I am an experienced slave (sexslave more than painslave, but do know my place and do as I'm told), and have my daughter as my poly slave partner.

We seek to be slut-trained, go dogging, swinging, and generally quite extreme sex slave training for us both.

Mild to moderate pain for us both too, but mainly sexslavery and being used by many men.

We seek a firstly REAL, and secondly EXPERIENCED Master, for D/s training, slut-training, and mild to moderate pain-training.

We are Mother and Daughter for real. We can serve side by side, and even be fully nude next to each other, or serve Master or men together.

We both have few limits but they include no underage, no animals, no scat, nothing too extreme.

My ideal poly situation would be where we both served the same Master, both competed to be his best slave and favourite slut, and even had to watch each other take the cane, or service other men.

For me, it's great to get back to my submission and slavery feelings after many years, and competing with my daughter certainly makes me push myself harder.

I will be careful over chatting and especially photo/microphone/webcam, as I know just how bad liars, fakers, and scammers have become, so for now just showing a couple of photos of myself as I have to be careful of picsavers, especially with shirley being 18 (doubt if anyone will wish to fake someone my age but who knows!). When interest peaks, will show vanilla of myself and my daughter, then steadily progress with trust... step by step.

We have dabbled in serving together, but was more just a few weeks with an old 'friend' of mine that took us dogging together and wasn't so much into BDSM or pain.

Again, we are real, don't mind sending a few vanilla photos of each of us, or even chatting on the phone (online voicechat if you are not in the UK or if I am low on credit).

We are willing to relocate almost anywhere in the world for the right (and ellusive) Master seeking TPE 24/7 live-in, but remind those in certain countries that often visa-limitations or work prevent it from happening more than the person.

We won't answer any messages that 'command' us to show on webcam in lesbian acts, not will I show myself beating my daughter or her beating me, that is for the chosen Master to do.

Please do read our journal, we will keep it filled-in and up-to-date with our thoughts, experiences, and fantasies!

slave Hazel (and slave shirley)