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About LiefStigandr


What am I looking for?
That is a good question, and may avoid problems later to clarify the answer.
I am not looking for a “play pal”. I am not after a fuck-buddy.
I have had girlfriends in the past—long ago—and I was married once.
I want to get to know someone a bit before I do anything.
I do not rush much. I was friends with an old girlfriend years ago for about a year before we actually did anything of the sense of a relationship.
It does not have to be so long; merely making it a point I am not after a short, casual fling.
I am looking for a more permanent partner.
I am too old—in my mind—to be hopping all over.
I like some degree of stability anyway.
It is also good to read my stuff to know more in depth about me. While it seems nice, there needs to be some similarity and similar interests for anything to work. I learned long ago if the only thing we share is an interest in anime, or video games, it doesn’t make for much of a lasting relationship.
If you read all the notes and essays and such I post on here and are interested, just send a message.

Essay on Unity...

 

 

            First, allow me to begin by noting that my impression of the concept of unity is contrary to the idealistic one held by the majority of the general public.  Having made note of that, here follows a short piece concerning the absurdity of unity as the term is commonly used.

          Absolute unity is a utopian ideal—a phantasm.  It is an escapist fantasy crafted by people unwilling to face the fact that conflict between humans is a part of life.

          Absolute unity requires that there be nothing to divide us.  Differing beliefs, economic systems, ethics, ideals, languages, morals, political systems, religions, and social precepts all serve to divide us—at the least—on national, personal, social, and spiritual levels.  This is an undeniable fact of life.

          Differences of opinion occur among all free-thinking people.  Only those who have been heavily indoctrinated—brainwashed—avoid this.  Are we to brainwash the entire world?  If so, which system are we going to force them to follow?

          Absolute unity would require that we all have the same beliefs, economic system, ethics, ideals, language, morals, political system, religion, and social precepts.  Also, that we be conditioned to never formulate any thoughts antagonistic towards the status quo.  It would require absolute conformity.  I should not have to explain the absurdity of this.

          For those who think this would be good, I suggest that they read Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, Ayn Rand’s Anthem, and George Orwell’s 1984—then seriously consider the implications of each one.

          Absolute unity is implausible, but partial unity already exists.  People of like-mind unite for companionship.  People of the same faith unite for worship.  People who are oppressed unite to overpower their oppressor.  People with power unite to maintain their power.  All of these are examples of partial unity, and its causes.  There are many others.

          The American Indian Movement, B’nai B’rith, Free and Accepted Masons, Pagan Educational Network, Roman Catholic Church, Rune Gild, United Nations, and others, ad naseam, are all examples of groups made of people united for a shared cause.

          However, even in these groups, no two people share exactly the same thoughts on every topic considered.  They simply share enough in common, and respect the cause enough, to work around minor differences.

          Now, one may ask should we settle for a partial unity based on a shared principle—such as:  We are all human—and work around other differences?  At first glance, this seems reasonable; yet, it presents its own set of problems.

          One of the first being that the universally shared principle we can all agree on may be hard to find.

          Consider the principle above:  We are all human.  It sounds nice, and many decent people would agree.  But, some people believe that only those of their racial, religious, or social group should be seen—and treated—as human.  It is a common “tribal” attitude.  We are all human obviously will not be our shared principle.

          Also, if we agree to accept—and work around—differences, what do we do when another’s system demands that they destroy ours?  Do we accept that?  Or do we do what nature intended—as shown by self-preservation being the supreme law—and fight? 

          I, for one, would fight.  In a struggle for survival I do not tie myself up in intellectual Gordian knots by agonizing over what to do.  I consider animals—how they would respond and what priorities they would apply—and act in a like manner.  We may have a higher soul, but all humans have an animal soul, and for a reason.  Each has its place—one is not better than the other.

          Now I have come to the crux of this piece.  I believe that I have shown that the ideal of absolute unity is a concept of which we can say reductio ad absurdum

          If absolute unity is, in a free world, among free-thinking people, an absurdity—and it is—then what should be done?

          My answer is, essentially, nothing.  In my estimation, absolute unity is a fantasy—unsuitable for practical politics—and partial unity among all people is too.

          Therefore, we are left with conflict—struggle—as an inherent part of life that we must deal with.  Why is this—why should it be—seen as a bad thing?  This is the way of nature.  It is nature’s way of resisting—and removing—disease and weakness, thereby strengthening the system.  I can find no fault in this.  It is as it should be.

          Some days you are the rat—other days you are the cheese.

          Struggle—though painful—in beneficial; it has a purpose.

          We do not grow, or learn, without a struggle.  Through struggle, order is imposed on chaos, systems are refined, and life is given meaning.

          Struggle leads to growth—change.  If things grow, they thrive.  If they stagnate, they die.  In a state of absolute unity the status quo prevails.  This causes stagnation.

          Absolute unity would, therefore, lead to the death of all development, and—consequently—to the slow death of our species as we know it.

          Therefore, I stand opposed to idealistic visions of unity and encourage people to struggle to reach the highest level of development that they can reach. 

          If you want unity, find those who share your views—then join them.  Undertake concrete, resolute, action to pursue your goals and acquire that which you seek.  Act aggressively to create the reality you want.

          Sure, it is a struggle; but the struggle will make your life richer, and you stronger.  Your life will have more meaning because you will have struggled for, and earned, the life you wanted for yourself.

          I am not an idealist.  I am often more an iconoclast.  I do not envision utopias and I am not looking for “saviors”, nor seeking the “salvation” they are selling.  I have no use for such doctrines.

Having a religious view myself, one day I think there will be a unity, but not in this age.

          So I exhort you to struggle and—thereby—grow stronger.  Leave absolute unity to the idealists and join those who struggle to remake the world in their image—by actions, not dreams.

         

 

Is the Majority Right?



     First, let me state I believe strongly in the Constitutional concept of keeping politics from being tied with religion.  Our system was not meant to be a theocracy, nor did the founders intend us to make any laws favoring a religion, nor to make laws unnecessarily prohibiting any religious expression.  I state unnecessarily as there are, in fact, some religious practices which should be thwarted by the law of the land, such as “honor killings”.  (Anyone with good sense can determine which category any particular religious practice falls in to.)

     At the same time, the founders did look to religious texts for some inspiration in matters of justice, ethics, and morals.  While it is true many were not Christian in the normal sense of the word, and quite a few were Deists, that still does not mean they were unaware that some religious instruction—even if you do not wholly believe in it as a matter of theology—often presented good precepts to live by.  (Do not steal, do not kill, have equal weights and measures in business dealings, and others.)

     There was a time when politics was not a lifelong profession, but more of a duty.  A senator was chosen by his people and represented them for his term then went back to his farm, or whatever business he had prior to being chosen.  I think the fact we have gotten away from that has certainly played a role in the insanity that seems to plague many of the decisions being made by career politicians who have no grounding in the “real world”, so to speak.

     As I look at many of the new laws and other matters being run through our legislature today, I see a lot of idealism in some, corruption in others, and very little realism.  While there is always a small amount of idealism in any new idea, the focus these politicians have on whether or not to vote for a new law often seems to be on the wrong thing.

     What I mean is that we have a Republic, in terms of government, that makes rulings by a democratic process.  Essentially, majority rules.  However, I think there is too much focus on winning the vote, on being the majority, and not enough on an actual consideration of what it is you are voting for. 

     The court is set—it seems—to throw out a recent attempt to enact a new law here.  A law which is seen as clearly unconstitutional in both its formulation and intent.  Those who seek to get it passed have made public comments they do not care; that they will find some way to enact the ideal regardless of court ruling.          

     I am not here to debate all the merits and flaws of all these laws of recent times, but rather to look at a principle in relation to them.

     In the Torah, in Jewish law, there is a ruling that one should go after the majority.  The democratic ideal in justice and decisions is clear.  Connected to this, though, is the instruction that—although you go after the majority—you do not go after the majority to do injustice.  If it is unjust you oppose it, no matter what the majority consensus may be.

     How this relates is that it seems many in politics are too concerned about winning their side rather than considering the merits and flaws of their case.  It is well known a lot of laws get passed sneakily, as “riders”, inside of larger bills because many politicians do not ever truly read what they are expected to vote on.  A few aides read it, give them a synopsis of what they read, and that is all.  The proper politician, who wishes to do right, should read all of these bills. 

     For those who object due to size, I suggest that we require all bills to be read in full on the floor before they can be voted on.  That might eliminate the excessive size and the hiding of such “riders” as mentioned above.  I mean, in honesty, can you really make a sound judgment about a law you do not know in full?  I would say no. This reliance on some aide’s synopsis is like asking a doctor, with no knowledge of a patient’s history, to diagnose them based on their basic vital signs as recorded at admission.  Insane.  But that is roughly what the lawmakers are doing now.  They rely either on the aide, or—in a few cases—on how they are told by their party leaders to vote.

     So I suggest our lawmakers look at the bill themselves.

      But on top of that, in keeping with the principle espoused above, I suggest that rather than merely trying to win the “game” for their side, that they truly consider if what is set before them is in the interest of justice or not.  If it is unjust, in any way, they should oppose it.  If it is unjust but they feel a good idea is behind it, then they should set down with others and attempt to redo it in a way that the good is there but the unjust parts should be removed.  (Some bills this could be done with.  Others are predicated on an injustice and can only be trashed.)

     Like the founders, they need no acceptance of any religion—thought the principle was established in a religious text—to see the merit in the age-old ruling that you never go after the majority to do injustice.

The Question of Need...    


           I have been considering some of the evidence presented by different groups that support the idea that some deity is non-existent.  From the outset I will confess that I do not agree with that view.  But in considering the evidence presented I find a common theme.  While much has been written about discrepancies and contradictions in various sacred texts (this method has long been used to attempt to convince people any deity is an illusion), more of the scientific evidence focuses on the idea of need.  By which I mean it shows—through a look at the laws and such governing the physical universe—that there is no need for deity.

                This alone does convince some to turn away from any religion.  But it fails also to ask another question which comes to my mind.  Let us say we can show, via the laws of nature, there is no need for some deity to directly control or interact with the physical universe.  The question I have is how does that fact in any way support the idea that there is no deity at all?

                See, the focus on such illustrations derive—in a sense—from the idea of proving the contradictions in various religious teachings.  Since many religions, and especially the more primitive ones, made the functioning of various aspects of nature (sunrise, rain, etc.) as something directly controlled by some deity, then the opponent of such views hopes that by showing these processes occur without any direct influence from deity, they will thereby disprove the deity itself.

                There is a flaw in such thinking.  For one, the idea of the control of all aspects of nature being allotted to some supernatural agency is not completely universal.  Primitively, yes.  But over time, such a view has been upgraded in many cases. 

                To clarify, let me say I believe some deity literally moves—like a puppeteer—the planets in their orbit.  If you can show me that there are in fact testable laws that regulate this movement then you may be able to convince me my deity—or at least my concept of it—is flawed.  But what if that is not my belief in the first place?

                Let us now say that my belief from the start posits deity as a great engineer, so to speak.  I believe that the laws you show me, the motions of the planets and all, were part of a system set in motion by deity.  Similar perhaps to the Deist view of a universe created by deity but then left to run on its own within the parameters set.

                If such is my belief, then proving to me no deity controls the movement of the planets and such will in no way amount to a cause for me to think my belief in the existence of the deity is erroneous. 

                This in somewhat related, to an extent, with my view on materialists thinking the fact deity is not provable in any material way is sufficient cause to say it does not exist.  It is something, perhaps, to consider.  But it carries no sense of absoluteness as regards evidence either way.

                The flaw in their thinking is that the rules of evidence they apply are meaningless in the areas I am exploring.  The big demand for absolute, objective evidence does not exist in the very personal realm of religious experience and exploration.  All the scientific “proofs” opposing any deity are not going to faze me in the least if I have had numerous emotional, subjective experiences of the presence or power of deity.  All they will do is lead to what they have always led to; which is the consideration that the divine is beyond the physical and hence beyond our ability to test. 

As a result, I have never claimed I can prove deity.  But by the same token, despite their arguments, they cannot disprove it either.  They can only show evidence that may support or not support various teachings about the acts of deity, but nothing about deity itself.

                In the end, the universe may not need some deity to organize things.  But that fact alone in no way amounts to an absolute proof that deity may not still exist in some way. 

 

 

Why I am Not a Christian...


 Introduction

 

     This is not intended to be a deep, scholarly polemic.  I might write such later, but not now.  This is merely intended to present logical reasons for my position vis-à-vis religion.  This is particularly in regards to the dominant religion in this society, Christianity.

     I write this in part for the friends I have which are Christian, and some family, who ask me about such things.  Some of them have read this, and some may later on. 

     But it is also written for me, in part.  Writing often helps me solidify the thoughts in my mind and file them in some place where they are easy to recall.   This helps as I am not the greatest social speaker, so it helps to have prepared responses for a variety of questions.

     This is also not intended to be a missionary-type text.  By that, I mean this is not intended to change anyone’s mind, merely to present my own reasons for my position.  If one wishes to believe—with blind faith—whatever dogma they wish to follow, so be it.  But don’t then come to me and say you can prove that position via the various texts as a whole, as this will clearly show that you cannot.

     You can believe all you want.  You can make all sorts of convoluted justifications to explain away the things I have found, through study.  But you cannot prove it.

     I am a fairly analytical, logical, type, and blind faith based on cherry-picked verses and texts do not work for me.  It either makes sense as a whole, or not at all.

 

 

Opening

 

     It seems to me that many people who follow any particular belief rarely truly study their sacred texts as a whole.  Rather, they only study the parts that mean something to them, and maybe glance at passages that their minister tells them to support their belief.  However, they rarely read the whole of those passages to understand the context, and—in many cases—they certainly don’t make a lot of effort to compare various translations in the event they can’t read the original.

     I understand that that is the way we are essentially trained to think.  In many areas it is far easier—and sensible—for us to accept the word of authority than to try to completely reinvent the system.  Academics provide many examples of this.  Our physics would certainly not advance were we not willing to accept the axioms of earlier researchers and build on them, but instead attempt to recreate the system each time.

     But if a person has any spiritual leanings, then considering that this matter is of extreme importance—often of eternal importance—in many faiths it would seem that this would be an area in which they would make an effort to study in great depth for themselves instead of just blindly believing whatever they find written in some book, or what some minister tells them.

     As this is essentially a critique of Christianity, and an explanation of why I do not follow it, it should be noted that I am primarily discussing Christian or Christian-related faiths. 

     How many, for example, bother to try to compare the many variations of translations?  Beyond that, how many try to review the original languages of Greek and Hebrew and compare them with the translations?  Or even take down a Strong’s Concordance and attempt to compare where the same word is, perhaps, translated differently?

     There is much to cover here.  Far more than one can easily write in a short paper.  But I will select some of the parts that provide serious doubt and problems for belief and cover them.

     To make it easier to arrange, I will simply treat each area as an independent section, though they make a whole in the end.

 

Matthew’s Errors

 

     Perhaps a logical place to start is at the beginning of the primary Christian text, and that is Matthew.  However, what many may not realize is that Matthew is only first in Augustinian order.  Mark is actually the oldest of the gospels, and even then the letters of Paul are—in fact—the oldest of the New Testament texts, not the gospels.  The gospels were all written much later.

     Matthew slips up in many ways.  But it is not totally his fault. A little research shows that Matthew is held to have been a Jew, though an assimilated one, and therefore his knowledge of the things of Judaism was not likely much better than a basic Hebrew School one.  A little knowledge can be bad, especially when on is unwilling to admit that they don’t know what they don’t know.

 

     Matthew says, at the beginning (Matthew 1:1-17), that there were 14 generations from Abraham to David, 14 from David to the Babylonian exile, and 14 from then to the birth of Jesus.  If you count the names he gives in his genealogy you end up with 41.  14+14+14=42.  Not 41.  So he can’t count, obviously, though I will touch on genealogy later.

            Just as a side note, some say he wanted the 14 because of numerology.  Yes, numerology.  In numerology, 14 implies kingship.  Further, in Hebrew, every letter is also a number.  This has to do with King David.  In numerical value David, in Hebrew (daleth, vau, daleth), is equal to 14. So he was perhaps trying to provide some sort of mystical evidence to verify who this Jesus supposedly was.

     But once I get past that I keep reading.  But it only takes four more verses to run into another problem.

 

Matthew 1:22-23:

22. Now all this happened in order to make come true what the Lord had said through the prophet, (23) “A virgin will become pregnant and have a son, and he will be called Immanuel” (which means, “God is with us”).

 

Now a virgin giving birth is certainly incredible, but in the footnote it says that this prophecy comes from Isaiah 7:14.  So I dug it up.

 

14. Well then, the Lord himself will give you a sign:  a young woman who is pregnant will have a son and will name him ‘Immanuel’.

 

     You don’t see virgin mentioned here at all, but in many translations you will.  However, they add a footnote that explains that Matthew says “virgin” because he was using a Greek translation of Isaiah some 500 years later. 

     Now some may know that that would be the Septuagint.  Further, they may wish to claim that since the Rabbis translated the Septuagint that they knew what it meant. 

     Well, two problems on that claim.

     One, the word is alma, which in Hebrew is not a virgin.  Betulah is a virgin.  But in the Septuagint, the term is parthenos.  If you pull out your concordance and use the Greek dictionary it often has it will tell you parthenos can be either young woman or virgin.  In fact, it will tell you that the same term is used in Genesis 34:3 for Dinah after she was raped; therefore she was hardly a virgin.

     The other problem is that the Rabbis only translated the Torah proper into Greek, not the book of Isaiah.  That was not their doing.

     Okay, so maybe Matthew just made a simple mistake with his poor knowledge of Hebrew.  

     Also, if you read the whole of Isaiah 7 you will see the sign was for King Ahaz, therefore it could hardly have been about Jesus as such a birth would have not been capable of being a sign for Ahaz as he was long dead by then, and a sign is something that can be seen.

     Even more, Matthew says “a virgin” but the Hebrew is actually ha-almaThe young woman.  Definite article.  Meaning both Isaiah and Ahaz knew who was being discussed.  In this translation it also says he will be called Immanuel, yet the original says his mother will name him Immanuel.  Mary did not name Jesus as such.

     But now I’ll move on a little further.  Again, it did not take long to find another problem.

    In chapter 2 Matthew quotes a verse from Micah to prove that Jesus was supposed to come from Bethlehem.  Without arguing over why that was such a big deal to Matthew, I will simply tell you that he does not quote it correctly.  Let me provide both.

 

Matthew 2:6:

6. ‘Bethlehem in the land of Judah, you are by no means the least of the leading cities of Judah; for from you will come a leader who will guide my people Israel.’

 

Micah 5:2:

2. The LORD says, “Bethlehem Ephrathah, you are one of the smallest towns in Judah, but out of you I will bring a ruler for Israel, whose family line goes back to ancient times.”

 

     Now, Matthew says “not the least” and the original says ”you are one of the smallest”.  One of the smallest would be least. One may say they were not using exactly the same words.  However, this is still a manipulation of words, even in the translation of the original.

     Just to make this a little clearer, here is a more accurate rendering of the original. 

And you, O Bethlehem of Ephrath, least among the clans of Judah, from you one shall come forth to rule Israel for Me—One whose origin is from of old, from ancient times.      

 

     The word in the Hebrew that is often translated as smallest is not smallest at all in terms of size but is a derogatory term, in which least here means more in terms of “rank”, not size.  Bethlehem was far from the smallest town in Judah.

     So why did Matthew misquote the verse? 

     Then, a few verses later, Matthew tells us Jesus had to go to Egypt—fleeing from Herod—to fulfill the prophecy in Hosea. 

 

Matthew 2:15:

…This was done to make true what the Lord had said through the prophet, “I called my Son out of Egypt.”

 

But is that what it says?  Let us see.

 

Hosea 11:1:

  1. The LORD says, “When Israel was a child, I loved him and called him out of Egypt as my son.”

 

     So Matthew did not quite give us the whole.  But it is clear why.  This is talking about Israel, and it is about the past, not a prophecy for the future.

     Then we know in the story Herod dies and Jesus returns, but to Nazareth, not to Bethlehem.  Matthew again tells us this is prophecy.

 

Matthew 2:23:

            23. …And so what the prophets had said came true:  “He will be called a Nazarene.”

 

     As I looked I noticed there was no footnote with reference to a verse in the Bible elsewhere.  Why?  Because it is not there.  No such verse exists.  Matthew simply made this one up.

     So in just two chapters we can see many errors.  Some are mistranslation, some are misquotes, and some are using a verse out of context (a popular missionary technique which works well for those who do not know the texts and do not really care to study). 

     Then we suddenly see not misquotes or a contextual problems, but Matthew simply manufactures a verse to meet his needs.

     That is enough to tell me Matthew is flawed.  Not just simple mistakes, but obvious intentional lies.  It would be hard to truly believe that this was divinely inspired in any way.

     Just a note:  many scholars believe Matthew was written to a Jewish audience, and so—with his limited knowledge—he attempted to provide a lot of evidence from the Old Testament to prove his claim as he knew that the Jews would look to the Prophets for clues.  Unfortunately for him, Jews were well-educated in their own faith and found the errors quickly, so scholars note that Matthew was a failure, according to what few records we have.

     In contrast, Luke wrote to the Greeks, and as such they did not have a big interest in the Old Testament, nor the history of the Jews, therefore Luke had no need to throw in a bunch of scriptures to try to convince them, and he doesn’t.

     Now Mark, Luke, and John have flaws but not as obvious as these, and further many of their problems relate to the narrative between them, so I will move on to other topics.

 

Resurrection Flaws

 

Versions of the resurrection:

 

 Matthew 28:1-10…

1.  After the Sabbath, as Sunday morning was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

2.  Suddenly there was a violent earthquake; an angel of the Lord came down from heaven, rolled the stone away, and sat on it.

3.  His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow.

4.  The guards were so afraid that they trembled and became like dead men.

5.  The angel spoke to the women.  “You must not be afraid,” he said.  “I know you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified.

6.  He is not here; he has been raised, just as he said.  Come here and see the place where he was lying.

7.  Go quickly, now, and tell his disciples, ‘He has been raised from death and now he is going to Galilee ahead of you; there you will see him!’  Remember what I have told you.”

8.  So they left the tomb in a hurry, afraid and yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples.

9.  Suddenly Jesus met them and said, “Peace be unto you.”  They came up to him, took hold of his feet, and worshipped him.

10.  “Do not be afraid,” Jesus said to them. “Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee, and there they will see me.”

 

Mark 16:1-8…                                 

1.  After the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices to go and anoint the body of Jesus.

2.   Very early on Sunday morning, at sunrise, they went to the tomb.

3.  On the way they said to one another, “Who will roll away the stone for us from the entrance to the tomb?” (It was a very large stone.)

4.  Then they looked up and saw that the stone had already been rolled back.

5.  So they entered the tomb, where they saw a young man sitting at the right, wearing a white robe—and they were alarmed.

6.  “Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “I know you are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified.  He is not here—he has been raised!  Look, here is the place where he was placed.

7.  Now go and give this message to his disciples, including Peter:  ‘He is going to Galilee ahead of you; there you will see him, just as he told you.”

8.  So they went out and ran from the tomb, distressed and terrified.  They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid.

 

Luke 24:1-10…

1.  Very early on Sunday morning the women went to the tomb, carrying the spices they had prepared.

2.  They found the stone rolled away from the entrance to the tomb,

3.  so they went in; but they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.

4.  They stood there puzzled about this, when suddenly two men in bright shining clothes stood by them.

5.  Full of fear, the women bowed down to the ground, as the men said to them, “Why are you looking among the dead for one who is alive?

6.  He is not here; he has been raised.  Remember what he said to you while he was in Galilee?

7.  ‘The Son of Man must be handed over to sinful men, be crucified, and three days later rise to life.’”

8.  Then the women remembered his words,

9.  returned from the tomb, and told all these things to the eleven disciples and all the rest.

10.  The women were Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Mary the mother of James; they and the other women with them told these things to the apostles.

 

     Now these are the three Synoptic Gospels, leaving out John for the moment.  These three all are telling the same—supposedly—event.  But there are some differences that are hard to blame on translation errors and such.

     Let’s look at one difference.  Matthew says two women, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, went to the tomb.  This seems pretty clear.  But Mark says Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome were there.  If we allow that Mary and Mary the Mother of James are the same, fine.  But who is this Salome?  And why did Matthew forget her?

     Now add in Luke and you have Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James again, which is a match.  But now Salome has disappeared and been replaced by Joanna.  But wait, Luke goes further and refers to the “other women” with them.  So now we go from two women, to three women, to a potentially unknown amount of women.

     This is where the apologist will then say that Luke’s statement eliminates any problems, as Matthew and Mark may have just picked which ones to put out of the whole crowd, but it still seems kind of questionable.

     But leaving that, this resurrection is supposed to be a great thing, so one would imagine they could get the details right.  Now, some will say the discrepancies are because of different views being told.  As in a wreck, bystanders each have a different vantage point from which to view the accident and have a slightly different take on it. 

     So that is a problem here as the Gospel writers were not there to start with, and so all their writing in this department is hearsay, but also because the nature of events is so outlandish it is impossible to reconcile the contradictions, especially being that the first people there, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James in all three accounts, at least, are the same individuals.

     See, in Matthew an angel came down from heaven during an earthquake and rolled the stone away and sat on it.  The guards fell out.  He spoke to the women and sent them off.  Pretty clear statement there.  But, in Mark, when they arrived at the tomb (the same women plus one new mention) the stone was already rolled back and there was no mention of an earthquake.  The angel this time was already in the tomb when they entered. And no guards mentioned.

     It seems an earthquake is one of those things we would have trouble claiming would be different depending on point of view of the witness.  And further, the stone being moved by an angel who then sat on it versus the stone already moved and an angel already inside the tomb is another thing that cannot be so easily attributed to differing viewpoints. 

     Down at Luke we see he agrees with Mark in that the stone is already rolled away, but we now have two angels in the tomb instead of one.  But in concluding, while having two women in common with the others, he has now a whole unnamed crowd of women that the others must have missed.

     If one considers all this the “word” of God, and as many fundamentalists do, without any sort of error, then we have some problems.  You would think, in giving the story to the writers, God would at least keep the story straight.  It is noticeable that, despite being written over a much longer period of time, and much farther back in history, the “old testament” does not have anything near this level of variation in multiple accounts of single events.

     Further, if you finish reading Mark and Luke in whole, neither make mention of the women meeting Jesus and worshipping him.  Seems like a pretty big event to omit.

     These are the Synoptic Gospels, and they are believed to be of “one view”.  Yet we see, for all that, some differences are clearly there which are hard to eliminate by appeal to simple errors.

     But to give the full portrayal of the Gospels as a whole, let us now look to John. 

 

John 20:1-3…

1.  Early on Sunday morning, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been taken away from the entrance.

2.  She went running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and told them, “They have taken the Lord from the tomb, and we don’t know where they have put him.”

3.  Then Peter and the other disciple went to the tomb.

 

     I don’t need to go further here.  We go from a group of two women, then three, going to the tomb.  Now we have only one.  And further, no angel in this account, only an empty tomb.  And then she gets Peter and another disciple and they return to the tomb.  In the first two, the disciples never went to the tomb.  If you continue reading Luke he says Peter ran to the tomb and looked, but he was the only one (Luke 24:12).

     But John has another similarity.  Like Matthew, at least one of the women saw Jesus. Mary Magdalene, according to John, is outside the tomb and is crying when Jesus appears to her.  In this she realizes who he is finally, but he tells her, “Do not hold onto me.”  (John 20:11-17.)

     So we have two that claim women saw Jesus.  In Matthew, Jesus met “them”, which is plural.  And they grabbed his feet and worshipped him. But in John, only Mary Magdalene, singular, sees Jesus, and she is not allowed to touch him.

These become some rather damning discrepancies when viewed as a whole.  Imagine trying to present a case in court where your 4 witnesses had this much difference between them (never mind the fact that they did not directly witness it,  therefore it would be hearsay and not admissible in court to start with).  I think such a case would not get very far.

 

When Was Jesus Born?

 

     Okay, is this really a big deal?  Yes.  Because Matthew makes it a big deal that Herod tried to kill him so he had to go to Egypt to fulfill a prophecy.  On the other hand, Luke makes it an issue that he was born near the time of a census by the Emperor Augustus.

     So what is the problem here?

     Chronology

     If we read all of Matthew chapter 2 we notice a big deal made about how Herod wanted to kill the child, and they fled to Egypt, returning after Herod’s death, when Jesus was still a child.  Let’s be liberal and say as a child we say he was still around two years of age.

     Well, this whole account presents a problem.  What is it? 

     Herod died in 4 BCE.  So, if was allow that Jesus was only two when they returned, then that makes Jesus being born in 6 BCE.  Jesus was therefore born 6 years “before Christ”.  Kind of a problem if we say that the event which changed us from BCE to CE was the birth of Jesus; someone is counting wrong.

     Now in Luke it says that Jesus was born during the census, and during the census Quirinius was the governor of Syria.  Another chronological problem here.  When was Quirinius the governor of Syria? 

History tells us when this census took place. 

     The census by Quirinius the Roman governor was taken in 6 CE.  So by Luke, Jesus was born 6 years after the birth of Jesus if you consider the year 0 as being the division between before and after Christ.

 

Genealogy

 

     Now I come to the subject of genealogy, primarily because Matthew and Luke make such a big issue out of it.  Here is a list of the ancestors of Jesus.

 

Derived from Matthew 1:1-17:

1.         Abraham

2.        Isaac

3.         Jacob

4.        Judah

5.         Perez

6.        Zerah

7.         Hezron

8.        Ram

9.        Amminadab

10.       Nahshon

11.       Salmon

12.       Boaz

13.       Obed

14.       Jesse

15.       David

16.       Solomon

17.       Rehoboam

18.       Abijah

19.       Asa

20.      Jehoshaphat

21.       Jehoram

22.      Uzziah

23.      Jotham

24.      Ahaz

25.      Hezekiah

26.      Manasseh

27.      Amon

28.      Josiah

29.      Jehoiachin

30.      Shealtiel

31.       Zerubbabel

32.      Abiud

33.      Eliakim

34.      Azor

35.      Zadok

36.      Achim

37.      Eliud

38.      Eleazar

39.      Mathan

40.      Jacob

41.       Joseph

 

Derived from Luke 3:23-38:

1.         Abraham

2.        Isaac

3.         Jacob

4.        Judah

5.         Perez

6.        Hezron

7.         Arni

8.        Admin

9.        Amminadab

10.       Nahshon

11.       Salmon

12.       Boaz

13.       Obed

14.       Jesse

15.       David

16.       Nathan

17.       Mattatha

18.       Menna

19.       Melea

20.      Eliakim

21.       Joseph

22.      Judah

23.      Simeon

24.      Levi

25.      Matthat

26.      Jorim

27.      Eliezer

28.      Joshua

29.      Er

30.      Elmaddam

31.       Cosam

32.      Addi

33.      Melchi

34.      Neri

35.      Shealtiel

36.      Zerubbabel

37.      Rhesa

38.      Joanan

39.      Joda

40.      Josech

41.       Semein

42.      Mattathias

43.      Joseph

44.      Jannai

45.      Melchi

46.      Levi

47.      Matthat

48.      Heli

49.      Joseph

 

     It should be noted that Luke’s Genealogy continues all the way back to Adam.  However, for this comparison I have started them both at Abraham and went forward.

     Matthew claims in the final verse of the chapter that there were 14 generations from Abraham to David, 14 from David to the exile in Babylon, and 14 from the exile to Jesus.  Basic math.  14+14+14=42.  Yet, Matthew only lists 41.  But maybe that is too technical.

     Less technical is the fact that for the same time span Matthew lists 41 and Luke lists 49.  Which one is correct?  As this is simple comparison of numbers, both cannot be correct.

     Did Matthew miss a few?  Maybe.  Matthew was a Jew, and perhaps forgot to double-check his references, being sure of himself.  Luke, however, was a Gentile physician and, perhaps, more careful in his count.

 

Matthew has the following, yet Luke does not:

 Zerah

Ram

Solomon

Rehoboam

Abijah

Asa

Jehoshaphat

Jehoram

Uzziah

Hezekiah

Manasseh

Amon

Josiah

Jehoiachin

Abiud

Azor

Zadok

Achim

Eliud

Eleazar

Mathan

 

Luke has the following, yet Matthew does not:

Arni

Admin

Nathan

Mattatha

Menna

Melea

Joseph

Judah

Simeon

Levi

Matthat

Jorim

Eliezer

Er

Elmaddam

Cosam

Addi

Melchi

Neri

Joanan

Joda

Josech

Semein

Mattathais

Joseph

Mattathat

Heli

 

Quite a few are listed that are exclusive.  So, which ones do they have in common, out of all these listed?

Abraham

Isaac

Jacob

Judah

Perez

Hezron

Amminadab

Nahshon

Salmon

Boaz

Obed

Jesse

David

Shealtiel

Zerubbabel

Eliakim

Joseph

 

     And even the ones they share are interesting.  Hezron is 7 in Matthew and 6 in Luke.  Eliakim is 33 in Matthew and 20 in Luke.  Zerubbabel is 31 in Matthew and 36 in Luke, and so on.

     Another issue.   Look at Matthew.  Number 16 is Solomon.  Which is what is needed for determining the Messiah.  But in Luke it is Nathan.  For determining who the Messiah would be (tribe of Judah, house of David, through Solomon), Luke’s genealogy is worthless as it goes through Nathan, not Solomon.  Nathan is the wrong son for this purpose.

     Now some Christians say Luke is the genealogy through Mary, but Luke never says Mary is an ancestor of David.  Further, to determine one’s tribe you go by the father, not the mother, so that genealogy would be pointless.

     Further, there was a curse on the line of Jehoiachin, which is in Matthew’s list, that none of his descendants would ever sit on the throne of David again.  By that, if Jesus was through him, Jesus would be ineligible to be the Messiah.

     Now I know some may say these are minor details, or not that big a deal.   Too much focus on specifics.  But, if God inspired this and such one would think any mistakes would not be so obvious.  In fact, one would expect no mistakes, which is what fundamentalists claim.  No, what it seems we had here was a case where Matthew wrote one thing and Luke another and they were unable to call each other on the phone an make sure they had their stories straight.

 

Who’s Tribe?

 

     This question goes to genealogy as well, and the fact that the Messiah has to come from the Tribe of Judah, from the House of David, through Solomon.

     One of the major evidences of Jesus as the Messiah is that Jesus was from the proper tribe and house.   Now, despite their differences, this is what both genealogies are trying to verify; that this Jesus met those standards.  But Luke has a problem, as already noted in my view of the genealogies.

     We know from the Jewish texts that the determination of ones tribe and house is derived from one’s father.  One’s mother is used to determine who is a Jew, yes, but not whose tribe and house one is.

     But this is where it gets interesting.  According to Christianity, and Messianic Jews, Jesus had no human father, but was born of a virgin.  If he had no father, then his genealogy, linked to Joseph, is useless.

     However, to leave that for a moment, the Christian apologists say it counts because Joseph adopted him.  Okay, so Joseph adopted him.  But if that was the case, another problem comes up.  If genealogy is exactly as claimed, whether from adoption or bloodline, then the genealogy itself makes him unfit to be the Messiah.

     But why?  Well, all prophecy says that the Messiah will sit on the throne of David.

     See, according to Matthew Jehoiachin is part of Jesus’ genealogy.  But if that is the case, he is then ineligible to be the Messiah.  Why?

     Well, Jehoiachin was such a wicked king he was cursed by God.  In Jeremiah it is said, “He will have no descendants who will rule in Judah as David’s successors” (Jeremiah 22:30). 

     So if Matthew’s genealogy is correct, then Jesus is ineligible to be the messiah as he comes from a cursed lineage that can never sit on the throne of David.

     And proof of this is that Zerubbabel, one of his grandsons, who was righteous, was not king.  God made him governor, gave him authority, but because of the curse said he could not be a king.

     Now the apologists say this is why you need a virgin birth; to eliminate this problem.  But then, if the virgin birth is upheld and the genealogy thrown out, Jesus is still ineligible due to no longer being able to trace lineage to David’s house through his father.

     So what we have here is the adoption theory when it is convenient to have the genealogy, and the ignoring of genealogy and focus on virgin birth when it is not.  The problem is, either way, both make Jesus ineligible for the role of Messiah of prophecy as in one he cannot trace lineage to David’s house, and in the other the same lineage makes him unfit to be a king on David’s throne (which the Messiah will be) due to a curse.

 

The Suffering Servant

 

     Isaiah 53 is often used to support the messianic claim for Jesus.  All 15 verses.  Well, if you look at 53 you will say there are only 12 verses.  But, most accounts using this as a messianic argument start three verses before 53 and add 52:13-15.  Some Bibles actually put heading titles and often place a heading before 52:13 that usually says “the Suffering Servant.”

     Most claim that the suffering servant is Jesus.  But was it?  Well, to start, the original Hebrew texts did not have verse divisions, and would be read as a whole.  Therefore, our breaking up of chapters and verses actually can often break up context as well as make it easy to take a verse way out of context.

     But this is only one of 4 servant songs.  And can we find, perhaps, an identity for this servant in the original text itself, without trying to paste someone into it later on.

     Let’s look at Isaiah as a whole and see if the identity of this servant can be found therein.  Now, since this is one of four, it would seem Isaiah will likely clearly identify the servant early on, so let’s backtrack, remembering that the original was read as a whole.

 

Isaiah 44:1-2…

1.  The LORD says, “Listen now Israel, my servant, my chosen people, the descendants of Jacob. 

2.  I am the LORD who created you; from the time you were born, I have helped you.  Do not be afraid; you are my servant, my chosen people whom I love.”

 

Isaiah 44:21…

21.  The LORD says, “Israel, remember this; remember that you are my servant.  I created you to be my servant, and I will never forget you.”

 

Isaiah 48:20…

20.  Go out from Babylon, go free!  Shout the news gladly; make it known everywhere:  “The LORD has saved his servant Israel.”

 

Isaiah 49:3…

  1.  He said to me, “Israel, you are my servant; because of you people will praise me.”

 

     So it seems clear that the servant is not the future Jesus, but, from the context, the servant is the nation of Israel.

Furthermore, if 53 is about Jesus, something else is wrong.  The later part is basically a promise concerning what will become of this servant.

 

Isaiah 53:10…

10.  The LORD says, “It was my will that he should suffer; his death was a sacrifice to bring forgiveness.  And so he will see his descendants; he will live a long life, and through him my purpose will succeed.”

 

     Now, Jesus had no descendants to see.  And if you argue the church, they will say spiritual offspring, but the word used here in Hebrew refers only to biological offspring.  Further, he certainly did not live a long life.

     So this section is, again, a case of taking the text out of context to attempt to paint Jesus into it.

 

Born In Sin

     I shall finish with a very short look into the claim of why we need this Jesus in the first place.  Born in sin is a good start.  This is the belief that all mankind has inherited a sinful nature brought about by the acts of Adam and Eve.

 

Romans 5:19…

            19.  “For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners..."

 

     Punishing all people for the act of one is not only unfair but also opposed to other Biblical verses.

 

Ezekiel 18:20…

20.  "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

 

Deuteronomy 24:16…

16.   "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers :every man shall be put to death for his own sin." (2 Kings 14:6)

 

     So, obviously, the texts here just don’t agree.  I have written too much already, but enough to make my point, I think.  I have heard every Christological interpretation of these problems and all their arguments, but I do not have the time now to cover them all.

 

In Closing

     This is the result of much study.  I have read books by Jewish, Christian, and secular scholars.  I sat down with many Bibles and other texts and looked everything up.  In some cases, people pointed me in a direction, but I always did the checking myself.  Never take another’s word for it.

     These are merely a few things.  There are many more which I have found, though this is not intended to be a deep scholarly text, but a short and simple, logical, explanation of my view of things. 

But to give you a little more to consider, perhaps I will finish with a little information about my own search and history in this department.

 

***

 

     People have occasionally asked me what I believe.  The truth is that I believe very little in the way most of them use the term.  By which, I mean I do not believe that some form of doctrine is absolutely true merely because someone told me it was and maybe quoted one or two verses of some scripture.

      My mind has never worked that way.  I am very analytical, and like to look for logical reasons for things.  But in the reference to religion logic is, to most, kind of misplaced.  By strict logic, the belief in any sort of deity is illogical.  But, what most do not realize it that the belief that there is no deity at all is also illogical.  The most logical view, by strict rules of logic, would be the agnostic view, in which you say, “I do not know.”

     Despite this, agnostics are a much smaller group than atheists or believers of any kind.  Humans are not known for logic.  However, I think it goes beyond that. 

     Humans do not like the idea of an unknown.  We always are looking for the how and the why of the universe around us.  We want to know things.  The unknown is annoying, in some way, to our curious minds.  So we usually look over the information available—side with one group or another—and then claim that this is what we “know”.

      However, a second factor comes in here.  This factor relates more to how people arrive at their beliefs.  The majority of beliefs held by individuals are rarely based on their own personal study, in depth, of any subject, but rather they hold their belief because their ancestors did, or because someone they viewed as having authority told them to.

     This second factor is that we are social creatures.  We seek, usually, to find some group, usually small, to belong to.  On the simplest level, this is our family.  We want to belong, and be accepted.  So, what do we do?  Well, one of the easiest ways to be accepted by the group is what?  To hold the same views as they do.    

           This may be religious views, or political views, etc.  In general, most simply have a belief because it was taught to them—they were told that this is the right way to do things because their parents do it, and their grandparents did it, and so on.

     On a larger level, we are most likely, despite some rebellion in adolescence, going to follow a view that is espoused by the majority of our social group as a whole.

     Being curious, and not one to just accept others claims, I began to research many beliefs around the world.  I became involved in Asatru, Native Shamanism, Paganism, Taoism, Wicca, Zen, and many others.  I had experiences and such that convinced me there was more to the world than just what was visible, so I did not lean to the atheist camp, though I did quite a bit of study of the sciences, and still do.

     I would posit many people never really question their beliefs as they do not want to risk being ostracized by the group that they have grown up in.  They are afraid, if only subconsciously, of being rejected by their social group and—even worse—their family.

     I have always been an outcast of sorts, and did not quite have the same interest in belonging to a group that most do, so it was not as hard for me there.

     Despite that, I wrote a letter when I was much older to my father.  My father, for part of his life, had been a Christian minister.  So I wrote and told him clearly that I did not follow his views and couldn’t believe it all as he did.

     He wrote me a letter.  It was the last letter he wrote before he died.  In this letter he did not preach to me, nor did he tell me to be a Christian, or threaten me with Hell.

     In the letter here is what he said when I told him I questioned it all:

 

Son that is the way that we were made.  To be at peace with ourselves and God is what counts in this life.  And for that, life and all that goes with it, has to be real to us personally.  It has to be what we believe in our own hearts.  Not mom’s, dad’s, or anyone else’s, but our very own.  So son, I say, build your future on what you know in your heart to be true.  And as for what you do in life such as work, life, religion, be happy in what you are doing or don’t do it.  So much for advice on life from an unexpert.”

 

     Now while I rarely cared what my parents thought of what I was doing, this stuck with me. 

     Why am I not Christian, being as how my father was a minister and I was raised around it?  That I will explain, but only in part.  What I mean by that is that I would have to write a novel to list every single factor that made me what I am. 

     The easiest thing is to point out that I studied it more in depth than most.  I have had almost every variation on the Bible, and then I acquired the JPS Tanakh.  I decided who would better know how to translate Hebrew than people for whom it is a native tongue.

     For those who’d like to do similar research, a good Concordance and Interlinear Bible are helpful.

     I should start by saying that the variety of translations also made me question things.  I understand that many say that they just update the English, but comparison will show it does more than that.  Furthermore, the King James now is not the same as the 1611 King James.  Many years ago (1911)  they reprinted it based on the 1611 plates, and you can find it at most religious bookstores.  Many of the changes are punctuation, but, in English, a change of punctuation can completely change the meaning.

     Yet, if you go, say, to any Synagogue the Torah scroll is the same.  Reform, Conservative, Orthodox does not matter.  The scroll will be the same.  That fact is interesting when the fundamentalist Christian will say the Bible is without error, but in a Christian Bible there are many, and in a Torah there are none.  In fact, if a Torah has a mistake, it is closed up and sealed with a ring to mark it as an invalid Torah.  But if the change is done intentionally you have to burn it.  This is a book that if you drop it you fast for forty days, but if one change is intentionally made it has to be burned.

     Compared to the old, I can find many places where the new misquotes the old.  But, I do not find that in the old.  After much study, it is clear that one is right.

     A corollary is that the old can be true and the new false, but the new cannot be true and the old false.  This is due to one basically feeding off the other.  Yet the new clearly changes and errs as regards the old, so the conclusion is that the old is true and the new is false.

 

***

 

     So I finally close here.  One other small thought came to me as I was writing all this.  Many I think do not wish to question their beliefs as those beliefs are what they were raised with.  It is psychological.  I think, on a subconscious level, they fear finding out they are wrong.  Not because of themselves, but out of a dread of what might be happening to their relatives and friends if they are wrong.

     Since most here come up with the Christian ideal, all those who are “wrong” are going to suffer in some eternal Hell.  Therefore, they have a fear of finding out they are wrong, not so much for themselves, but for those around them.

This is not a problem in my case as Talmud clearly shows that the righteous of all nations have a place in the world to come, and the idea of Hell—as Christians present it—is foreign to it.

     But I think this indeed may be a reason those that do question often simply become more atheistic rather than join a new faith.  It is easier to think that there is nothing than to imagine all your relatives are wrong and now in some Hell (for which fear Christianity is primarily to blame).

     But if you have questions, get a Concordance, a couple of Bibles, a few foreign dictionaries, a good Tanakh, and some time.  Research it for yourself rather than just accepting the cherry-picked verses the missionaries of any religion dangle in front of you. 

     Make up your own mind based on your own studies and power of critical thinking.

     That is all.

 

Finis


Dealing with Materialists...


    I have recently had some amusing discussions with many ignorant scientific types.  This amuses me as they often insist on debating an area that neither of us will ever change our minds in.  I say that in jest, but I also note I say they are ignorant, not stupid.  Big difference.  They are usually very intelligent, as the modern world reckons intelligence.  But to their minds, if they do not reckon a thing to exist—based on their method of determining “reality”—then it must not be, and those who think otherwise are deluded.  Ignorance is simply not knowing, and what they do not know is what they cannot see.

     Of course, the fun debate here is essentially religion versus science.  Now I do not specify religion, as—to them—all are equally deluded.  Jewish, Buddhist, Taoist…it does not matter.  The fact that they believe there is more than what the eye can see or instruments can measure means they are obviously deluded.

     Ah, the joys of materialists. 

     Of course, what of the things we cannot see but have power?  I could mention gravity.  We do not see gravity, only its effects.  With instrumentation we can measure it, however.  Okay.  What of less external things.  Love?  Hate?  Of course the materialists will say that you can trace certain receptors and chemicals in the brain in these and show they have a physical existence.  But is that adequate?  I say no.  I have talked to many who study human psychology and even the more scientific ones often allow that there seems to be something about the force we call love, or hate, that seems more than the sum of all the little neuro-physical pieces put together.

     But such arguments, as noted, will not sway either side.

     I am not trying to sway them; merely to point out why not everyone follows their scientific dogma.  (It is not about intelligence—as in the idea religious people are just dumb—as I had an IQ of 136 at 13, nor delusion, as no psychiatrist would classify me as such.) 

     Say what you will, much of scientific “fact” is nothing but inference from evidence available.  Sometimes it is accurate.  Sometimes it is not.  Inference is the product of a man’s mind and to me is no more valid than any other opinion.  With sufficient evidence, it may be more valid.  But until you can show me the “smoking gun”, some of the most cherished scientific creeds will remain no more than that to me.  If you want to change the world, so to speak, you better have absolute proof, not just limited evidence combined with inference.                                       

     I can’t show you any deity either.  The difference is—and I admit not all religious people are as open-minded about it—I do not tell you that you should abandon all science and join my school of religious thought.  Personally, I don’t care.  It is not my job to make the world follow anything. 

     I have studied science.  A lot over the course of my life.  Being on the spectrum, I tend to think more literally at times than some and take more effort to grasp some of the more abstract ideas of religion and philosophy.  But—unlike the stereotype—I am not incapable of grasping them.  (If we were, there would be no religious people on the spectrum at all, which is certainly not the case.)

     You know, just to play the game a little, I understand physics.  I understand the idea of evolution.  My question is in what way does evolution—let us say it did happen in some form—mean there is no creative power?  It doesn’t.  I had a friend—a Jewish physics professor—who believed absolutely in evolution.  But he still believed in a Creator.  To him, evolution was simply “God’s assembly line”, in which he equated God to a great engineer who would, reasonably—like our engineers—find a way to make his own work, so to speak, easier.  Design the “factory”, start the “assembly line”, and go take a coffee break.  Come back after a short nap and have a new toy to play with.

     Now, to me, science actually has the same problem as religion.  Religion has no answer to where did the Creator come from?  Science does not either.  We can go with theory and observation to milliseconds after the Big Bang, but not before.  So, where did this matter, or energy, that caused this bang come from?  There is no verifiable answer.  All they can say at most is it must have always been there.  Just like religion saying God is eternal.

     The point is, to the believer of any religion, there is nothing about science that automatically precludes a creative power.  The majority of claims of those using the scientific argument against religion are that this creative force is not what the texts say, therefore it cannot be real.  I mean, one said the Bible literally described angels and heaven as in the sky so why can’t we find them?  In other words, it is all about literal interpretation, which makes them bad as most fundamentalists.

     This shows foolishness on their part.  They are so materialistic, they cannot see beyond a literal view of anything.  Those who study, for example, Torah, could tell you that a majority of its real message and meaning is neither literal nor obvious.  The Torah, the text we know, is only an outer form to allow the simplest of minds to at least touch a part of it.  But it contains much more that is hidden under the outer covering.

     Of course, these arguments do not work then either.  They will say that if we allow God, angels, or such are of a substance beyond the physical, then we have simply made an excuse to keep them from being able to prove or disprove it.  Sorry, but from all the science and philosophy I have read, I have long been of the opinion science will never absolutely prove or disprove the question of a God.  Further, some scientists have held—correctly—that that should not really be their concern anyway. 

     Science is to study things it can see and interact with and things that matter on the physical level.  Religion and philosophy is for the abstracts which cannot be seen or studied as such and which matter on a deeper level.

     Finally, they place such value on what they can touch and go show their friends they seem to forget that, on some level, personal experience will always be more powerful for the majority than anything else.  Our perception is our reality.  If I meditate and see angels and talk to spirits, regardless of your claims, the experience will be my reality and nothing you show me will change my opinion of it.

Of course, why should it?  As many occultists once noted—even if the spirit is only a projection of your own mind—if you get the results you are after, who cares? 

     In the end I just throw this out as a rough statement of why this is often a pointless debate between the two sides.  I believe science.  I know a lot of it.  But it will never change my personal beliefs.  On the other hand, my personal experiences will never change those who have not had them. 

     I will simply sit back and take it all in, knowing it is an endless debate in which neither side will ever absolutely prove its claims.

 

                What am I looking for?

                That is a good question, and may avoid problems later to clarify the answer.

                I am not looking for a “play pal”.  I am not after a fuck-buddy. 

                I have had girlfriends in the past—long ago—and I was married once. 

                I want to get to know someone a bit before I do anything. 

                I do not rush much.  I was friends with an old girlfriend years ago for about a year before we actually did anything of the sense of a relationship.

                It does not have to be so long; merely making it a point I am not after a short, casual fling.

                I am looking for a more permanent partner.

                I am too old—in my mind—to be hopping all over.

                I like some degree of stability anyway.

                It is also good to read my stuff to know more in depth about me.  While it seems nice, there needs to be some similarity and similar interests for anything to work.  I learned long ago if the only thing we share is an interest in anime, or video games, it doesn’t make for much of a lasting relationship.

                If you read all the notes and essays and such I post on here and are interested, just send a message.

                Little by little I add notes and other little pieces of information to try to paint a picture.  The picture is a more complete representation of what I am as a whole.  However, it is often hard to do.  The palette does not always seem to have the right colors.  So I piece things together in hopes of creating a fairly accurate portrait.

                My initial posts here did not give a lot of personal information.  Of course, I guess it is a question as to how much is relevant or not.

My thoughts on a variety of subjects, as I write of in my notes, portray the mentality better than any medical description would.  However, I guess it would not hurt to give a little physical background to go along with those posts.

                I will be 33 this month.  I am 5’8” and about 200 pounds.  Hair and eyes are brown.  Skin tends to kind of a darker tint, not pinkish, though I am Caucasian by definition.  Sometimes I shave more, sometimes less.  I have never been vain.  Appearance has never been all that important to me.

                At 18 I had back issues which left me with some medical problems.  Partial incontinence being one of them.  Later, at 28, I had a Pacemaker implanted..  Physically, I am fairly strong despite all that and in good shape all things considered.

                Mentally, I am highly intelligent.  High IQ and all that good stuff.  That of course does not necessarily mean I am great at everything else.  I am diagnosed as having an Autism Spectrum Disorder known as Asperger’s Syndrome, and I have dealt with therapy and all pretty much all my life.  Of course, I don’t need to explain that the stereotypes of autistics are just that: stereotypes.  They are far from accurate.  The only major issues I have, perhaps, with it is some anxiety, a hypersensitivity to sound, and the fact I am not a social butterfly. 

                In terms of what we might call spiritual views, I have my own beliefs.  Some based on the traditions I followed, and some of my own.  My mind does not allow for orthodoxy to dominate anything.  My beliefs are—even if based on existing traditions—formed completely by my own analysis of the material I have to work with.  I am not obsessive about being right in such matters as logic tells me none of it can be proven in any absolute way and we all may just be delusional.  So I am more open-minded than some.

I have done fairly well in life so far.  I am not rich.  In fact, I am quite poor now.  I was doing well with work until the Pacemaker.  With everything put together, I currently have a case in court for disability.  I am also going to college.  I will probably go back this fall if all the paperwork comes out right this time.

I am something of a scholarly type.  I would likely go to school just to do it if I were interested in a subject.  I want to know as much as possible, though my logical mind lets me know how much I do not know as well as how much I will likely never know in depth due to time and other limitations.

So that is a little more about me.

 

 

                Age play and diapers.

                Two things that—at one time—I would have perhaps shunned as my knowledge and thoughts about them were probably the same as most “normal” people would have.

                However, due to events in my life, I became more familiar with them, if only as a coping mechanism at first.

                At 18 I had some back problems.  The end result was—for a few months—I had no feeling from the waist down.  I and my girlfriend then lived together.  With no feeling I was, obviously, in need of diapers.

                I was not happy at all.

                In an effort to cheer me up, perhaps, my girlfriend put a diaper on and came in to see me.  She said she’d wear them as long as I did.

                She did it I think to make me feel better about it.

                Of course, I recovered feeling, though some nerve damage left me partially incontinent. 

                As I recovered feeling we became more involved in sexual play, and she often still had on a diaper and had me “change” her. 

                A little while of this and it essentially became a sort of kink between us.

                Then, later on—years later—a therapist I saw even suggested maybe I try to make a game out of some of the issues I had, and mentioned the whole AB/DL thing, in order to better cope with the stress from it at times.

                So that is how it started.

                Now I am not an AB.  I can be cuddly and like to cuddle and have a few childlike behaviors, but my dominant personality, perhaps, does not like being babied, unless I’m sick.  (Like most men.)  But I still think a girl in a diaper is cute and don’t mind playing “Daddy” for the scene.  Of course, even without the age-play part it is erotic for me.

                I have been thinking some.  Politics and religion.  Two things that may influence each other, but that I feel should not be combined in a way that seems to say our social contract is strictly based on a certain group’s theology.

                I am aware some of our Founders were Christians in the traditional sense.  Some were also Deists. 

                They did, in fact, gather some ideas of law from the Bible.  Mostly were from the Old Testament, as that deals more with law than the New.  The idea of the law applying equally to all classes, for example, is a Judaic one. 

                Even Jesus seemed aware that to an extent the social laws of nations and the laws of God were not always meant to be mixed.  “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s, and unto God that which is God’s.”

                (I am using Biblical reference here as it is what most who read this will be familiar with.)

                Am I saying we are wrong to get ideas in what constitutes ethical behavior from our religion?  No.  But I am saying some of those categories apply only in the religious domain and not in the secular one.

                The truth is, were humans logical, we would need little force to uphold decent law.  Logic is we avoid things that may harm us.  So, by logic, a man would not go around robbing on the simple premise that eventually they will run into armed resistance, someone stronger, etc., which will cause them harm or discomfort.

                When I look at laws, I know those which are truly logical will stand without needing external support, such as Divine mandate.  Those which have no such logic belong in the religious realm, not the secular one.

                Now the Jews always knew this to a degree, which is why they were—and are—not a missionary religion.  A majority of their laws are for them and them alone.  Others, like thou shalt not murder, which is one of the Noachide laws applied to all mankind, falls under the logic group.

                They have power and make sense in and of themselves.

                Not to say logic may not require breach of law at times.  If you are starving, logic says—if no other option—better to steal food than die.  The Jews also knew this and had exceptions.  One old Judaic exception is that a man who steals for hunger is not to be despised, but if caught is to pay back.  Restitution was in use far more than stoning, and many do not realize this.

                Or if attacked, you may have to kill.  They provided for that as well.

                My point is by focusing too much on making it seem our national laws are some sort of Divine mandate (which they are not), only causes strife and alienation.  Many would agree even to some of the religiously inspired laws, and only oppose them simply because they are crammed down their throats as being religious.  Whereas, if you’d provide the logic behind them without appeal to Divine influence, there would be more support.

                An example.  Though many religious texts do not approve of homosexuality, there is no logical reason to do so.  There may be a theological one, perhaps, but not a logical one that benefits all.  Therefore, in the end, I don’t care what you do sexually, among consenting adults.  That is your business and no deity made me judge.

                Our religions may give us morals.  We may use them to influence our idea of what should be allowed, or not.  But we should avoid trying to place them on others simply because our religion says so. 

                Essentially, if a law I follow has no logic that could apply properly to society at large, I see no need to try to make in a national law.  If it does benefit all, regardless of their religion (which may not be the same as mine) then it is fine to try.

 

                To start, my given name is not Lief Stigandr.  However, Lief is part of it.  My given name at birth was Christopher Lief Eldridge.  I was adopted at 18 months, so that changed.  I do not list my current surname primarily because many in my family have privacy concerns.  Many in my family are also on Facebook, but not under their full names.  Also, I use Lief as most people outside my family do not know me as Christopher.  That has been intentional on my part, for my own reasons.

                But why the odd name?  Well, Lief was given, but Stigandr is actually a descriptive you might say.  Stigandr comes from Old Norse and roughly translates as “wanderer”.  In fact, Stigandr was one of the descriptive names given to the Norse god Odin.  For me it is descriptive, but not so much in the sense one might think.  Physically, my wanderings have been within a limited area.  It is, for me, more reflective of the nature of my mind and my curiosity.  I am a seeker, of sorts, compiling information from many fields I wander in to—art, law, medicine, philosophy, religion, etc.

                Of course, this is not to say I am an expert in anything.  Like all humans, my view is always limited by my current knowledge as well as tempered by an understanding of the things I may never truly know in any logical way.  Religion is one of those areas that gets heavily tempered as—regardless of what I may believe—the chance we will ever be able to truly test in any scientific way they existence of a spirit, a god, etc., is non-existent.  Of course, I am reminded of a physics professor who told his class that all the scientific speculation about any deity was pointless anyway due to the fact that—if there is such a being, and our descriptions of it are remotely accurate—it would be impossible to set up the needed control group to run any scientific test.  I am fairly logical, but I accept science has the limit to test what it can in fact hold and examine.  Any claims made of that which cannot be held or examined are speculation.

 

Clarity of Language

 

                Clarity of language.  It is a good thing, no?  We depend on the inherent clarity of our words to convey to others our meanings.  The things we are interested in, what we believe, and so on. 

                But is it as clear as we think? 

There was a time when the answer would have certainly been “yes”.   But today it is not as clear.  Let us consider something rather normal.  “I like eggs.”  Now if you had said this in 1940, there would have been no debate about what you were saying.  But today, it is not as clear.  Are we talking chicken eggs, quail eggs, ostrich eggs, etc.?  Free-range, Yard, Organic, Grade A? 

                Fortunately, this is an area where the generic assumption will—in most cases—prove sufficient.  Other situations are not as clear.  Some of our words which once had a clear and limited meaning now have a broad and vague one.  The dialectical usage, and slang, further complicates this. 

                If I go to London and ask someone for a fag, they will likely give me one.  (Of course our British relatives, so to speak, bemoan our spelling and usage anyway, but that is a different subject.)  Now if I walk into a bar in America and ask for a fag someone will likely say, “There’s one sitting in the corner.” 

                For those who are very literal about language, for those with problems understanding social nuance—such as those on the autistic spectrum—this will be even more confusing. 

                While out of usage now, an example, related to the above, would be the once common usage of calling a homosexual person a “fruit”.  Now if you told a literalist this they would be confused.  “Mike doesn’t look like an apple to me.” 

Admittedly, time has had some effect on this, as has the expansion of our knowledge in general.

                In 1880 if you said man in London was an occultist he would have immediately been assumed to be a member of a group like the Golden Dawn, a Mason, or a Rosicrucian.  Very limited, and generally correct.  If you call a man that in the modern world the list of what he might actually be involved in is much larger. 

                Local dialect and slang, as noted above, has also affected this. 

                I originally started writing this as a warning of sorts to those who deal with literalists, or with those who have social issues that make communication a problem.  But as I consider this topic, as a whole, I think it really—in modern times—must be applied to all communication.  Do not assume, if you use slang or other similar expressions, that the other person totally understands your message.  Also, do not assume you know the other person’s message either unless you are certain you are both on the same page, so to speak. 

                A better rule would be, in all cases where a term’s meaning may be broad and vague, to pick another term.  Learn to specify.  Be sure that the message you put forth is a clear as possible so that all can understand what is meant.  This is especially true when dealing with those with flaws in their social understanding, but is helpful for all.

                We can’t change what has been done to language but we can change our usage to be as clear and concise as possible. 

 

 

 

       The relatively unknown Christian mystic San Juan de la Cruz (St. John of the Cross) wrote of the Dark Night of the Soul.  A time—I think—when all we are taught, all we believe, all we accept as good or true, comes into question.  I think this comes for those like my self—those with a lot of curiosity and a broad range of academic knowledge—when we reach the point where the fact of what we do not know versus what we do know (or think we know) becomes very clear. 

                If we are raised in a certain political, religious, or social environment then that is what we tend to take for granted—as a given.  But as we accumulate more information, more experience, some of it does not seem so clear anymore. 

                Many people, admittedly, never go through this in the manner I am referring to.  Most never truly want to question anything, as we are creatures of habit, and we prefer complacency to the struggle and change created by such thoughts.

                Of course, external factors often weigh in on how deep a person may carry these thoughts as well.  As an example, the Christian minister, when I say I think he has some flaws in his theology, jumps up and down and tells me I’m going to Hell.  For many, that is all the encouragement they need to drop the subject.  Not for one like myself.  Of course, I find Rabbis more tolerant in this area.  In fact, one friend who is a Rabbi had made it clear long ago that, due to the unique way my mind seemed to work, I’d likely never just “settle” into something because of upbringing or tradition.  Rather, if I ever truly settled, it would likely be after I was old, with a lot of experience and information to consider.  Unlike the Christian minister, there was no admonition for such thoughts or interests.  Rather a note that we all have to find our own way in the end for it to mean anything.

                My adopted father also wrote me—in the last letter he wrote before he died—that every man has to find God in their own way, and it has to be what they find meaningful to them, not what their parents or ministers or friends find meaningful or true.

                Those with experience with individuals on the autistic spectrum will understand what I mean when I say that, “because I said so” is never an acceptable answer or one that will have much impact.  In a religious sense, those familiar with Eastern religions will understand this more as well.  Buddha, despite what many think, never asked to be worshipped.  Buddha was not a deity, he was more an example.  Buddha said to read it, study it, and to go try it.  If it did not seem true, or did not work for you, get rid of it.  Don’t accept it on his say so alone.   Western religions, predominantly Christianity and its offshoots, are more heavily based on acceptance.

                It is your belief—your acceptance of dogma—that gets you into Heaven in generic Christian theology, not your deeds.  The focus is on the when, where, and who instead of the what.  In the East it is on the what.  What you do is what counts, not what you think or believe.

                Judaism is the interesting sect here in that most think of it as Western, though it is not.  In Judaism, faith is something of a non-issue.  Unlike Christian theology that says we all die because of Adam’s sin, Judaism says every man dies for his own sin.  It has nothing to do with Adam.  Also, much like Eastern religion holds your acts color your destiny through karma, Judaism holds you are also rewarded for your own merits, not another’s.  There is no vicarious atonement.

                An easy way to put it is to say most big religions today are focused on the external structure and dogma, whereas both Judaism and most Eastern systems focus on internal experience and acts of the individual.

                So I am on that particular path now, I guess.  I have studied, and practiced, many religions apart from those of my family.  Due to family I, of course, have a greater knowledge of both Christianity and Judaism.  But I have also delved into Asatru, Hermeticism (Western Ceremonial Magick, heavily colored by the Kabbalah), Native American Shamanism, many Neo-Pagan systems, Taoism, Wicca, and Zen, as well as a few others not listed directly but in the flavor of the above.

                At one point one could say I dug up my family tree and made it a point to study the historical religions associated with each strand of my genetic makeup.  Perhaps I was influenced by Carl Jung’s idea of a collective unconscious.  Some, however, were introduced by others.  It was a psychiatrist, making note of some of my mental interests, who suggested I might like to look into Zen.

                At this point now, considering all this, I find it impossible to stand by any dogmatic theological view 100%.  I support those I have belonged to still, and still hold to some of the standards.  But I do not feel right to say I am purely this or that, as—at this moment—my identity in that regards has become very fluid.

                I also changed my profile for a similar reason, in that I do not want to be held up as an example of a particular religion for others, as some of what I do now might be offensive to those in the same religion.  Some systems are less stringent on this.  There is a Cherokee Medicine Man who publically teaches their traditions, holds their ceremonies, etc., but privately practices Buddhist meditation.  Their system is not so judgmental, and if he thinks that helps him in some way, no one cares.  But not all systems are as open-minded.

                As a warning, perhaps, to those who know me otherwise, preaching to me will change nothing.  The concern is nice.  I do not—and never have—believed in Hell anyway, but as I told some Christian ministers once, I’d rather go to Hell on my own than following you.

                Perhaps it is the curse of being overly intelligent, or of being on the autistic spectrum.  I don’t know, and don’t really care.  All I can do is keep researching and enjoy the ride.

     I find the idea of just alphabetically listing things one is interested in to be sort of misleading.  That sounds fine, until we realize how broad some of these terms provided are.  I also find the use of trying to define experience or level of knowledge to be vague.  Some may think they have a deep knowledge of a certain area only to learn later they do not.  For some it is often a case of they know all they find out at a time, where they are.

     As an example, you can check “occultist”.  That would be a rare one for most (though not for me).  However, it still remains a very generic term.  As an example, say some person is big in Hermeticism (Western Ceremonial Magick, often influenced by the Kabbalah).  They decide to mark “occultist”, and list knowledge as “expert”.  A little while later someone comes along and sees this person’s profile and thinks they could be good friends or such because they also are listed as an “expert occultist”.  All sounds good, until they start trying to talk.  See, the second person is a Taoist, with a very advanced knowledge of Tai Chi, Tantra, and Yoga. 

     Can you see the problem now?

     The terms provided by many of these social sites are too vague to have much use.     Some, as I have said, are clearer than others.  But the point is one should not assume because we both have an interest in a certain fetish, hobby, philosophy, political movement, religion, etc., that we possess an equal knowledge of them, or that we are even on the same particular track as regards the more generic listings.

     Further, I may list something as a kink, but have a completely different view of its usage than the generic one.  As to some sites that ask you to list them as whether you “like it, or love it, or couldn’t live without it”, well I don’t follow that.  There is nothing I could not live without, if I had to.  I say in most things I like them.  I am flexible and experimental, and unless I actually have experience with something—or it just really goes against personal sensibilities—I list nothing as a dislike.  Now, if I try it and don’t like it, then yes.   But if one is interested, one should take time to find out more about people as their interests—both sexual and everyday—may be quite different than the image we hold of the same for ourselves.

     So do not assume because I have a certain kink listed means I am on exactly the same level as anyone else, or even that my interest there is the generic one.  And the idea of listing a level of knowledge to me is kind of foolish, as I know a lot about some aspects of the fetish world that I have never done, and there are others I have done that I know little of the background behind them.

     Perhaps the best thing to do, if interested, is ask.

 

 

 

                I have been here before.  On this site and many like it.  I have used many names.  Over time I have had the chance to meet a few people from these sites.  I have also had time to think about these sites as well as life in general.

                I have interests, like many.  Some are “normal” and some are more exotic.  But I have found, after much observation of these sites, that that is only part of a whole.  I am more than the hobbies I have, more than an occupation, and more than whatever kinks I may have. 

                I feel, after much consideration, that many of the failures of people on these sites happen because people fail to take that into account.  By this I mean too many often seem to try to build a life, a relationship, around one thing.  As an example, this—to me—is like saying I like leather and you like leather so let’s get together.  To make the comparison on a more “normal” level, it would be like saying we both like the color blue so that means we should get married.

                Think about it.  Silly, isn’t it?

                But that is often what I see on so many of these sites.  Not just those strictly devoted to dating, but even to those of a more social nature, such as Facebook.  In reality, if all we have in common is an interest in video games—for example—we are likely to get tired of each other relatively quick. 

                It is for this reason my posts on here are not—will not be—strictly about what kink I may like or fantasy I have.  They will cover many areas. 

                I am rather intellectual, and have quite a bit of academic skill.  If you saw me, however, merely as my prior occupations—if you made the error of identifying me with my work, as many do to themselves—you would never see that.  I have been a beekeeper, construction worker, delivery driver, short order cook, etc.  None of those occupations make you think of deep intellectual interests or philosophical leanings.  But I have those, and I have done those things.

                I guess the simple way of saying what I am trying to above is to state that my posts are intended to show my self—my personal being—as a whole rather  than as a particular kink, occupation, social group, etc.

                The human personality is one thing that has always been far more than just the sum of its parts.

 

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