NOTE: We will NOT respond to people that have empty profiles or people that send one line responses! Read our entire profile carefully fully before saying hello and only say hello if you have something of substance to say and you are local! I/we don't care how submissive you are, if you send a one line response, you will be ignored! Even submissive's have brains and imaginations (hopefully), and they should use them.

***UPDATE: Finding someone to be with sexually is not my (our) main focus here…friendship is. My wife is highly cautious (and vanilla), so I am here to weed out the flakes in the hope that I can find ONE guy (or couple) that I can get along with, and that he is compatible with us on ALL levels and that compatibility and friendship is his first focus. If/when I sense that I've found a true friend, I will then introduce him to her in the hopes that we will all become friends....and of course a lot more!***

YOU: We are looking for a single, intelligent, successful, outwardly normal looking/acting middle aged guy around our age for LTR friendship/relationship. Someone that maybe is a submissive/slave/cuckold minded type Bi male. A guy that finds his inner balance from being overly respectful, caring, and would love to be friends/lover with us and worship us both equally (emotionally and sexually). A guy that isn't afraid to be vulnerable at all times with us and finds it worth it to show his true self in order to gain our friendship/love. I guess we are looking for someone that is vulnerable and overly respectful as oppose to submissive? (To us submission is not just a sexual "scene" with someone…it is who you are and it is inside of you at all times, not just when you are horny and in the bedroom). We are NOT looking for a doormat or a guy that thinks this is all/only about sex. We are also NOT looking for a guy that gets off on us verbally/physically humiliating him. A couple would be ok, as well as a married man with his wife's permission (subject to confirmation), but our main focus is with a single Bi male. A single woman would be our third distant choice, because my wife is straight and would need to be friends with you as well to feel comfy. Sexually, you will always be eager to want to help/please, yet subservient, respectful and willing to follow my queue and will never pressure us. You will be giving, caring, humble, appreciative, genuine, respectful, obedient and trustworthy. If you lie once, you will be disowned! All in all, we are looking for someone that is looking for his inner balance by helping/pleasing us.

US: We are fairly inexperienced and vanilla. We are looking for a long term monogamous exclusive relationship…poly? Lover? A boyfriend? Brother husband? We are really looking for friendship/connection/chemistry first, then a very discreet sexual friend/helper. Expect to get asked a lot of questions and for this to be a slow process. (This means put your dick away and prepare to use your brain for a while!). We are an older/overweight upper middle class couple on a beer budget. People would be shocked if they knew this interested us. Having said that, we are looking for someone that “fits in” with our lifestyle. To our family and friends you will just be a normal every day "good guy" that fits in with us seamlessly...our friend. Behind closed doors you will (obviously) be so much more.....you will be ours.

WIFE: She is very vanilla and fairly passive, yet if a “needle in the haystack” is found, she will slowly let you in (with me helping behind the scenes). She has a huge need for discretion and friendship first. Once she feels comfy enough, she can be quite insatiable and I have no doubt that you will enjoy yourself a lot!

HUBBY: I will be in charge of finding our friend, so you must be VERY willing to let me into who you really are (My wife is tired of all the BS online). I’m looking for a true friend with common interests. I’m open to talking about VERY kinky things as I think it all starts in the mind.

SEXUALLY:

YOU AND MY WIFE: You will be expected to respect and cherish my older/bbw wife at all times. Fulfill her needs emotionally, and to be her best friend always. You must be willing to take the time to gain her trust/respect first. Sexually you will be told ahead of time by me (behind the scenes) how I want you to please her. At times this will mean that I will want you to be dominant with her and at other time I will want you to be submissive with her, but at all times you will have the utmost respect for her (and me) and please her in the ways that I want. I will always be in control your orgasms and your cock will always be mine to do with what I want. Her satisfaction is what you seek most, not your own orgasms.

YOU AND I: I am looking for a guy that can show me his true inside no matter how insecure or kinky he is. I am looking for a guy that I can become best friends with as well as "more". I am a sub that leans towards switch with other men, so with the right person, and a strong connection/commitment the sky is the limit with what I am willing to try. Sexually, I want to be in control of your cock and orgasms at all times. I'd like to tease you...and at times please you myself. I’m very interested in talking more in private about ALL of this.

CONCLUSION:
We are looking for someone that has a strong need for discretion about this and/or someone that might feel lost/unappreciated/lonely/misunderstood/have low self esteem and/or have a fear of rejection. Or at a minimum, someone that knows he will always be secondary to us, yet feels most comfortable in this role. You should have an overwhelming strong desire to want to please and want to feel accepted and appreciated for all of your efforts. You thrive on feeling vulnerable and putting yourself out there as a way of proving your commitment to us. YES, I will feed off of this and mentally encourage as well as provoke you to be your true inner self...all the while pushing your buttons and boundaries and teasing you about what you like/want the most!

You will be punished primarily by orgasm denial and rewarded with our appreciation and friendship. I/we would hope that your ultimate reward is our lifelong friendship (and sexual fulfillment). Hopefully this brings you the inner balance in your life that you seek, as we DO realize that this will only work if it feels right for ALL of us.

REMINDER: If you write to us, please have your profile filled out completely and have more than one line to say. If you don't make an effort in filling out your profile and putting thought into your e-mails to us, it only shows that you are not truly willing to put forth the effort needed to be with us in a long term relationship.