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Male Submissive, 22, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Male Dominant, 42
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Male Switch, 26, Lejeune, North Carolina
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About Thortok2000
Let's Get Started
Alright, so, let's start off with my best traits. Others have described me as nice, sweet, intelligent, empathic, insightful, sometimes charming, romantic, incredibly honest, gentle, and respectful. (And since modest isn't on that list, I can easily say that it's all true.) ^_^
As for how I would describe myself, I am a cuddly, caring, affectionate, attention-giving (and -seeking) Dominant. Currently in search of close friends, and hopefully even a relationship. Waiting for that right woman to come along and steal my heart... I can dream, can't I? =P
One of the main things to know about me is I'm a gamer. I also love to read, so feel free to suggest books! And I go see a lot of movies, too. And I love good food, so I like to eat out a lot too. When I can afford it. =P In general, these are my main vanilla activities, but I love trying something new as long as I have someone to do it with!
Pretty Fly for a Shy Guy
I am shy. I have a hesitancy and reluctance to open up, especially in crowds, as I often unknowingly make social mistakes and my actions tend to be perceived in unanticipated and unflattering ways. I'm getting better. I'm working on my confidence. Soon I won't even need to include this section. ^_~
If you can crack through my shyness, you'll find I'm a very sensual and affectionate person. I love to cuddle and touch, simply for the sake of touching. I love to give massages and wish I could practice and improve my skill.
However, I take my cue from the other person; if they touch me often enough, it'll crack my shyness (about touching at least) and I'll be willing to touch back. Should they never touch me though, I never touch them either. I am often too hesitant to initiate physical contact myself so that's why I appreciate those who can take the initiative themselves and not hesitate to touch me first. If they want to. Although when it comes to more intimate touching, I'm very hetero. Women only. =P
Whatcha up to?
I'm a pretty active member of a local community here in Greenville (SC-LOCK). I try to go to as many of their events as possible, so if you attend one, you're probably gonna see me there. It's an awesome community with tons of friendly people, so I strongly encourage people to come to as many of our events as possible!
I'm also excited to be a member of Whippersnappers in Atlanta, but I don't get to attend that as often as I like. I'd also like to attend more WHIMPER events (also in the Atlanta area). And finally I've heard of a couple communities up in the North Carolina area but I haven't had a chance to visit any of those yet. Unfortunately anything outside the Greenville area is something I can't really attend on a regular basis.
There is a semi-competitive website (sort of like a kinky Facebook) that I'm much more active on. Same username.
And that about wraps it up. Wanna know more, just ask! I love the type of woman who initiates! ^_~ |
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I have to say my opinion of this site, or more correctly, the people that use it (specifically other Dominants, and of those, specifically men), goes consistently downhill. I'm not sure why I even bother to visit here anymore.
Rarely do I bother trying to contact women on here anymore. All too often I am simply another face lost in the crowd of jerks.
It seems that the majority of guys on here want some kind of doormat 'instant slave, just add Me' kind of person. Or they want to pretend that the woman they're talking to is that in spite of any evidence to the contrary, to fulfill their fantasies and get their rocks off. I see a lot of submissive men do that to Dominant women, too, actually. I pity any woman who spends any more time with them than it takes to hit the block button.
If you have the courage to list yourself as a female submissive on this website (or a female at all actually), expect to get spammed out of your mind by these creeps. It's sad.
I'd recommend another website in particular but that would be a bit blatant disregard for the rules here, so I won't. They're not hard to find, though. Hopefully you already know of better websites, but if you don't, feel free to search, or simply ask me. I feel sorry for anyone who knows about only this site, as I once was in those shoes.
So why do I still have a profile here, you ask? Why do I even bother to log on and keep me in the 'recently online' category?
Well, occasionally some woman will contact me instead. I have my profile here, as honest as I can possibly be about who I am and what I'm looking for, and every now and then someone comes along and becomes, if nothing else, a new friend.
So if you're a woman looking for a guy to talk to who's not going to curse at you, instantly try to 'dominate' you, or think more about what's in your pants than what's between your ears, or if you just want some actual sane conversation for a few minutes (or more), you're more than welcome to contact me.
I may not be the best conversationalist in the world but at least I know how to show women respect. =/ |
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Finally have a recent photo to put up. This was my Halloween costume at a recent event I went to. It was going to be a vampire but I couldn't get the teeth to work. |
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If you were my girlfriend
I know what I would do.
I'd write a silly poem to say
What I would do for you.
If you were my girlfriend,
and we could talk awhile,
I'd do all that I could to
make you laugh and smile.
If you were my girlfriend,
I'd cherish and protect.
I know I'd always treat you with
the utmost respect.
If you were my girlfriend,
all the time I'd call.
And I'd share my jacket when
it gets cold in Fall.
If you were my girlfriend,
I'd get lost within your eyes.
Something that's so beautiful
could only mesmerize.
If you were my girlfriend
I'd touch you all the time.
Holding hands, a gentle kiss,
is that such a crime?
But you are not my girlfriend,
And I am not your guy.
'Cause first you have to contact me
and smile and say "Hi!"
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So I've been eating my own words in the whole 'not messaging back' thing.? Someone messaged me and we had a few conversations and I don't feel like we really clicked.? So, I at least had the courage to say so.
When we had another conversation or two after that, it was more than just not clicking, I just didn't feel like talking anymore and I kind of ignored her messages.? When I realized I was on the other side of the situation I had previously complained about, I stepped up and replied and said that I don't think we'd work out and that we should just let things go.? But it took me a while to realize that I was doing what I had complained about others doing.
I try not to be a hypocrite when I can help it.? =/
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So, how do I define the difference between slave and submissive?? I read an article that basically defines a "submissive" as someone who decides to submit every time a command is made.? Essentially, they can say yes or no to any command that is given.? Whereas a "slave" decides up front, saying yes or no to the entire relationship (usually after much negotiation and perhaps a contract), and once they say yes, then "no" to anything that was originally accepted at the start of the relationship can actually be a deal breaker and end the relationship altogether.
I disagree.? I feel that there are two different types of submission (if not more), and those are the two main types, but the rest is just a matter of semantics.? I just like to refer to my submissive, my partner, my girl, my pet, my bottom, as my 'slave.'? But, in what seems to be the socially acceptable semantics, she would only be my 'submissive' by that original definition.? And, though I would love my partner to call me Master, to some I would only have earned the title of Dominant.
The way I prefer to start a relationship is just as normal, talking with each other, vanilla to vanilla, as friends.? As we get to know each other, and if we seem interested in adding Dom/sub to our relationship, then I would give her little commands in the form of requests, but she would only be following commands she feels comfortable following (like, for instance, to have polite manners when speaking with me as a very simple way to start out.)? I also don't like to be commanded myself, so, assuming the submissive is amenable, I instruct her in what I consider a more polite, submissive way of speaking.
As the relationship grows and develops, more requests are made, and we can decide on any punishments she's willing to accept for failure to abide by my requests.? (Most requests at this point will be to smooth things between us and get along better, and to get to know each other more.? I may also start requesting things that I think will help give her good habits in areas she may be weak in, just as an example.)
If/when we decide to formalize our relationship (what the vanilla world would call 'going steady' or boyfriend/girlfriend or half a dozen other possible terms), then the requests would become commands.? At this point, she would be expected to obey any command that she agrees to follow, (basically, don't make a promise that she won't keep, but if she says she'll do something, she's expected to follow through) but she's able to say no to a command she doesn't like, or even to a command she's previously agreed to if needed.? However, in most circumstances, I would like an explanation of why a particular command is not acceptable; that way I can make sure to work at only giving commands that are.
At some point I may ask her to call me Master, and I call her slave, or other possible pet names, like Sir, Sire, or pet, kitty, or some pet name that matches her personality.? I just like Master/slave though, as a default.? But, if we're using the terminology described at the beginning of this little essay, she'd still be a 'submissive' at this point, free to say no whenever she wants, as we continue to learn more about each other, especially in terms of likes and dislikes.
Far on down the road, far enough that our first few meetings/dates/conversations really don't need to be concerned with it, we could possibly do a 'contract.'? This wouldn't be necessary if the relationship is going just fine without it, but if the submissive truly wants to be a 'slave' (by the original terminology) then setting up a contract, perhaps for short term at first, and then potentially for longer term, and then when we reach the point that a vanilla relationship would consider marriage, a 'permanent' contract (with re-negotiation clauses probably), I'm definitely not turned off by the idea.? But that's all long term stuff.? I also do not consider them goals that have to be reached.? I'm totally okay with 'submissive' being all it ever is, if that works for us.
However, upon some thought, I've decided that I really would not want to start off from the beginning having my partner as a 'contracted slave.'? There would've been no opportunity to get to know each other, and if something like that did happen, whatever contract was put in place would have to be adaptable and renegotiable enough to make up for lack of knowledge about each other.
Plus, I'm fairly new.? I've had online experience, but not much real life experience.? I'm still feeling things out and experimenting cautiously.? As it currently stands, any relationship I enter in, my partner would have to understand that I'm new and eagerly learning what it means to be a good Dom.
So, ultimately, I don't think I'm the right person for a potential partner of mine to just hop into a 'true slave' or 'contract slave' relationship right from the get go.? Not right now, at least, while I have so little experience.? Sure, I have fantasies of exactly that, what Dom doesn't?? But realistically, what I'm really looking for, is a submissive, not a slave, unless that slave is willing to start out as a submissive only for awhile.? I just want to call her a slave, for the fun of it.? And I guess that makes me a Dominant, not a Master, but again I prefer Master, just because of how it sounds and feels.
Should anyone else in the scene require definition of our relationship, we could refer to ourselves as Top/bottom, Dom/sub, whatever will help them to understand the truth.? I don't mean to imply incorrect information about our relationship to others.? To me, they're just words that have erotic meaning, so I feel free to use them erotically.? The rest is just semantics.
So again, those who define themselves as 'slave' or 'contract slave' or whatever, please be willing to start off as only 'submissive' when you are with me, or to understand and accept that I'm new at this and be willing, and able, to adapt.? And for any partner I enter a D/s relationship with, I also require that you be able to communicate your likes and dislikes.? Even for a 'true slave' or 'contract slave' who will 'do anything,' I'd rather not give commands I know you don't like.? A partner who often says "whatever you want" or "I don't know/care" in response to questions about their preferences, especially at the start of a relationship where we don't know each other yet, is extremely frustrating.
So hopefully that sets a few things straight.
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Well, the whole girlfriend thing didn't last long.? Fun while it lasted, and we're still gonna be friends.? But now I'm back to looking.? *sigh*
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So I have a girlfriend now.? Met her from this site. ^_^? She's considering allowing me to be her Master, so she's not yet my slave, just girlfriend.? We're also not sure how long term this relationship will be, since she's moving in the fall.? But she rocks.? ^_^
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Redness ahead and behind me is white
Yet darkness prevails throughout most of my sight
The cool crisp sweet air through my window; delight
I?feel like I soar at a heavenly height
Of all the sensations that make me feel right
One I love most is just driving at night
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So what is with this new practice of non-communication?
I message someone, she messages me back, we chat a bit, have a conversation or two, and then it's like a switch flicks off and regardless of how many times I message them, they never message me back again.
It'd be one thing if I was blocked and didn't even see them online, but they sit there online and don't reply to anything I say.? Or they read my messages but don't reply to them.? And it's not like I message someone and they never reply, that's a pretty easy signal to interpret.? But to reply a couple times and then just stop?
When did it become polite to just stop talking to someone you're not interested in, even after they continue to try to talk with you?? At least have the decency to say "Sorry I don't think we'll work out" or something along those lines.? I don't mind that, I mean, I can't be the perfect match for everyone, it's fine.
If someone stops messaging you, you can stop messaging them and it's fine, but if they keep on messaging you and you're not interested, step up and say so, at least be honest.
It's like in real life.? If you go on a date and nobody calls each other, then it's over.? But if one person calls, it's more polite to just say you're not interested than for them to keep calling.
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The following are things I would love to be able to say to my girlfriend, if I had one...
Your eyes are the most beautiful I've ever seen.
I love the way your hand feels in mine.
Your smile kicks mine into gear.
My thoughts drift to you all the time.
My arms feel made to go around you.
I love it when you show up unexpectedly.
Time spent with you is better than anything.
I love to make you squirm.
The smell of your perfume drives me wild.
You look good in anything.
Your kisses are the best.
I want to spend more time with you.
Turning you on is so much fun.
Every little touch with you is amazing.
I always savor the feel of your skin.
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Response to someone saying that in my profile I say I am not sadistic (well it doesn't say that anymore because I updated it):
The exact part goes as this:? "I can be, on the rare occasion, but that is not what I prefer to be, and women looking for that will probably not find a good time with me.? I save pain for a punishment device; pleasure is my favorite tool of torture."? I have sadistic tendencies, but I prefer situational cruelty over actual physical pain.? (Set up a lot of desire for some reward, then make the submissive go through something challenging and possibly even semi-cruel to get it, but hopefully pleasurable and/or useful towards growth or training.? Or maybe just not allow her to have it, just to keep her on her toes, or as a punishment.)
But, I can cause mild amounts of pain to a slave that masochistically enjoys it because it's another type of pleasure.? I can cause larger amounts of pain (when appropriate and consensual) because it is necessary for consensual training.? Would I describe myself as rough?? No, and I say that in my profile.? I wouldn't match with a woman that's deeply into it and wants it all the time, and doesn't enjoy any of the gentler activities, such as cuddling.
I'm not completely non-sadistic, however.? For instance, flogging, wax play, electric play, and even whips are all something I would dabble in.? I've actually gotten some practice at flogging.
When I put the above section in my profile, I'm basically indicating that someone who wants roughness as the main theme of the relationship, and wants it in every scene, will not match with me.? But someone who wants mild roughness occasionally during a scene every now and then would match with me well, depending of course on how well our kinks match up.? I much prefer gentler activities, and would rather be soft and intimate, but that's not to say I can never be even remotely sadistic.
Perhaps the best way to describe would be to say that when I play sadistically, my desires lean towards a great amount of sensual play during and between the sadistic portions.
It's really rare to find a woman who is submissive and yet not masochistic, and I don't mind catering to masochism as another form of giving pleasure.? I have my limits though, so those who are really deeply masochistic and want things I would consider extreme are not a match.? My interests list is probably a good indication of the activities I would pursue.
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