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secretpain02 - Male Dominant, Apopka Florida | BDSM Profile on Collarspace

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About secretpain02

My name is Aj. Yes, really. And I am.... older! (woman screams in the distance - animals stampede through the brush) I would put a pic up but most wouldn't believe it was really me and recent, so why bother? I will say that I am in a class right now populated primarily by those 30 or less and they nearly all thought I was in their generation or just barely out of it. I have long hair.... several ear piercings.... very few age lines and only slightly more gray hairs which are mostly unseen or disguised by the blonde ones.... I am not over weight but neither am I muscular and my eyes, which used to be bright blue before being injured are a steel blue. I am a european mix, if that helps. You know, English - Welsh - Danish with a couple of Native Americans somewhere several generations back. On my mother's side I am fourth generation American and on my father's side nearly to the Mayflower. Scary.... huh? Lol Lets just say I wouldn't win a beauty contest but i wouldn't be eliminated right off either. Thank God I am a genuine person and can make people laugh! Lol

I will state right from the start, I am not anyone's "typical" anything. Many people try to put others "in a box" in order for them to find some sort of comfort level, relationally. In my case it just won't work most of the time, not that it stops anyone from making that mistake.... some repeatedly.... I just am not one that's easy to define. (dodecahedron in a trapizoidal hole, as it were. Lol) It's up to you if you're going to try it or not. But it will save you time and aggravation if you just don't try. My personality type is less than 5% of the population and fewer still are male. Given the volume of people who "think they know me" and are wrong, I have learned to hate blind assumptions being made about me. I find it incredibly insecure. Hence, I also try not to make them. Be warned though, I am both intuitive and have a descent esper rating so I may be fooled some of the time.... but not often or for long. So.... nutshell.... I am an enigma. I've been that all my life. I am good with that.... prefer it actually. You know.... innocent face but 11 piercings in each ear.... that kind of thing. So please, there should be at least a modicum of respect and courtesy shown should I contact you, as I also give when contacted or contacting. It is okay to be a little grown up here people. (I know! Who'd have thought that! Lol)

I like people and enjoy getting to know them. Really! So that in mind, just because I write you doesn’t mean I am seeking to collar you, change your orientation / preference, or debate you. Like the man said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. So a talk can just be a talk. Confusingly, this is a large issue in the Domme, Lesbian and "combos of same" areas here. I still haven't figured THAT out. In the vanilla world I don't usually have this problem as I have several friends who are lesbians. (Pretty sure my wife is one, or nearly so, but she hasn't come to the point of accepting that conclusion yet.... and I am not the only one who says it. Lol)

So what do I seek or hope for from here? I am here for conversation, for making acquaintances with those of like mindset and yes, in some cases to see if there is an opportunity for service to me. (Notice for the record that I am still breathing continuously. Lol) Assuredly, if service to me is why I wrote you will know it pretty quickly. Otherwise it is NOT the case.... unless YOU steer things that way. (Insert your favorite segue here because I couldn't think of a good one.)

Answer to the common BIG QUESTION: Obviously from the previous, I am married. (And this is where most of you seeking a Dom/Master/Daddy will stop reading.) My wife is a submissive/slave (with high probability for being Domme/Switch when it comes to women) but she is not currently, or likely to ever be, MY submissive. She has been briefly in the past, but she can't seem to keep her brain wrapped around the concept of being both my wife AND sub/slave. So, once again she is "not collared by me." Plus, like I said, a bunch of us, including HER family, are pretty sure she's a lesbian so I didn't have good odds. Lol She still gets excited when I am being Dom to another, and even to her sometimes.... as long as she hasn't time to think about it.... and if she is really horny. Lol But since she cannot come to terms with her confusions, I explore possibilities of being Dom to another and with her blessings.... potentially her participation under the proper conditions. (Notice again.... I am breathing....) She isn't "seeking anything" herself right now, choosing instead to concentrate on other life issues. (And I said that with a straight face! DAMN I am good! Lol) I am pretty sure her desires flip from women to BBC and back.... probably even occuring simultaneously at times.... Either way, I am not the flavor she wants. Honestly, it has been this way long enough I do not care anymore. I am me, and she is she, and narry the twain shall cross, as it were.

We have agreed on two main things in this: One, should she decide she wishes to be collared by another (my expectation given the circumstances.... and most likely either a Domme or a BBC Dom.... the secret I am not supposed to know.... shhhhh.) she is expected to give 110% to it and I will not interfere with his/her activities or discipline of her, provided they do not involve me, interfer with the operations of this household or impact its other family members negatively. (ie: "I was ordered to have sex with you tonight" will never lead to her and I having sex. Nor will things like "I have been ordered to call out sick to work and be in service all day." Homey don't play that! (Sorry.... 90's TV flashback....) Not unless there is monetary compensation equal to or exceeding the loss in pay or loss of job, it ain't happening. Not on MY watch.) Two, should I find one who wishes to be collared by me, and I so do, (more me breathing.... just saying....) any change of my wife's mind as to being collared by me will NOT be cause to exclude, dismiss or otherwise remove my submissive/slave/daughter/pet/alien cyborg/to-be-announced, and a discussion will have to be had to determine how/if wife will be participating with HER. (I cannot believe I wrote that with a straight face! Lol)

Sidebar: Yes Virginia, males are hereby officially removed from my consideration for a collar by me. No offense.

My preference for one collared by me is live-in. In a perfect world.... which this ain't. (Pause for the tune to float through our minds..... Ok, all done) But if it was, understand, I'm not a fool and I am fully aware that many steps must be taken for one to even reach that level of service. Again.... not being a fool.... I also know what the odds are of finding someone at all, preferences not withstanding. Again, perfect world thing.... (Tune again? Nope... continuing....) I have some minimum standards which make finding someone even MORE unlikely. For example, I require at least average intelligence. Most likely, if you've made it this far AND understand it you probably fit the category. But, despite my past relationships as evidence to the contrary, I am not one for trying to make a silk purse of a sow's ear. Been there - can't say done that because I don't feel I quite made it, not that it was from lack of trying on my part. I also do not enjoy "casting pearls" knowing full well they will simply bounce off the adjacent forehead. (Although in thinking about it the idea does sound like it could be fun. Lol)

Please note, I do not lord "intelligence" over anyone nor do I discriminate against any who are not blessed with a better than average frontal lobe. Many times those whose cognitive skills are not readily apparent are blessed with more tactile abilities. ie: The mechanic who fixes your car can be a stellar mechanic and have the vocabulary of a secondary school student. And I surely would not infer that said mechanic was not worth my time in getting to know nor deserving of my respect. As I said, I don't discriminate. I enjoy people of widely diverse backgrounds and abilities. But in my house I will not over simplify, restrict myself to words which are less than my abilities or avoid speaking of things I find interesting no matter how difficult to understand or boring it might seem to one in service to me. Well.... not more than I do already anyway. Kidding.... Lighten up people! Lol

So to be in service to me is also to expect that your education will be important either in an ongoing effort to complete it, to begin it or to exercise it. Am I saying I am super smart? Nope! Glad of it too. It's a fine line between genius and insanity and I have always been glad I am not one of those who make frequent trips back and forth across that line! (I went once, ran like hell and never turned back.... Lol) All I am saying is that, if I don't think one has the ability to understand, or gain understanding, I am probably not going to be interested in collaring her. But I have no problem being her acquaintance.... a friend even.

**INTERMISSION** (Smoke-em if you got-em! Lol)

Welcome back! Where was I.... oh yeah! Another point of preference is forms of service. If I decide that your task for the week is to paint and you will be using a tooth brush wearing strung bananas and learning to recite some of Robert Frost's finest that damn well better be your focus for that week and best efforts supplied to do so. Of course that sounds ridiculous. Hmmm.... Nope, yeah.... ridiculous.... The point is that, WHATEVER I require may have absolutely NOTHING to do with sex (insert horrified shrieks here) and has a purpose which does not require you to understand it before following said instructions. (insert angst here) So if this is all a big sex or money game for you (insert resentment here) then we will not get along in a D/s construct. (And now most who took the time to try and read all this will be done.)

So.... live-in.... I prefer at least a form of TPE. I am NOT looking for a roommate! The level beyond that is according to the individual. I can take it from fairly vanilla all the way to the cage. And at some point fairly early into it I will probably want you bred, but that is another discussion. You should expect that I will take care of my things. If a sub wishes caged animal status don't expect I will be providing animal food instead of healthy human food. If a sub is a masochist I am more than capable of providing the sadism. But expect that after your pain I will be caring for your injuries. If a sub wishes chained secret slavery it can be done but expect the bed you lie upon to be adequate for the protection of your health and bathing will not be optional. If you have an emotional crisis do not expect me to lock you in a closet and hope for the best. I prefer a sub whose mindset is one of expectation of multiple experiences so that if I decide that you will spend the week chained instead of sleeping in comfort there is no freak out or dissention. Well, not after the first time anyway. Lol That being said, I am not so close minded that I will not consider other options. (And this is where, should they be still reading, those who want total abuse, being treated like sub-human, etc. will stop reading. Toodles! Thanks for getting this far! Lol) You will note an absence of much humor here. Besides being poor material for it, it is something I take fairly seriously. I am tired of reading about people putting life on the line and saying it is what they need. BULLSHIT! Get lobotomised then if you can't handle real life. Don't pretend that what you seek is ok anymore than it is ok to be doing it to you. I have a more than adequate imagination and were my pocket much deeper and my ethics much shallower I could take any severe BME masochist and create a minature animal physically and mentally. What would be the damned point? It bothers me I know this shit let alone the thought of being someone who would enjoy doing it. Get some help is all I am saying. Moving on....

So, now that I have sounded like an egocentric ass, let me put you at ease. I have a highly developed sense of humor. ("What?" you ask in surprise. Hey, it might have been missed so far.... Lol) Ok, its probably over developed for some. But anyone who looks to get to know me best be prepared for it. I enjoy a wide range of movie genres and like to quote from them at appropriate times or situations.... usually appropriate anyway. I also like talking. I know! Clearly, I like it quite a bit. But I also enjoy just sitting, not saying a word, and listening. I am patient far beyond most and try always to be understanding. Reasons for mistakes don't bother me. Lame excuses do. It is easy to tell the difference. One is supported by effort and the other is not. I know where the lines are that shouldn't be pushed and I will give enough rope to see if my sub stops or if I have to snatch them back in line. (Which is unpleasant for them, BTW.) I will build up self esteem in my sub but be prepared to be humiliated should I feel it needed. I will not take by force what should be given to me freely and will punish whenever necessary and do so without remorse. Hmmmm still sounds a little ass-like doesn’t it? Lol I admit it. I can be an ass. But I am more likely to make someone laugh than cry, unless it's not going well in the "dragon vs. tiger" department. Then.... well, I'm too responsible to lose too much control. But I'm probably going to be a little worry-some for whatever slave I might have during those times. But, it counter-balances so its good.

I think that should be enough, don't you? I mean, geez! Lol Anything else can be learned through reading my journal and the disappearing art of "communication through conversation." (insert screams here) Yep. I expect YOU to talk... with ME... in actual, honest, prolonged conversation! (insert fainting here... go ahead... I'll wait) If you made it this far and don’t feel tired or annoyed then please, take it one step further! Diehards like you are infrequent and I’d be happy to talk to you! Lol (Most don't have the guts so if you don't then you are in the majority, if that is a comfort.)

Oh, I do anticipate the receipt of some messages from “doms” trying to tell me how “not” one I am, and/or subs telling me what a jerk I am. Big whoop. The world is full of children in adult bodies and to expect it to be uncharacteristically absent here would be naive. Just know, I don’t generally waste my time on those messages. (But if you need to send them to get your dick stiff/juices flowing then go ahead. Not like anything said in those messages will be taken for more than a grain of salt. Ok.... two grains.... but not more! Lol)

So, dear submissive/slave.... got the courage to try to get to know me?

Never mind.Silence, just as a picture, can be worth a thousand words.... and I read that many in a very few minutes.

I had my vent.
The task, complete.
And now, delete.
Selah

I know... been pretty quiet. I have had a lot going on. This though.... I am seeing more of this crap and I HAD to say something.

"I love when a man who is controlling has rough sex with me in a controlling way cause hes in control."

Nah.... never know SHE is a pothead.... or worse.... (Insert eye roll here) The selection pool is thinning methinks....

Just when you think you have seen everything.... A profile on CM using an Elvis Presly photo. Now that will mess with your head at 6am. Lol

I am going to say this again, and not with the expectation it will be anymore effective than the previous times. If you are a submissive or slave, female and remotely an option and I have viewed your full profile I am viewing in order for you to look my profile over and drop me a note. I get tired of doing nearly all the writing and I am back to the point of you write first. It is sad really. No politeness anymore.... at least not here. My sent list is always twice or more as long as my received list. It shouldnt be that hard to just say hello or thanks. So, tag.... you are it! It does not even have to be a lengthy note. I guess I will see who is serious and has courage enough and who simply is here for kicks.

 

Update! It has been shared that my profile is too much and I shouldnt expect anyone to read it and then write me. Wouldnt it be easier for all for me to just write? Why dont I write back and tell what I want to do to her? My response was.... Wow, that wont take long. Since you dont have the desire or intellect to read my profile there isnt a thing in the world I want to do to you.... except hang a warning bouy around your neck to warn off intelligent species. Well, thats what I felt like sharing. But since I didnt think she would get it I saw no reason to waste the time. Intelligent folks understand. So it seemed like something to post here instead that would be found as humerous to many and maybe serve as food for thought to the others.

 

(If someone needs to explain to you who is which, just use the last one.)

Word to the wise for fellow Doms/Dommes:

You may have noted the increase of those who profess their need for abuse and humiliation and are looking for messages in such a vein. Some of these are bogus seeking email addresses or sending you to a pay site. We all know that. But there are those which are bogus and being used to cyber bully innocent people. Now some here will not care and I am not warning them. They are not anymore real then those I mentioned seeking the abuse. But to those to whom it does matter be sure and get some kind of accurate verification before participating or you could be harming an innocent vanilla.

You will now return to your regularly scheduled program already in progress. Lol

Here is a question: Has it not occurred to many of these snot nosed kiddie subs that an older Doms interest may have nothing to do with sex? I mean, come on! The fact that they think "young is best" is amusing, bordering on the hysterical.

Let us just clear up something right now. Your brains will not even be done making all the required connections until you are 25 yrs old. The potential for you to grasp nuance in concepts or sociologic interactions is marginal at best (with exceptions duly noted) and is painfully obvious in your conviction that Dominance = sex. Most older Doms (and I do mean real ones) dont want to fuck you as much as use you to clean up their house or provide entertainment.... perhaps to massage their backs after a day of nose to the grindstone making the money to care for your lazy ass. (exceptions again duly noted)

The challenge for a Dom is not simply to bed a sub. Any partially pretty face or well spent indulgence in alcohol can do that with most >25 subs and many over. Even in breeding scenarios the consideration is given to the choice of penis or hose. I understand that the dream is to find a Dom who is also a mate. But what is assumed by them chaps my ass! Honestly! Knowledge of self and another will nearly always trump youth. Listen, I remember being 18... 20... 22... and I had friends, acquaintances and coworkers from 15 to 65 and I ALWAYS learned more from the older ones. That doesnt mean I wanted a mate 30 yrs older than me. So, take a breath.... calm those fears and gag reflexes.... and stop ascribing to ALL DOMS the childish concepts of sex-is-all and listen for a change. You may discover that you can find wisdom, peace and acceptance which will suddenly provide an eye-in-the-storm for you.... a place that is of immeasurable value when facing what seems like monstrous decisions for you. And who knows.... you may discover that the prince or princess you are looking for isnt wearing the newest armor and is much more skilled at using their weapons, of which the mind is the most powerful.

And for those of you with a Daddy fetish.... bring that ass over here cause Daddy has a surprise for you! Lmao!

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I followed a profile link on here to a local ad site. Looked at the job section.... browsed around.... miss clicked and there it was.... ad after ad with pics I see on profiles on this site over and over again. I mean some you would SWEAR were legit! I am not stupid. I know there are a bunch of scammers here. But DAMN I did not realize just HOW MANY of them there are! Wow. Honestly, it is no wonder so many messages go unanswerd or messages from the inbox make no sense. It amazes me we here can have a conversation with a real person at all. Great.... now I am sad.... and no slave to cheer me up. Wait a sec.... there is one! And she LOVES walks on the beach........

Cleaned up my profile a little. It is still long. But, I had the time and thought, what the hell! Lol

Excerpted from a response I recently wrote. It seemed to me to do a pretty good job getting a point across without being my usual 6 paragraphs in length so I put it here. Lol Italics are add-ins from the original.

 

A lot goes on in the vanilla for me that changes my schedule and unless I am feeling wide awake during the late/early hours I manage to get on here I most often opt out of writing. Should you write me, you have now been forewarned. Lol As to the format of my profile, I figure that the easiest way to get an idea of who I am is to just try to be real on the profile regardless of the length, hence my choice for openness. Sadly, I can get a tad verbose and that ended up reflected on the profile as well. Lol  My style of dominance is atypical and it seems not often understood or well received. But at least that is clear from the outset. Lol 

I do not see this lifestyle as being one of treating an adult as a child, the obvious exception being age play situations. Nor do I tend to want to risk permanent mental or physical damage to one serving me. What seems most difficult for others to understand is that it is not because I cannot do it, but rather because I can and far too easily. I do not want to be one who must destroy to gain service. Now I know there are some who wish that to be done to them with some to the exclusion of all else. But my question to them has always been one of why. How can it possibly be service given if it must require the destruction of self to get it? I know.... there are those rare exceptions where weakness has caused the development of harmful or even dangerous personality traits which they want purged. But for me, that does not require the destruction of self but rather the removal of that which caused the weakness and then the healing of self. It can be a complicated process and yes, during those times it is often helpful to walk close to the edge as it were. But taking the plunge into the abyss of human destruction is not what this is about even in the S/m aspects. Sorry.... I will get off the soapbox now. Lol 

I guess it is the silence I find most distressing.... annoying.... that king of thing. I can write people or post something thought provoking and hear nothing. I have actually pulled up the full profile of a few people everyday for a week just to see if I would get some kind of response. Nothing. Lol So it is in the lack of conversation that I have assessed my popularity here and found myself not well received. (Not that I am changing anytime soon. Lol)

Modified from a message I replied to regarding my profile:

I never have been one who puts much stock into what others think about who I am, though I do try to be unobtrusive about it. (Less so here.) But I am finding my willingness to do so (in the vanilla world) wanning. I guess the primary relationship that it affects is my marriage. But I have finally come to the conclusion that trying to limit exposure to aspects of my personality that, while known, she finds unappealing has not profited the relationship nor encouraged reciprocal actions. Therefore there is little loss to my discontinuing the practice. Logically, and simultaneously emotionally, the same is likely true of lesser important relationships and thus the same mindset should apply. That is probably not going to make me any more popular than I already am. Go figure.

New pic. (last) I took it. One more glimpse to me. Lol

Things on my mind today.

Why is it Dominants who have to message submissives?

Why are all the interesting people screwed up or age phobic? (Its just conversation people, not a marriage proposal!)

Why do people do dumb stuff like take pictures in their bathroom? Do they not see the filth when they take the pictures? And if so, why do they think anyone else wants to see it? "I long to be a slave focused on domestic duties and pleasing.... etc." Looks like you got mad cleaning skills based on your pics there babe. And really, if you are going to post pics of your T-A-P on the internet would it really be too hard to have someone you know, or even do not know, TAKE the pics directly so we can skip the mirror and nasty bath thing?

And why (yes I know you are not supposed to start a sentence with "and." Shut up.) do people pick internet images that do not even look the same and try to pass them off as themselves? Do they really think I want to see pussy so bad that I will not notice a 20 year difference in the face, the 30 pounds less of body (most noticed in the 36C down to 32A) or the "disappearing mole trick?"

Why are there so many "slaves" looking to serve based on your location or how many square feet you live in, if you travel and if they will be too, what is their spending allowance.... that is right.... spending allowance.... for a "slave".... who "lives to serve her Master," or if they will have all their days planned for them 100%. (The truth is out! M/s is really adult day-care!! *screams and fainting echo through the air*)

Where is it in the M/s rule book that says most Masters pimp or pass their slaves, and since when is it expected as routine? No joke. they want to know right off the bat how many times a month they will be shared. Really?? (Why yes in-dee-dee! I prefer to share MY slave almost nightly 'cause I LIKE a wallowed out pussy at 25, tits that have been stretched around so much that deflated helium balloons look fuller AND having to pay the medical bills for fixin' her when some wannabee dipshit does body damage.) I think they have this site confused with www*sadosexaholics*com "I lik-ed whorin' and being eet up or knuked a'rund so much I do my whorin' fur FREE now! Check my page!" Do they not think before they post/message that crap?

Since when did eating cereal without the milk become an issue and WHY?

Damn I have a long profile! I just cannot decide what to cut. Lol

Ok. I know there are several who have issue with my profile. Most of the time it merely gets a "so?" type of response from me. But in the area of photo I can see it some. The lion relief, besides being cool, is a resemblence to me. If the snout is removed and the width narrowed down it is a fair comparison to me. I know. I'm not stupid. I know that does not really relate much. But for me the eyes of people are telling, and that was part of my reason for selecting that pic. It very nearly has my eyes. I believe that the artist blended human and lion features intentionally when he created it.

The fact that it is a lion is also a glimpse into my personality, as are the other pics. And that is the reason they are there. Let's be honest here people. Personality is key, both yours and mine and that relation. If you are a superficial person and looks are all that is important to you then you will not waste time on my profile at all since you cannot "see" me. And that is what I planned for. Now, if however, you are concerned with intelligence (my misspelled words aside Lol) or humor and that is more important than a beautiful face or body (not that mine is bad.... work with me people) then more important than my face is something which conveys my personality. And if there is any connection to the right side of your brain you can get some indicators from the images I selected. And that is also as I planned.

Now, if I get to the point in conversation with you that I feel it will not be a problem, I am willing to send a photo of myself. I had several here before. I figure that if it gets to that point I can tailor the image to fit the verification preferences of whomever I am conversing with.

Does that help loosen the wedgie? I hope so. It is as far as I am willing to go with it. 

Ok, I know lots of people here use images not of themselves. And that is fine as long as it is a reasonable facsimilie of themselves. But honestly people, a just-after-high-school picture of Madonna?? Seriously, if that is close to someone's real appearance by all means FUDGE a little! I hope that is not the case though and some bot, collector or scammer just made a poor selection. Speaking of which, where have all the real people gone? I am seeing a ton of "one pic - no info" profiles here and a LOT less real people. I believe that this site was sold or something and that is why the password verification crap happened, but did we really lose THAT many people?

Is it just me or has the profile format here seemed to take an ugly turn towards that of resume' believability? Honestly, the volume of buzz words starting to appear here is disheartening. What's next? Having one's "history" and "references" posted on here also? Are we going to start getting "cover letters" instead of conversation? Relax people and drop the pretence! It's a social site, not a job hunt, so normal speech is the preferred format for communication! On the bright side, if the trend continues there might be an opportunity for some to make money writing profiles for people. Can that be called a bright side?

I recently wrote someone about trying to find outward expressions of her decision to be a submissive or, better in her perception, a slave. I gave my suggestions but along the way I ended up talking about what I thought she was really seeking. I do not think my message went over too well! (Not answered.... Lol) But, since I see so many who need to know and I seemed to have written it fairly well (without my usual verbose redundancies) I thought I would post the pertinent excerpt into my journal. It did not send correctly in the message so I had to make a few corrections and insert the missing bits but, what the hell, not the same as going at it from scratch so I am good! Lol
>For me a simple outward "proof" of commitment to service is not the best proof. It is your mindset of that serving you would need to work on and so be required to demonstrate if I were to be your Master. I know that sounds pretty esoteric. Hell, I had to reread it to make sure it was the message I am trying to convey. For many subs they cannot "get into that mind" unless they are treated extremely. For some it comes nearly to abuse. As far as I am concerned, much of what ends up happening to them qualifies as abusive many times over. Finding this mindset should not require such methods. Those actions are but outside expressions/desires depending on the persons involved and other needs they have. Embracing the sub/slave mindset DOES require that the one you are being vulnerable to be someone you can picture in your mind AND heart as being both worthy and able to have the Masters rights and ownership. It also takes reordering your priorities, examining your perceptions and gaining an honest knowledge of self - both strengths and weaknesses. You see, it is hard to let go of our defenses when we feel we might loose our "self," unless it is running from "self" we are trying to accomplish of course. (Always bad BTW) It is also just as hard if you cannot trust that the one you seek to submit to maintains your needs as priorities. Because of lack in these three key areas LOTS of submissives and even more slaves never really "get there" so they quit or endlessly change names in a cycle of rejection "from" someone as well as "of" someone. Maybe, if they had chosen the right person, it might have been different. But I have talked to several who just were not willing to make any helpful internal changes. Some call it topping from the bottom, hell there are a lot of catch phrases for it but it is all the same. What you have to come to is the place where you realize that your current "self" is not complete and you are not trying to loose that which you have, but discover the missing parts.<
>I have told others, anyone could be the Master of a person void of personality and opinion. There is no purpose or skill required for that. Neither is it what I seek. I want to know what has meaning to my slave and why. I want to know there is an intelligent opinion and where it stems from. I want to have the confidence that RESPECTFUL sharing of thoughts and concerns can occur. I have to be confident that there is someone "in there" to follow instructions and adjust as needed. But after all is said and done, my final word is final and the desire of my slave is to obey once that final word has been given. I need to know that my slave is ever conscious of my needs, and the needs of her heart are to MEET those needs -  that the desire is to please me in all that she does. I do not want to micro-manage an idiot. If I wanted a dog to kick around I would just get a damned dog. At least it would not back talk. Am I making sense? It is in finding the mindset of obedience and pleasing that the identity you feel and seek will find its completion. I know that leaves a lot of open territory. But those other things are things which are built upon the fundamental needs, the foundation of the slave identity as it were. I think if you can begin to visualize yourself in that role you can begin to identify with it. Then it will begin to change you and lead you to the whole person you are seeking. There is a lot of twaddle out there; a lot of "role play" bullshit. But there is a fair amount of real and honest insights from other subs/slaves which can help. Ultimately though, you have to find it and embrace it in yourself and then it will begin to manifest to others, couched in intelligence and common sense would be best of course.<

I do not know if I have just been unfortunate or not but the preponderance of women whose eyes are WAY too far apart from each other is disturbing! It makes me want to squeeze their heads to see if they can be shoved back together! Was there a major contaminant 20 years ago I missed hearing about? Maybe it is connected to mercury in vaccinations as is the tripling of Autism. I do not know, but MAN it is getting creepy!

Ok..... I feel better now..... provided I can exit here without seeing any more.....

Curious Question: Any who wish to answer.

I tried to simply message to find my answer. But given the most recent deletion - unread of course, shout out to cheryl yall - I have decided to abandon messages and post it here. Can someone explain why there has been a very sudden increase in the number of full profile views of MY profile by Dommes? Bi, straight, lesbian.... all different save they are Dommes. I went from an average (sadly enough) of about one viewer a week to a dozen or more in the last 3 days and 80 percent of them Dommes. My natural state of curiosity has me wondering why/how. It is not that I mind. I do not care who looks. The more the merrier. It just makes me wonder. You know, like when Obama came here to see one of the final flights of a shuttle into space when he did little to prevent it from being one of the final flights. It makes one go, HUH? Well, bad example. He came to enjoy the spectacular view of people suffering. Not hard to figure out. Lol So anyway, if you know I would appreciate the info. It kills me that a Domme will not read the mail of a Dom resulting in my having to post this here. But if one wrote me and I deleted it..... Battle stations! Man the canons! Sheilds up Mr. Sulu! Lol So if you have an idea why there is such a double standard of respect I would love to hear that also. If a Dom/Domme writes me, I am not threatened by it nor am I going to disrespect, unless the message is itself disrespectful. I rather see it as professional courtesy. Please note; I have kept a civil tongue. Given my deep and abiding love of sarcasm, this was no easy feat! Lol

I read profiles. I mean literally read them. I try to determine what truth might be there and understand where they might be at, what they might need, who they might be. I read so much pain.... loneliness.... hatred.... in them and yet, like Mt St Helens a few years after it blew its literal top off, there are signs of life. I see wisdom, knowledge of self, the desire to be cared about even if in the context of suffering. Unfortunately for me, I sometimes try to communicate when I know there will be none forthcoming. The cosmic joke. I am one who seeks to know and learn from and about people; to communicate with people and NOT in a sexual or asumptive role, but am not on the list of flavors, interests or curiosities. I have tried to acertain why this is. My age? I did an experiment which proved that was an issue but not entirely. The fact I am married and she does not want me as her Dom? I did examine this as well. I got several "what kind of Dom cannot Dom his wife?!" comments which were easy to answer but not well received: The kind who honors his marriage vows, respects individual choice and does not want to go to jail for spousal abuse. The last one seemed to get ignored the most. Lol So what else? Several things which I have tested and not had a particularly significant negative result from. But recently I recalled some textbook counseling perspectives and I think I might have a bead on it. They do not really want to be known, understood or accepted. I represent what they wish for the least, and yet clearly are seeking in their D/s choices despite what their profiles say. I try to get this into subs/slaves heads; if there is not open honest and constant communication, their dream relationships will not happen or will not last. I think many know this which is why they want "to be broken and made to be nothing more than an animal." Come on! An idiot can do that with the right impact tool, breathing apparatas or chemical, and all you will EVER be capable of is drooling, shitting and being used/abused. The whole reason is because they do not want to face the effort or risks involved in relationships. I am sorry, that doesn't make you a sub or a slave. That just makes you scared. But, on the bright side, knowing these possibilities are all too common takes some of the sting out of the dozen or more resent unopened and unanswered messages I have sent. Of course.... maybe I am just too boring. Lol

My journal has offended some subs/slaves. Good to know. But perhaps before getting angry or offended, some personal thought should be put into WHY it offends. Just sayin....

It might be coming up on time to take another break from here. I am getting tired of always having to be the initiator of conversation. Honestly, it wears. Not really different in vanilla. Need advice? Call Aj! Moving? Call Aj! Wanna have an intelligent, humerous and varied conversation? Who the hell wants that! Not many it appears. Makes me wish that talking to drunks was a substitute for me but it just is not. This crap is just one more thing that makes me miss my Dad. I bugged him - he bugged me - but we could always talk and do it for hours. I have suffered the loss of such in friends as well. Far too many and for far too many years. "What about your wife?" Please. I am counselor, confidant and jester, not much more conversationally. I can meet perfect strangers and have them feeling comfortable, entertained and familiar in a very short time. My Father was the same. "He never met a stranger" was said by most who new him. It is true of me as well. Unfortunately it seems todays society doesn not want relationships which require personal effort. I am tired of always being the ball tosser and having the conversation be like dodgeball, only I am the only one throwing them. Maybe its just as simple as being tired. So incredibly tired. Or maybe I am just too unusual. Combo? Who knows. Who cares. I am going back to bed. Maybe it will seem alright later. Or maybe I will not even try for a while. Not like I am going to miss out on any conversations. I can get almost as much from a sock puppet or the neighbors dog. Too bad I am not so far gone that those are viable options. Lol Well, if given the choice I would prefer it not to be an option. So I guess I am not as bad off as it feels. Good news then! I am tired, frustrated and bored but not insane. Unless this post or trying to start conversations can be considered crazy in which case I might be a little. But still good news! Too bad no one wants to talk about that.

This goes out to all those submissives/slaves who have such things as "I will add stuff here later" or really any two sentence profile and your profile is older than two weeks. The only thing worse are the ones with nothing at all. Its lame. Its annoying. Why? I will skip the obvious issues of looks lazy, seems like you are stupid or you do not know what the hell you are doing on the site. I will admit I had nothing a time or two. My reason was frustration and I did not sign on for MONTHS so to find me was to be searching me out. You all do not have that reason. You sign on everyday. You look at your mail and just delete it or ignore it. Question: How the hell is anyone to know what you are looking for if you cannot take 15 damn minutes to put it on your profile?? And do NOT start with that stupid likes/dislikes list crap! It does NOT explain you worth a damn and is only seen on a full profile view. Don't want conversation? PUT IT ON THE PROFILE. Watch- I do not want to have friends or conversations. WHEW! Took ten whole seconds! Do not want men? Watch- Women only. WOW! Two whole seconds! Come on! If you do not want to write SOMETHING USEFUL on your profile then have the courtesy to answer every damned message you get! And get it straight, NO ONE who writes you can be blamed for anything they ask or write because YOU DID NOT PUT PARAMETERS ON THE PROFILE. If this concept is just too damned hard to understand then head on over to FB or Twitter where you can NOT have info and its NOT going to bug anyone. Your blank-ass profile here just slows everyone down. Head to the kiddie pool and let the grown ups alone.

We all read about those annoying fakes here. And I am sure we all have had far too many direct dealings with them. But one thing that bothers, me despite how truly annoying those people are, is how surprised everyone acts that it happens here. Why would here really be any different than the rest of the vanilla world? Lets see, there is that person that we pretend to like at work/school but in real life would love to see run over by a truck, there are those people we went to school with that we ran into and added to our FB account NOT because we like them but because it might help us with something or someone(or the less obvious because we thought they honestly wanted to keep in touch with us), or then there is that person we date because its better than being alone but we have NO intention on being with long term or faithfully.... its a long list.... may want to grab a snack....

On second thought, I think I have conveyed the idea, with the understanding we all have or could fall on both sides of those concepts. (Good call on the snack though.) The point I am making is simply this; I think that voicing aggravation about it is fine. But if there is the occurance of even one of the above type examples in your life, could we please just turn down the angst a bit? Honestly, its getting hard to tell the victims from the offenders because the first thing I think is, methinks they doth protest too much. And besides, its distracting me from going through my FB list and deleting those who cannot seem to bother with a simple "Hey man! How are you doing?"

I see this all too frequently, the sub/slave expressing their thoughts and declaring how obedient they will be (wait for it) "for the right Dom/Master." Most of the time one of two things is clear, at least to me. Either they have barely scratched the surface of learning what they need and feel they know without realizing the difference between feeling there is a need and knowing what that need is. Or, they are clearly blowing smoke and might as well just come out and say "for rent to the highest bidder" and be done with it. The first one sometimes makes my heart ache because those of us who have toiled learning who and what we are know full well the pain and aching inside this journey can cause. The second one is sometimes depressing because it's presence is somehow a reminder of how much of this lifestyle has been taken, turned and sold, and not even necessarily to the highest bidder. The truely sad part is that the first, in seeing the second, usually ends up worse for having come across it. And the second's presence makes it difficult for those who reach out a helping hand to the first to have that helping hand seen/heard and have it clasped in return. On a brighter side, given the ever increasing influx of the second one, those who enjoy extending the helping hand can soon easily find someone who will gladly clasp hands with them.... with us all.... or, at least the highest current bidder.

Check this out. You'll love it! A short time back I copied the info in my profile and put it on one from a similar site with my age shown differently. It was amazing the number of subs/slaves, and even the Doms, who were all of a sudden willing to talk! It didn't take long to be tired of it and delete the profile. I even had a CURRENT face pic on it! It was simultaneously one of the funniest and most annoying weeks in a long time! But I proved my point to me. I haven't changed. People's preconceived notions and perceptions changed and all because of a number.

On a side note, would someone from the 60's or 70's PLEASE explain to these younger ladies how hiphuggers are supposed to be worn?!? It's like watching a woman PLOD in high heels. You just want to walk up and snatch the damned shoes off them and tell them they can't have them back until they learn to wear them correctly! Mothers apparently got tooooooo damned busy to teach this stuff. But, the pants are not meant to be worn with anything that covers the belly. Belt-line at the longest. Ok, sometimes a flowing/tapered blouse/top.... but that's it! Leave the long spandex in the closet. I swear, if I see one more woman tucking.... (deep cleansing breath)

Sorry. For me it's like the wearing of leather garments. If you're going to wear it in public have the courage to do it with pride. Otherwise, just wear it at home or don't wear it. But certainly don't wear it and try to hide the fact.

"Willing to be used." "Want to be abused." "Want to be your slut." (rolling eyes) Does anyone else besides me have a hard time believing this anymore? There are those who genuinely need this. And somehow those with the most promise end up with the most irresponsible to get it. The rest, it usually turns out later, are merely looking for an excuse to have random sex partners while someone's watching their back, so to speak. “Used.” "A 24/7 slave." Really? Tell them that you want them to start at one end of your house and clean it like it's an operating room and, except for eating, short rests and bathroom duties, they are to keep at it until its done. An AMAZING thing happens! What they REALLY meant was.... Or tell them that they are to spend the day doing schoolwork with your children and you expect the children to have improved by the end of the day. WHOA! You'd think that they were asked to assassinate their closest friend. How about simply having them standing nearby all day tending to anything you need. OMG! Honestly, it is in this area of sincerity that the men subs outstrip the women, not that there isn't a similar issue there I am sure. (NOT interested guys.... but thanks for the thought.) And this gets me as well. If I am seeking a slave, which I am, I have things I take into account with age not a factor save for two things; I have years but I am not old. And, any 24/7 slave I take that kind of interest in I will be considering for breeding as well. Why? Because I can and because she can't? Partly true. But its more than that. So because of this issue slaves over a certain age are eliminated from such considerations. There is also practical issues.... accumulation of possessions, occupations.... blah, blah.... you get the idea. But I talk to all ages and its honestly happening across the board. It's all become like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey. The donkey won't often ever reach or receive that carrot anymore than all those who toss those phrases about really mean them. So why do it?? It's hunting for mountain goat in a swamp full of gators, and then, being mad at the gators for being there and being gators! Just be real with what you know and you can even leave the rest as "to be explored" if you want. But please, can we stop tossing about things we don't really mean? A 24/7 slave is just that. All the time and happy doing all the tasks, not just the sexual stuff. If you want to be just a sexual slave or pimped out only, then just say that. We are flooded with false advertising everyday from every side. Can't we who are of this lifestyle raise the bar and dare not to do it to each other? *sigh* Probably not. Can we at least take off the slave part or the 24/7 part? How about this…. Just rent a room, go to a bar, all far from home, ask somebody to spread the word you will do anyone who goes to your room and then circulate for a bit before going to it. If that doesn’t do the trick for you have one hang out and act all protective and do him twice for the favor. Better that then fooling others here as well as yourself. For those to whom this doesn’t apply, thank you.

OK. A few things to mention here.

Blonde DOES NOT = Hot.

Boney DOES NOT = h/w proportionate, slim or hot.

Losers DOES NOT = Those who don't give you money.

Ain't DOES NOT = A sign of intelligence, especially if you can't spell it correctly.

Seen DOES NOT = Scene, nor is it ever interchangable in any lifestyle.

 **sigh**

I could go on, but I think I'd just be spitting into the wind because;

Corrected DOES NOT = imparted intelligence or wisdom.

I was going to rant on something stupid like why the same people have +/-15 profiles on here. (Ex: How many 50something white bi fem subs over 5'-7" can there be in one area of the state, and why all without pics?) But I don't feel like it.

I tried to create something graphically the other day, my pic is what I came up with. Now I am left wondering if it's from me or something I "tuned in" again. Who the hell knows. I do know this, right now, I just don't feel like dancing.

Okay, can someone PLEASE tell me why anyone would post pics of themselves, ESPECIALLY NUDES, with pictures of their KIDS in the shot?? Honestly! At LEAST block or blur them out! With the ease at which our children can be victimized nowadays, does it really take a lot of smarts to avoid doing that kind of crap? Lets see, you've put your location on here, pics showing the general looks of where you live and pics of your kids. I've seen at least two times where the year is on the pic to make it easier. Can't we in this lifestyle be the example of safety instead of the definition of a stereotype?

Come on! For the love of Pete, would you read my damned mail?!? There is information there for you if you just reach over and get it. I can't help if you aren't listening. I'd tape your ass to a chair and make you listen if I could. No, seriously, I probably would. But I can't. It's NOT more of the rhetoric you've no doubt been getting. So just READ already!

I do believe my sarcastic writing style has proved difficult for some. (Insert shocked expression here) I feel so bad about that. Really. (looks everywhere avoiding eye contact) It's the idiotic or ridiculous that bring it out of me. Ok, I can't really back that up. But you can see how it would make it harder for me not to do it! Lol

I have reached the point of being used to seeing "Dommes" proclaiming how they don't have "time to waste" or how "valuable my time is" on virtually 60% of those profiles. Yada Yada. Now the "subs" are doing it. Is it supposed to be a gender thing? Are only the women tight on "available time" or something? And now the "subs" are demanding money for someone to to write them and expect a response! As if! Please! There are plenty of adult oriented sites whose sole purpose is the purveying of "personal time," so why the hell clobber up this one? Maybe there should be a seperate category for those here to make money at the expense of people's dreams and needs. At least then those willing to pay will not be bothered by sorting through those of us who seek legitimate connection, and those of us who know better than to pay a dime won't have to sort through the growing list of pay-for-time profiles. It would be win-win. Honestly, it's beginning to be tedious. At first it was simply humerous. Then it became annoying. Now.... 

And the pics..... at least use pics less obvious as being professional pics! If you don't want to use a face pic then make one that isn't. At least then there would be some originality and style. I don't have a face pic here. I made the pic I use. Not hard. If you can't do it there are those here who will do it for you for free. But, you may have to write to them. Damn! Almost a workable idea huh! Oh, and this stealing of pics kills me. Why the hell do that?? What's the point? What are the odds someone is really going to switch writing a particular name because the pics match. Are there really that many easily confused people here? Then there's the profile-confused. If you are going to change profiles at least use different pics or take down the others. Are there really that many people who won't realize that the same person using the "sub" profile also has a "domme" and "switch" profile with the same pics when they see them? 'Wow.... she looks just like this other person. What are the odds? But it HAS to be like a twin or something because one is a domme and one is a sub.' (rolling eyes) Wait.... that's right.... it's not the same person. Someone stole their pics. And for a small fee you can write to them and tell them about it. 

Rant complete. For now. Lol

Does anyone else find this statement amusing as well as pointless? "Don't add me to your favorites list." Honestly.... I can see the issue with the friends thing. But isn't the point of the favorites list so you don't have to write down names in order to check back, examine closer, keep updated on journal entries, look for consistancy before messaging? I've actually read stuff like "if you add me to your favorites list I won't look favorably on you" and similar. Who cares how you will look at them? Be flattered someone cares enough to want to go back and polite enough NOT to do the add friend thing! It almost makes me want to add these people just to illustrate the lunacy.... almost....

Administered pain, without purpose, is pointless. It violates the core of sadism and is abuse no different than beating a loved one because you had a bad day or too much to drink. Example: rimming and licking of dirty ass without having the maso cleaned after and on antibiotics. Sh*t is e-coli and deadly. Or how about severe canning without administration of antiinflamatories to prevent clot seperation? Or is loss of limb, brain function or death the purpose in that? If that administered pain is totally self serving and fails to serve a purpose other than itself then just abuse animals. At least they aren't sentient beings. But if there is REAL purose I applaude you. You are a rare comodity and your maso is indeed lucky.

I would love to view a day in the past... when being Dom wasn't just being an a-hole and a sub/slave knew the difference. I would also love to see the day that turned it to that mentality. I also wonder why subs/slaves/pets seem to feel it should be the Dom who writes them. And then, should they actually get an intelligent message from a Dom, they feel annoyed it was sent and not the least bit grateful. If there is gratitude its not enough to provide a similar response if there's any response at all. Brings into question both their authenticity and motivations. Don't you think?
Ok. This I simply do not understand. Perhaps someone can enlighten me. Why does hatred so often get accepted as Dominance or Sadism? I can understand needing to be used. I can understand needing to be treated as a slave or pet. I can understand the need for humiliation and pain. What I do not understand is why there are so many who provide such that is clearly hate driven? You have a slave and both want her whored out? Cool! Any reason why that has to involve unsafe practices? You have someone who is a pet? Great! Why must that require the pet to ingest food unsafe for humans? You have a masochist sub that likes abuse? Stellar! Why must this include forced nude on concrete in freezing temps? How many of these people even make sure their pets/slaves/subs do their taxes? It's the law. Doctor's visits? Meds for healing? The right foods? I read where a diabetic was withheld her insulin because the dom, for lack of a better word, didn't want to pay for it. The killer was, she was okay with it! Like the sacrifice of appendages, nerve function and heart health was "OK" compared with being beaten regularly. It's supposed to be both people, not either or! If you cane your sub you damn well better be prepared to treat the wounds! You whore out your slave you have the responsibility to make damn sure all are clean! You humiliate and abuse you best take the time to build them up as well! If that which serves has a mental health issue such as anorexia YOU must make sure it is treated. This mentality of non-responsibility and the acceptance of it is both frightening and disgusting. Dominance comes with responsibility and submission with respectability. Or has the baby not only been tossed out with the bath water, but stomped to death as well? 

"Deleted Unread"

Wow. Really? Guess that'll teach me to write someone who is so "hot sh*t" as you are. Lmao! I have found that "Deleted Unread" can usually be best translated as.... bet you thought I was going to do some dumb assed childish rant! Lol Why? Look at all the time I was saved! Lol But it is pretty damned funny when it's seen in the mailbox!

I do have pics of myself. But, I prefer face-to-face. If I decide it warrants a pic I can provide it. Be warned though. I'm not a super stud, but I ain't ugly either. Lol I also do not look my age. I spent my entire twenties having to prove my age with my ID. Oh yeah.... good times.... (rolling eyes) Lol

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