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Female Submissive, 71, daytona area, Florida
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Female Submissive, 47, Manhattan, New York
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About sensubmaybe
First of all, I am not a sub in the traditional sense as I've come to understand it. As a result I am not looking for a traditional domme or domme/sub relationship; I am looking for something different. So please, let's not waste each others time. If you:
- Consider yourself to be a lifestyle or pro domme - Feel compelled to capitalize all references to yourself, and use lower case for all references to subs - Have no genuine interest or consideration of your lover's desires or needs - Have need to humiliate, debase, sissify or feminize the guy you are with - Get off on inflicting pain (if you are really turned on by spanking I would consider a bit of it within the context or a mutual respectful loving relationship, even though I am not turned on by it) - Think that somehow because you call yourself a domme and consider me a sub that I would and should just blindly submit to you or go to some absurd length and effort immediately upon first or early contact to prove my worthiness - Don't like or can't handle a masculine guy who isn't afraid to be vulnerable
THEN PLEASE DON'T CONTACT ME BECAUSE WE AREN'T WHAT THE OTHER IS LOOKING FOR With that out of the way... I'm still rather new to this, but here are some things I've learned:
I've learned that there are a lot of different kinds of women that I can find appealing and sexy. I've learned that many times someone that might not have appealed to me initially often has, once they have revealed something of their head and heart that was beautiful. I've also found that even stunningly beautiful women can stop passion and desire dead in its tracks when they are their own favorite subject. I've learned that appeal is highly individual and subjective.
I have learned that there is no loss of masculinity in desiring to enter a world of soft feminine sanctuary. I have learned that it feels incredibly good to be vulnerable with you and surrender. I have accepted that it doesn't make me weak when I am laying next to you in bed and I pull the pillow down adjacent to your torso, and lay my head on your heart, drape my arm around your hips, feel your arm reach down and envelop my shoulders and your hand caress my head.
I've learned that according to how it is spoken or written, certain sexual acts that may seem unappealing, base, and taboo can be a transcendent connection between us when we are together in bed doing them and communicating to each other about their meaning, how they feel and how they are a way of displaying unimaginable intimacy, respect, devotion and love, drenched in unbridled, pulsating, throbbing, erotic passion and pleasure. I've discovered that slowing down can be the most torturously delicious, passion-infused thing we can do.
You have taught me that being underneath you, surrounded by you, looking up into your eyes, our bodies barely moving, our heartbeats clearly audible, our breathing deep, our porous skin, warm and moistening, is a place where I have never felt more alive or more desperately desirous of you to the point where I just can't get enough of you, can't get close enough to you, inside your entire being deep enough to convey everything you really mean to me, but it is a place I never want to leave and a longing that I never tire of trying to fulfill.
I understand that there is a compact between us where I serve you as you wish for our mutual pleasure. Yes, there has to be friendship and chemistry. Sexual/sensual chemistry is a part of it. If the potential of this kind of intimacy is appealing to you, please write. If you understand that getting it out in the open DOESN'T mean that I am just looking for a one night stand or a meaningless fling, please write. I'm a one-woman guy. It's just a matter of us finding each other.
The vitals, the worldly, the mundane: Early 50s, decent looking, in decent shape, liberal, possess integrity, educated, reasonably well traveled, emotionally available and appropriate, conscious, compassionate, passionate, creative, fun, funny, sensual, inspired by all kinds of art, people, and ideas, humbled by the everyday beauty in this cruel, crazy, beautiful world.
I'm looking for someone with similar sensibilities and character who wants an overall relationship of equals, but who would be turned on by leading sometimes and taking charge sexually and also outside of bed if you so desire. Taking charge can also mean choosing to switch and give up that control, all in a safe, positive, healthy, respectful, playful, emotionally close and deep, ultimately satisfying way.
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I used to think that love was the only thing that would do. And although that is still an idyllic, thoroughly appealing goal worth striving for, I have been rethinking and cogitating on this in the context of my erotic, fetishistic, ultimately romantic desires.
Clearly there has to be connection; connection at a deep emotional and intellectual level. And certainly there has to attraction, but, in my mind, one fuels the other. I can?t imagine a woman ever holding my attention if she lacked certain qualities: compassion, intelligence, intellectual curiosity, some sense of grace, confidence, and yes, vulnerability.
Looking at this from the other side, I?ve thought about past vanilla lovers. With the exception of a couple, I can?t imagine making that leap from a vanilla to D/s intimacy that expands enough to seriously explore each other?s darker, taboo, erotic desires. Dismiss them as kinks, but the point is: I can?t see how it would work to try and evolve a relationship with a lover with whom I have an established (vanilla) pattern ? regardless of how sexually open and intrepid we were as vanilla lovers ? and successfully tell her that I want to ?expand the repertoire? of our intimacy to include times where she is in a dominant role, not to mention all the variables and variations that opening the ?kink? door exposes. I would think that unless this terrain is successfully traversed very early on, it would be nearly impossible to take an established vanilla lover seriously if she attempted to make such a change, especially if it isn?t something she came up with in the first place.
That led me to consider if it is possible to find a lover that I can really connect with and explore and experience the kinds of dark passion I, and apparently so many desire, and count on us to ?fall in love.? Again, that would be amazing, but if the other elements and understandings are there: similar erotic D/s desires or kinks, a mutual turn on from various acts, and there is some kind of intellectual common ground, emotional understanding and physical attraction, could this become a fulfilling relationship? Or is that what love is? This isn?t to say that all I?m looking for is a kinky ?fuck buddy,? but I?m trying to picture an otherwise ?normal,? ?pick up the laundry on your way home, honey,? relationship and not have that ?normal? and mundane reality kill the credibility of the D/s, BDSM, kink-life, when we?re in bed.
On a couple of occasions since I?ve identified and accepted my ?desires? I?ve tried to broach the subject with vanilla women I?ve been involved with. It?s not gone well. One, who was quite open sexually, simply couldn?t embrace seeing herself as a ?domme,? which is fine since it isn?t like I?m looking for a ?domme? in the traditional sense. But it would have been nice to have certain elements come into our intimacy. I?ve done everything from have conversations trying to open up the subject, to actions in bed, all with limited success at best. If I have to put your hand on the back of my head, it doesn?t work; if we?re standing up, naked, kissing and hugging and I slide down on my knees and you immediately drop to yours because it feels weird to stand over me, we aren?t on the same wavelength.
I think what I?m looking for is a relationship with a woman that includes many or all the things people want from love: mutual respect, trust, a sense of emotional and physical safety, adoration, and devotion, but I?d like it from an understatedly confident woman who was secure and strong yet feminine, who desired taking the erotic reins at times and exploring with me. Someone who is comfortable and turned on by vulnerability, someone extremely communicative: physically and verbally, and last but not least, someone with complementary kinks and erotic desires. I hope for a woman who is turned on by talking, who isn?t afraid to acknowledge the passion between us, who is turned on by hearing me admit how amazing it is, she is, and how connected I feel to her, a woman who is turned on by coaxing these ?midnight confessions? out of me.
Out in the vanilla world it would be exciting to know that we shared this. I fantasize about the turn on, if, at a party or public event, she leaned over and whispered about what was going to happen when we got home and she got me alone. In our non-sexual life I want a relationship of equals, one where we are both conscious enough to let her or me lead based on the circumstances and which of us was the best one to do so. I?m eager to surrender to her wisdom when it?s real, and I?d hope for a woman confident enough to do the same. I don?t want to be emasculated. I want to order dinner for you, not because I have some macho pride, but because it?s a small service a man can do for his woman. I don?t want to be a doormat; I?m not sure how a woman could love one.
If all this sounds like dismissible bedroom kink then so be it; the heart wants what the heart wants. But somehow I have to believe that she?s out there, that woman alone in the dark who is aching to guide a guy with my desires to mutual shadow-drenched ecstasy.
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We lay there naked, body touching body as the late afternoon slid into darkness. Moonlight snuck in through a gap in the blinds and poured silver light across your body. You were open, on your back, one arm above you, the other turned up under the pillow. I took my pillow and placed it next to you, just below your arm. Then I put my head on the pillow, turned on my side towards you and began to caress the moonlight on your body. Every inch of you seduces me. My lips were drawn to your side and I kissed you below your arms, down your torso. We were languid and relaxed. I thought about how amazing it is that we get this time ? so brief when added up and compared to all the minutes and hours of our lives ? this opportunity to be still and near each other and share such intimacy. How lucky we are that we have these moments to share ourselves in this way with one other person, to make love to and be made love to, to touch and be touched, to confess and express our darkest desires as I intrepidly reveal my addiction to this?to you, as I lay here naked, exposed and revealed, vulnerable to whatever you wish to do with all this. |
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I feel so humbled when someone finds my profile, appreciates it, and let's me know. It makes me feel less alone. Oddly, inevitably they are somewhere far away, involved or otherwise unavailable. But the fact that they could relate makes me hopeful that one day I will find her.
Here are some of the kind words that I've received:
"Just a brief note....your profile and your journal are exquisite, I thoroughly enjoyed perusing your profile. Gorgeous photo as well."
"Hello sensubmaybe,
I followed your post on the "Any real sub men on here" thread to your profile. My goodness, your profile is wonderful... interesting, amusing, clear and well articulated. Your words in both your profile and in your journal represent you well."
"WOW.... I mean wow!! I share so much of what you think...and you have a beautiful body!"
"i like your profile...i feel similiarly..."
"fucking HOT profile and pics" "I will say that your profile was unique. I agree with with quite a few of your beliefs. A true D/s relationship can exist in a multitude of ways. It can exist and there never be any type of fetish or BDSM activities (bondage, etc). It can also exist in many other ways. I think we forget that it's not all about kink. It's about learning your partner to a level that no one else has known.
Again, I enjoyed your profile. It was a breath of fresh air."
"Loved reading your profile and your journal entries.
xoxox"
"I have to say for someone with very little experience, you have a way with words. " "I want to tell you I reallly like the way you write. I like your journal alot. I wish I was the women in the 7/12 entry..... Kind regards"
"I am completely and totally blown away..." "22 years in this lifestyle and I have never found a man who could say all of the things I felt are you sure you are not a dream?" "You leave me completely speechless, that in itself is huge! I write for a living and after reading your words I feel like a 16 year old trying to form a sentence to a college boy! Please forgive me for not following up with a more elaborate email but you say everything my heart feels and there is nothing left but awe." "Id love for you to look over my profile, just from your opening paragraph...i think we might be a good match, im going now to read your profile in its entirety."
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I was thinking about intimacy, and at first I thought that sex was the second most intimate thing two people could do. But that isn't empirically true. Total strangers can have sex and although there is certainly an element of intimacy, it is limited. It lacks the intimacy of conversation. Two people can have sex, not even know each others names, not say a word, hide with eyes closed or in the darkest of darkness.
Conversation: that's where the potential for true intimacy exists. Emotional intimacy, personal, vulnerable intimacy. Combine it with sex and that is where true intimacy resides. |
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So many domme profiles talk about not wanting guys with their own agenda. While I recognize that dommes see those whose first approach comes with an immediate laundry list of fetishes as insincere, but it also strikes me as a bit of a Catch-22 to expect to find a guy who has no desires, no agenda, and no expectations.
How many of us could possibly be out there whose real and genuine agenda is that they have "no agenda"? Is it realistic to think that there are really lots of guys who are willing to sign up for what they hope is a long term relationship with a dominant woman who will only consider a relationship if the guy is willing to submit to anything she wants, even before they've gotten to know each other?
Doesn't that make dommes pretty much interchangable? I know dommes often think sub men are pretty much the same, or at least that's the claim. But is it realistic to think that there are lots of sub guys out there who equally happy doing your house work as getting laid, and would gladly do one without the other?
What leads us to be subs in the first place? Even in my admitted lack of experience I have to believe that a lot of us are lead to this because we have sexual fetishes that we want to explore. Things we can't or haven't done in the vanilla world with vanilla women.
I would find it quite surprising to think that there were lots of guys who would start getting involved with a woman, hoping that certain things happen between them, including sex, fetish exploration, etc., and yet just settle when this new woman tells then that it isn't going to happen and that submission is about having them (the sub), say, clean her kitchen floor or get in a cage (if this isn't their turn on) or spend their days running errands or any number of things that most guys who get into this aren't initally interested in.
Plenty of us will gladly do your bidding, but only once there is some acknowledgment that you are worth it, that you are unique, and that there is something simpatico between us, and that this whole notion of blind submission and expectation of a guy with "no agenda" is about the only fantasy that just isn't real. |
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I?m beginning to think this place is turning more and more into ?pay for service? land, foot fetish- ville, and do my housework, run my errands village. Also, the same people are on here constantly. These are the same ones who are here looking for their sub, don?t hesitate to remind us that we, male subs, are worthless dime a dozens and how all the dommes here have their pick among hordes of us, but yet the same people are here all the time. And while I recognize that a lot of them are here to bullshit with friends, play online, etc., there are plenty of ?the usual suspects? who are here seeking that perfect D/s relationship.
Is there no one truly unique? The vast majority of domme profiles say the same things: ?I?m a goddess; I?m a bitch; you should read every word I?ve written before thinking about contacting me; I'm sick of all the fakes and wannabes that want sex; my time is so valuable?blah, blah, blah.? Half of them are barely literate; some are flat out illiterate. It?s hard to picture oneself respecting and devoting oneself to someone to whom English is their native tongue, yet they can barely string together a comprehensible sentence. I don?t really look at men?s profiles but I?m sure there is a similar version of consistently low achievement and underwhelming first impressions there as well. In many ways this is just like any other dating site and the gender gap continues. |
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I just came back from a weekend rendezvous with a dominant lover. We are both on the east coast but not as close as we?d like, so we have to settle for occasional midway meeting. She is so good to me and I do everything I can to please her. Our kinks are pretty compatible and she indulges my desires, my passions for her. Fortunately pleasing her is a massive turn on for me, and it goes without saying, for her as well. I love worshipping her body.
I got to our destination first and took a hot soapy shower. Then I got into bed, naked, and waited for her to arrive. When I heard her opening the door, my heart beat wildly. She came in, walked over to the bed, stood over me and pulled the sheet away to gaze at me naked and of course she could see my desire for her.
She showered and I waited for her with an open towel. I helped dry her off and she led us to bed. There she kissed me passionately, caressing my body, stroking me and doing whatever she wanted. Her touch makes my body writhe and arch up, wordlessly begging her for more. She teases me, she holds back until I can?t stand it. And when I felt like I was about to explode with desire for her, she stopped. She put her had on the back of my head and guided me to her breast. She held me there and I could sense her looking down at me as I softly kissed, sucked?suckled. She laid back as I worshiped her body, first with soft kisses, then soft, wet, warm strokes of my tongue. I heard her whisper encouragement and tell me to bathe her. I bathed her breasts, her chest, up to her neck, then her shoulders, gliding my tongue over her taut slender biceps, then down under her arms and up the outside toward her back.
I followed the contour of her subtle curves down her side, to her waist. I felt her hand reach down and caress my head and slowly slide me to the middle of her belly and then she pushed me down. I love being between her legs like this ? feeling her thighs on the sides of my head, my face in the soft mound of hair and the fragrance of her passion so close to me. So much of this is not unusual, not outwardly D/s, but like certain aspects of Tantra, it is about the underlying understanding between us, the attitude. My sense of serving, servicing her, feeling like I?m pleasing her and the power of that is beyond erotic. Starting slowly, teasingly, I kiss her thighs and lick her legs. I slide down and kiss, then lick her feet, then I fellate her toes, taking each into my mouth and sliding up and down on it, then taking them all in. Then I bathe my way back up to her and again, lay my head between her legs. I kiss the mound of her moist hair as if I?m embracing something sacred. We both moan, expressing our mutual pleasure. This has become ritualistic between us. I know that she wants, expects, and deserves this tender attention. She knows I love doing it. It starts with kisses, then slowly, painstakingly, excruciatingly slowly moving down to kiss those lips for the first time. I feel like a virgin, like a schoolboy, shyly approaching, with almost restrained intrepidity. I kiss her lips and feel the slight sticky wetness of her that has seeped through them, encouraging me to spread her lips and experience the overwhelming wetness of her. Slowly I kiss deeper, I begin to touch her lips with my tongue as if it?s the lips of her mouth and I am working my way toward that first honey coated French kiss. I curl my tongue upward and slightly slide the tip of it between the lips. I feel her wetness coming to me and I can no longer hold back and I lick her deeply, passionately, trying desperately to get all of my tongue inside her body. I feel her start to writhe up to meet the rhythm of my strokes. I slide a pillow under her to better lick the length of her. I know that she will work up to the first of many explosive orgasms and she will feed me this way. She knows the orgasmic please this gives me. If I don?t contain myself I can come just from doing this to her. This is an intimate dance. She knows I will lovingly dedicate myself to her in this way for as long as she likes. I usually want more of her than she can take. I never tire of her taste or drinking her or bathing my whole face in her generous wet warmth.
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I once interviewed a famous yoga instructor and one of my questions had to do with the connection between the often simple, physical poses or asanas, and the emotional change that came out of assuming them. My example in the question was the premise that if one was depressed, they could exercise or in this case do yoga and it could have a positive effect on mood. He talked about the power of various positions and movements and how the energy that is connected to our emotions works its way through our bodies in the poses. He talked about how often we reflect physically what we are feeling emotionally. For example, when depressed, we rarely walk with good upright posture and chest out, but usually we are closed, slightly hunched over with shoulders pinching inward. The reverse is true when we are feeling happy, strong, confident and carefree.
Of course the poses in yoga are deliberate and conscious and different poses bring about different physical, emotional and psychological results. That?s one reason that there are different yoga programs and poses for different times of the day and for different purposes, which aid us in everything from relaxation to energy.
I think that in a similar, and even deeper way, some of these dynamics are at play within the context of various ?kinky? acts in the D/s dynamic ? they are expressing complex subconscious feelings that are potentially quite profound. For example, women who are confident and commanding often carry themselves in a certain way. BDSM images often show women ? often ample ? in power poses with hands on hips and legs slightly spread. That stance can imply something bold and daring. Men, sometimes look exaggeratedly cowering by comparison. Other images suggest woman as feminine and striking, sometime nurturing yet dominant in poses standing over a man who is kneeling in front of her as she reaches down to caress his head or pull him into her, close to her. The men in some of these images are sometimes very masculine, muscular figures that allude to physical strength, but yet his position beneath her with head bowed down close to the life source, or look up into her eyes, implies that he is getting his power from her.
It makes me wonder if underlying a true D/s dynamic there isn?t ultimately an implied acknowledgement that regardless of what a man is or achieves there is a maternal debt that will never be repaid. These are perhaps underlying, ?meta? messages that may never rise above the subconscious. They are tied to the dichotomy of the female as both mother and lover. This isn?t to suggest anything overtly oedipal; after all, most of us have no literal sexual desire for our own mother! But if we were to try to break down and verbalize the underlying dynamics of what is going on in the ?kink? -- where the woman stands over the man and they look into each other?s eyes and she sees the man get down and worship her literally at her feet -- there is, for some of us, a highly sexually arousing event that involves the, perhaps unspoken, covenant that he needs to be seen as succumbing to the ego surrender associated with accepting the fact that the dominant woman provides the potential of the guidance, nurturance and love that he got from his own mother, but now fully realized as an adult, including non-maternal, sexual implications and possibilities.
Males are pulled away from mothers in order to pursue the construct of the predominant male archetype. This pursuit is the antithesis of that relationship with the first woman. I think that part of the great turn on of finding a woman who is equally turned on and enthusiastic about her part in this particular kink, with its underlying dynamic, is that it allows the submissive man to let go of that archetype and acknowledge how much he longs for that which is feminine, which was withdrawn from most of us at such an early age.
As consenting, sexual adults these ?meta? messages play themselves out in a way, which unlike as children with our mothers, where we explore this interdependence and the need for closeness with a woman in an erotic, sensual and sexual way. There is also eroticism and arousal in the privacy of having her, our dominant woman, know of this desire, which to the masculine, outside world is perceived as a weakness. In this way the submissive man is going into the realm of some of the greatest taboos within our sexual society. After all, the idea of that maternal nurturance, love and tenderness is relegated to a brief period of near total dependence associated with pre-birth, infancy and the early parts of childhood. It is outside the mother?s realm that the male learns everything from aggressiveness and the skills needed to compete, to the need to hide anything within himself that shows acknowledgement of dependence and vulnerability, which are traditionally seen as feminine traits and thus considered weaknesses in the patriarchal world. For reasons I am not clear on, there is also a turn on in the embarrassment we feel in revealing this need within ourselves, to a woman. Implicit in our vulnerability is acknowledgement of the woman?s power over us, which at once can be sexual, sensual and nurturing. This acknowledgement -- this covenant that outlines this intimacy and interdependence -- is the antithesis of what traditional masculine imagery does with regard to women: everything from the patronizing of the woman?s place to the assumed subservience that is still a part of the thinking of more traditional men, to in the worst cases, rape and violence against women.
To me it is something as simple as this ?on my knees? kink, when done with the right woman within the context of a trusting, loving relationship, that works through many complex issues. And in spite of the unpopularity of acknowledging the sexual turn on, it is in fact that turn on that attracts many of us to want to make this expression.
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Based on what I read in many of these profiles, I wonder if there isn?t more emphasis in conforming to the definitions that people have of this lifestyle, than the real dynamics between two people. |
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I recognize that there are those who consider kink to be something superficial and outside of ?true? D/s relationships. I find this a curious point of view. To me, it doesn?t take into consideration the underlying dynamic behind the actions. It isn?t just about what is done, it?s about what is expressed in those acts deemed ?kink.? |
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