I guess I should say something more about me that click this and drop down window that. I am always looking for a sub, now here is to say I am not sexual with all my subs. I have trained subs/slaves. I am getting better. I am always learning something new. I am a Sadist and Masochist. I don't mind playing with other tops for pain. But thats about my limit when I play the sub role. Though I am dating more for the sexual aspect and training is going slow. I would rather have the sub/slave whom I can train to give me what I need when I need to fulfill my masochistic side.. Thats part of what I am looking for...