everyone as soon as I have time! One of my daughters who lives with us just got her nurses assitant certificate and is helping Cris and I. It's good to be a daddy! |
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Cris came through the surgery with flying colors! No cancer either! |
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It's strange how things work out. After looking for all this time for a sister for Cris, so she won't be alone if some thing happens to me, she has to go for surgery for possible cancer next week! |
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I forgot to add the reason why we're looking for another sub or switch! In case some thing happens to me I don't want Cris left along. My family is very active through their 80's but I love my motorcycles and who knows what could happen? I haven't any problem looking for a sister for her but won't look for another male.
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Cris doesn't want to be a Domme to any one. She is a spirted sub and my baby girl. I'm on here to find a sister for her, as she's very shy. She has my ok to seek other males if she would like to but she hasn't tried. We are looking for someone to become a loved member of our family not someone to abuse. In researching BDSM and exploring it's lifestyle I've found that as far as I can be pinnned down , I tend to be a daddydom. A female switch might be right also if it's only on the female side. |
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We went to the local Dungeon in Tucson last night and attended their new member orientation and a discussion group about the spirtitual side of D/S. It wandered as such do but the interesting part for me was that all the Doms/Dommes there agreed that they were looking to raise their subs and slaves self awareness and self esteem. It made me feel better with my choice to admit my Dom and Master side. My sadistic side doesn't require much pain giving unless wanted and my desire to humiliate dosesn't need to go to extremes. Another agreed upon discussion item was that we Master/Dom types also seek to make ourselves better to honor our subs. After raising 10 childern I know how hard that is but also how worth while it is too! |
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Turns out Cris is into BDSM more than she said! Just doesn't want it 24/7 herself. We're talking to some people finally who are looking to join a mixed vanilla/BDSM and can't wait to meet them in person! It's nice to meet people who know what poly-fi and line marriage is! |
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Well I updated my profile again. After talking to friends I've been assured that we are dominates, just not to the hard core. The idea of having a mixed BDSM and vanilla poly family just doesn't appeal to some people and that's ok! If we were all the same it would be boring. |
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We're on poly match sites along with CM, so our time is split between different sites. Our poly sites have BDSM also and do seem to be less demanding than many here. Poly sites seem to have the ability to combine people who maybe vanilla or mildly into BDSM with others who are much more into the lifestyle into one family. Our desire is to have us all into one bed and cuddle. We like touchy and feeling relationships. If you like the same we might be for you.
I am a very open person, much more so than my wife will initially be. My belief is that it's necessary to establish a lasting relationship. While I enjoy writing to people I also never learned to type so it takes me a long time to do so. Initially on CM I tried to not follow the form letter format and still do but I've learned that many people here demand non form letters or long messages and then don't bother writing back. I'm more comfortable with a short message and reply initially just to see if we're intersted in communicating more or not. So if you read our profile and might be interested please feel free to contact us. Our computer doesn't seem to work well for chatting, it freezes up and the chat feature here doesn't work at all. So I'm not ignoring you it just won't do it. |
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After talking with others and together it seems thar we both have dominate tendencies. We don't seem to have any problems getting along, just the occasional run in when one of us trys to push the envolope too much. If anyone is viewing our profile and feels comfortable with us, please contact us. I've gotten tired of writing the long messages many expect and then don't answer. As I don't type, yes four years of college and I can't type!, I've found it a waste of my time. |
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I do a lot of profile viewing! Since Cris is content to let me find other/others to join our family I'm always looking. If Cris meets another man she's interested in she'll let me know so we can both vet him. So many of the women here are much younger than we are and while we're not picky on age, what man wouldn't like to have a younger woman?, we are more concerned about long term relations and compatibility. I try to not contact a lot of people while we're talking to someone if you're wondering why I don't contact you. We don't choose people to contact by age, physical looks or race. We tend to be very liberal and really aren't looking for social conservatives who want to push their beliefs on us. I changed my dominate choice to switch because I'm not a total dom and don't want to be considered that. I just hate people trying to dominate me. I don't mind playing the dom if you like to have me do it, I just don't want to end up bored with the behavior being a constant. I enjoy cuddling too much! |
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I've been reminded to let people know that I have Fibromyalgia and some times when I'm into the fibro fog that I have a tendency to not explain myself well and can be easily misunderstude. My friends understand the problem and will Point out to me when it starts occuring so I can slow down and think before saying some thing. Since most of the initial correspondance on here is always by email please understand. |
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Things have been hectic for months now but seem to be calming down a bit now! One of my sons and his family finally moved back into town this weekend and now it's just working around here cleaning up and fixing things up. Cris isn't submissive for sure! Though she says that's because she doesn't get disciplined enough! No one else agrees with her though. Maybe she is a closet Domme or switch? Makes things interesting as I'm not submissive at all!
We've been busy since getting active in the SCA and having our Wicca 101 classes here too. I seem to be drawn more and more into becoming Asatru rather than Wiccan, even though I'm in training to become a High Priest. I'm begining to think that Wicca is too female dominated for me.
I think I'm too cabin bound and need to hit the road on my motorcycle again for a while! |
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We're still looking for poly Pagans to join our family but don't seem to have too much luck here. We're still here because we've met some good people here along with some flakes. We're not into extremes and I doubt we ever will be. It would be nice to meet some others who are motorcycle addicts too! Pagan and poly would be the frosting on the cake! I'm having much better luck on motorcycle dating sites though. They seem to be more open minded, at least some! BDSM mates would be something I'd enjoy but I can live without it!
Boy! I've found some pretty wicked ladies here! Why would I want to waste my time on verbally abusive women? I had an ex like that and would still be with her if that was what I was looking for! It's one thing to do it in role playing but not worth the time to have to meet some woman who may not show any chemistry with me. I'm begining to think that looking at any submissives or slaves is a waste of time! I'm not interested in having to be a dominate 2/7 and the attitude of slaves and submissives who won't list their interests is getting old. The attitude that they'll do whatever I tell them to do even if they don't like it is dumb. I have 6 daughters and have been married three times! Who are they kidding but themselves. Women have a way of making your life miserable if you make them do things they don't want to do! I want long term relationships not just casual sex and constantly going through strange women. |
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Not too much going on at the moment. I had high hopes about someone but I'm afraid that I may not be cut out to be a slave master. Since I came to this site because it's poly friendly and that is what we are looking for it's quite alright! |
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I'm getting my equipment ready for the yearly Ren Faire in the Phoenix area. Swords, leather gear and clothes. if I'm not keeping up you'll know why! The SCA has it's Estrella Wars in Febuary also and I'd like to finally attend one! Any one going to either one? |
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I'm still trying to learn and a friend of ours is on Collar Me. She's going to go with me and/or Cris to the local BDSM group in Tucson so I can find out more about it. I've noticed that most switches, subs and slaves demand experience so it seems that it would be a good place to learn. Our poly discussion group in Tucson has members that go there.
So far I'm trying to figure if a 24/7 slave is just supposed to sit at home and not add to the family income. I don't want someone who isn't going to contribute to the household.
Our requirements are that the person we add to the family must be Wiccan or willing to learn, must like riding motorcycles (either as a passenger or rider), reads, can hold a decent conversation, is a liberal politically, doesn't mind getting dirty helping with the property, has a strong desire for family, and likes to do and learn new things. |
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I'm new to this but am hoping to meet others to learn from. We want to add people to our family but not as slaves. Cris can't stand being addressed in the third person! We would really like to have other family members to join us in Circle. I just saw the Gorean Bikers chat room and have to check it out! I've read all the books and we're both addicted to motorcycles! |
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