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We are

Thee Goren Society

THE Real deal and have been for decades.


An? Aramaic definition from Roman times




Are you willing to risk everything you are or ever will be, in order to live the life of a real slave in a setting that reminds your very being what you seek out and become for the rest of your life?

If so, then read on and petition us!!!!!

We are a male dominated Roman style mind set society

For a better understanding of who we are Please read through our journal entries Thank you

First ed in 1985 as an Underground Offline real life BdSm society.

We are still predominately are an offline based group.

Many mistake us for Gorean or assume we came from Gorean theology, far from it.

We have more than a few house holds, stretched out through the USA and several countries.

WE ARE A GROUP WHICH MEANS WE ARE NOT JUST ONE COUPLE, BUT MANY houses HOLDS This site and others have no place for groups?


We are not trying to be snobbish, arrogant or any of the other assumptions many of. We just do not want those who try to make problems for a group or busy bodies with nothing to do except cause trouble.


For those owners /masters/ doms who seek to be part of something much more than the monthly munch, the occasional play party, club event. We offer and require a much higher standard then most.


What is roman slavery, the simple answer is a combination of old BdSm,? the real definition of slavery,? intertwine, and become one. The natural order? as some would refer it. Roman's lived with slaves serving in every aspect of their daily lives, Openly, sometimes brutally. One of the most Civilized, barbaric by our modern standards, long-lived ancient societies that existed.

?A slave is property, chattel, owned property of another.

It has no gender, sexuality, identity. It is their to be of service to it's owner first and foremost. Everything else is just a false hood. Ined consent makes the difference.

Is this the mind set? you are or seek?








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Actively Seeking:

Dominant Male

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A Poly Household


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Journal Entries:
4/14/2018 7:37:33 AM
If we decide to add you to our friends list we do so because we like your mindset and what you say in your profile. If we invite you to our profile page we  think you have similar interests as we do.

4/13/2018 8:46:12 AM
A lot of today's new age BdSm community plays at being a slave but has no clue as to what being and living as a real slaves really means. We live by the definition  with one key difference Informed Consent.

WE REQUIRE A LIFETIME COMMITMENT Whether you are released from one of our house holds you are still owned within the society, so you never have to worry about finding a new owner we keep our property for life.

4/12/2018 8:53:58 AM
Just a disclaimer for all applicants. We live by informed consent and have always required all applicants to be able to relocate on their own dime and convictions. However due to recently enacted Federal law that makes transporting in any way shape or form anyone who can be used sexually of age or not as part of the new law against human trafficking which by the way makes it a felony. As per  council's direction we now are posting this as a defacto standard we will not endorse condone or allow any member of the society to entice, coerce, force, or use any other method  in which to transport potential applicants. All have to have the were with the all and the intestinal fortitude to move forward.

4/10/2018 8:47:03 PM
I personally apologize to several  potential new owners coming into the society. I have not had the time to be able as of late to spend the required due diligence you deserve.
After we move this coming month to a larger property and get settled I will be able to devote some time to getting back with each of you.
Thank you for your continued support and patience.

Why is it so hard to understand.
If you have an empty profile or a profile that lacks even the most basic of information about who you are what you are about and what you honestly seek then how in the hell can anyone ever take you seriously?

Then if by chance  someone gives you a shot you then go on a rant about how demanding we are.  Give me a fucking break!!!!

You demand we give you details about every member of the society, frankly speaking, that is never going to happen. We are a private offline group.

Firstly Why bother, when you have never shown us the trust required to even begin to explain in details.

Second all the membership runs their respective house holds their way not the society's way or my way.

Thirdly I Am a busy man  have way too many tasks on any given day to waste my precious amount of time on here or anywhere on bogus bullshitters who just want to fuck with us or play some stupid game.

4/10/2018 6:18:01 AM


3/19/2018 8:25:51 PM
The person who responds and maintains this profile is the Found of the society.

I and my first house of the society is the primary entrance into the society at this time.
Why,  is a long story, but it affords us to personally evaluate all new slave applicants, even if they will move on to their sponsored house holds.

A petition is a correspondence asking us to formally consider you just like it used to be and why you think you are worthy  to enter into service with us. You tell us who you are what your mind set is  and what you bring to the table  in it. What benefit  you bring to our society and to a house hold. You also give us a time frame in which you can relocate to being the orientation indoctrination and training cycle.

At every point the potential slave candidate male, female or trans must show the where with all and commitment to make it happen. We are not going to hold your hand, force, coerce, extort, blackmail, you to come to us.

For the record we are a loosely spread out group of owners  at some point in the near future we will be able to all locate in one place.

3/19/2018 12:49:43 AM
If you use the word Slave to define who you are, perhaps you should actually conduct yourself as one.

FYI this is for the anally retentive boys who want a domme  to own them. We are a male owner society and will remain so.

So just so you know if you do petition us, it is to serve in a male owner house hold and  well you will be treated as nothing more than property to be used, exploited as we see fit.

Yes I used the word exploited  calm down people it is not like  what most of you think it means  think it through you will get it.

2/4/2018 8:32:28 PM
Is it really getting that hard for people to understand what we offer is not based on weekend meets or club events?

1/28/2018 2:16:28 PM
OK it has  come to our attention  most of you do not actually seek real slavery or even the illusion of it. What you seek is a fantasy brought to reality without  any idea of how it can be done or live it, you just want to put xyz person into xyz slot block or hole and then it is done.

Between the players, con artists, liers, thieves and those with other hidden agendas it amazes me that even a few people can connect online these days at all.

Many make the mistake  that We only seek those pretty girls or boys, it is not about what you or we look like it. It is a mind set one that permeates through our daily lives who we are and what we live by!!!

1/24/2018 8:24:20 PM
We will not be a option for those who only think of  of themselves and us as a last ditch option. If you cannot be a real slave property with all of you, then why should we bother to waste our precious time with you?

Yes we do ask a lot from those who enter into service. Every single owner who is a member takes the responcibilities of owning and keeping slaves seriously.

Seriously their is some people on here that are just interested in what's in it for them.

1/13/2018 6:02:35 PM
Strange how people on here demand soo much but give back the least.Grow the FUCK UP, Demanding one have a never ending supply of pics for you, how does that make you anymore real then anyone else is just dillusional. We can easily prove ourselves real when the time becomes necessary. We get more no shows then these days then anything else.

For the record I am a middle age Guy and have been a guy all of my life.My wife Yes I actually do have a wife who is the house mistress these days I own her and have for well over 20 years,I have owned slaves the same slaves for a decade or longer, for those who assume we are not real, go fuck yourself.Every member of the society is real and actually lives the life and keeps property. I am not hiding who I am,who we are, however, I am not going to make it easy for those whose intent is to steal what we own/ have or make money off any of us by using detailed information to their advantage and not ours.

The pic hunters aside the  worst group are the swindlers,con artists,thieves players, swingers or those seeking the prettry people network.

As for myself and the other members of the society, which is a loosely bound of like minded owners who live by a set of principles and a code. We strive to live by a set of standards and principles. We have been around for along time and will continue to be whether the bdsm community remains viable or not. We have no intentions of being PC ever.

No way to verify you then stop wasting our time!!!!!
No profile  or incomplete profile tells us that you are not serious and well have another agenda. If your profile contains information not pertaining to who you actually are or what your ive is then it is a waste of time to bother responding.

MALE slave applicants you waste our time simply because you fail to actually read our profile and actrually do what is required. Their is a very small market within our society for you and of those that do require a male slave. We have over whelming number of verified applicants waiting. SO STOP Whining about how unfair we are being to even consider your petition.

We are not perfect  nor will we ever be.  We live in the real world and expect and require those who come into the society to be as well.

1/11/2018 11:51:47 AM
The gathering is ON!!!! We will be inviting a few select individuals and couples as guests of the society.

1/4/2018 9:49:59 PM

So many it seems these days to confuse reality with the fantasy driven hyperbole.

This is a male led society not a female led society.

1/3/2018 1:41:31 PM
I have clarify things. I think a lot of you have no clue as to how a group in general works. It is not just one large sex party or swingers mind set. At least with us not in the least. It seems many on here think that we have all kinds of slaves and owners just lying around eating bon bons waiting on new slaves to show up so they can use them harshly.

Each owner has his responsibility that preclude him from attending many events. Each of us are pretty damn busy.

1/1/2018 7:47:29 AM
Happy New Years!!!!!

Hopefully we will not see the same old crap that we have seen the last few years being permeated on this and other sites.

12/16/2017 10:51:53 PM
It seems that out of every ten emails we receive the majority  mix and use words and terms that are out of context. We only discuss potential possibilities that are realistic. Many tend to use hyper bole and are very unrealistic

TPE means to us exactly as it has been defined real total power Exchange,  Yes that does mean if we or I decide to hang you up and use you as a pinata so be it, as is  making you stand as a umbrella stand or light shade  or on display with all of your holes filled.

The point here is,  it is up to you to make the actual real choice and then to make it happen. We are not going to hold your hands or encourage you one way or another. Nor are we going to finance you or your present life what so ever!!!!!

We thank those of you who have taken the time to view our society profile and then inquired for specifics.
Just because we are a nationwide and in some places international type of group does not mean we live in every city on the planet In fact most of us live more remotely for privacy reasons. Many of the members are working professionals with life time careers.

12/12/2017 2:55:21 AM
Be advised for those of you who are unaware, a lot of people on here want you/ I to go to another site to communicate with them. If you do, understand that most of them not all but the majority of them  will try to put sniffing snooping maleware on your system. Their purpose is clear they just want access to you wallet/bank accounts. At least use sites that log all IP addresses like Skype and yahoo messenger and block most malware from either user. Stay away from third party sites that does not have clear authenticating policies in place.This includes google sites. Google logs all communications messages pics and such and then uses them to aggregate their own corporate agenda.Their is nothing private on most sites  these days so user be ware.

12/1/2017 10:24:47 PM
WE  have over 2000, yes 2000 vetted male slaves applications and of those only about a 100 have any chance of ever being considered. The simple reason why is,
One they are real with real expectations.

Two they have taken the time and put forth the effort to put all of their cards on the table.

How strange we only have a few real vetted female slaves applicants these days. Primarily most of the female applicants are scammers or males pretending to be females.

Three they bring to the table more then a life of living and serving as a slave.
They for the most part have made their present life a benefit to a potential owner and not a deterrent they offer real use able skills, have jobs. make money, are responsible and last but not least they have the mind set of what a slave is to SERVE with out being served.

WE as a group have gone to a slot system. This means that each house hold puts in a request of what they want and are looking for, they may have only one slot or two or three depends on the owners needs. We never dictate to them how many or who or even what.

Once they gives us their request we peruse over our application files for those who best reflect the request. We then work it through until the new slave enters into service goes through initial training and then moves on to serve the house in which the owner /sponsor made the request.
Yes, We know the process appears to be cumbersome and slow it is that way for a reason.

We want the applicants slave wise to be fully engaged and committed to the long term not the short term goals. This weeds out a lot of the players,scammers and  such from ever coming into the society.

12/1/2017 10:02:42 PM
This is clearly going to come off as a rant, Reality check, but it is more about how sadly corrupt the greater BdSm community has gotten to these days.They knowingly allow this kind of manipulation means someone else is making money off it.

If a part time fast food worker who was living homeless in a real homeless shelter can find the way to get on a bus on the other side of the country and travel clear across the country to us,Or the two girls on opposite sides of the world saving for two and three years a piece can legally immigrate to the USA and then to us, all on their own dime to serve, SO CAN YOU. If not then you are just a free loading lazy ass hat.Yeah I said it.

It is a dis service to others and more so to the essence of the BdSm community at large.
It is a little known fact that of those female profiles over 90 percent are males pretending to be females  and using the site as wank and money scams.

IF YOU ARE SERIOUS, HONEST, TRUSTWORTHY, COMMITTED AND REAL THEN THIS IS EASILY DOABLE ON YOUR PART. Otherwise you are just trying to scam us, play us or being disingenuous at the very least.

FYI for those jack asses who use female profiles to try sell female slaves for money, STOP. wake the fuck up. You the so called owner/pimp whoever sits behind the screen is just another lame attempt at trying to steal money without working for it.

Any real owner know's full well the legal ramifications of being charged with human trafficking.

11/28/2017 4:31:14 AM
The Role of the NCO, they should master three things listed below:
Sergeants - Lead, Inspect, Train
Staff Sergeants - Plan, Track, Execute
Sergeants First Class - Supervise, Integrate, Coordinate
First Sergeant - Manage, Mentor, Develop, Forecast
Operations Sergeant Major - Plan, Synchronize, Resource
Command Sergeant Major - Shape, Influence, Drive
Understanding your role as an NCO will enable you to be a lot more effective and efficient within your organization.  Invest in yourself as a leader, the time spent honing your skill will equip you with the tools you need to be successful.  Every day you should come to work with a plan on how you are going to improve the lives of your subordinates and yourself.
“Set the standards, know the standards, enforce the standards and be the standards”

11/28/2017 3:00:25 AM
I would like to take a moment and congratulate all of those who actually take the time  to view our Society profile.

Most people do not get we are a group of owner/slave property couples and single male owner types.

Even if you do not agree with our mindset, I sincerely thank you for at the very least taking the time and being tolerant.

For those seeking what we offer then send us a petition /application as per our guidelines listed on the profile.

For those male owner types who wish to join or inquire by all means do so we are always interested in growing the society with quality hard driving individuals with the same mind set and goals as we have.

As we enter the Holiday season let us take a moment and reflect on those who came before us and gave the ultimate sacrifice either fully or partially and thank the sentinels of our lives. They ask for nothing, but the respect they have all earned.

How many of you are willing or have given to give the government the blank check your life over to them known someone may cash it in?

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas,Hanukkah and New Years!!!

11/28/2017 1:48:36 AM
Odd same face different user names, same scams,  my my how the rats keep coming.I am not sure who is worse the thieves, liers, cons, scammers, hackers  or the cheats.

Oh FYI did you know that for those who are stealing porn stars images those porn stars are now using the adult actors guild to go after those who use their images illegally.You are aware any commercial image adult wise now has a ear mark embedded into it identifying who owns it and further has  tracking built into it.

11/25/2017 12:05:52 AM
In case you have missed  the important parts of our profile.
We are a group of house holds.
We seek real life slaves  with a slave mind set.
We are not here  for you to feel good about yourself.
You are here to serve not be served.
We are here for the membership.
We seek those who fully understand what being a real life slave is about.
We are the reality check  against the hyperbole fantasy crap.
What we offer is based on real life capability and expectations and not some fantasy.
We actually do live a normal vanilla life as part of our BdSm life. It can be done if you actually live it.

Real life limits: Death, dismemberment,ABL, Littles, Kids, Vomit, Drugs, mules, Human trafficking, Severe blood loss, Severe broken bones, Necrophilia,laziness, fraud, general stupidity.

We will never pay money to anyone ever. Either the person is lying directly or at the least misleading you if they are asking for money.

The society makes paying money to potential slaves or their pimps for any reason against the by laws of the society and as such, members will be fined and expelled with out further warning or notice.

We hold owners/members accountable for their actions and as well slave types.We try to treat everyone we encounter with a professional attitude, We hope everyone finds what they seek.


11/22/2017 10:38:03 PM
Happy Turkey day!!!! Be safe brothers!!!!

11/22/2017 11:50:02 AM

Definition Of A Slave

a slave is property.

It has no name, saving what her Master/Owner might choose to call it.

It is without caste.

It is without citizenship.

It is simply an object.

It is simply an article of property, completely, nothing more.

It's life, it's very breath belongs to her Master/Owner.

It has only value, as defined by it's Master/Owner.

It is to be of service, not become served.

Once they are transformed into true servitude; It truly becomes an object of servitude.

It is only human as long as It's Master/Owner allows it to be.

It is not a person, but property, chattel.

It's servitude, is it's reward  

11/3/2017 11:35:11 AM
Now this is sad.Being yelled and screamed at by someone we have never met nor have we had a conversation with. To hear them bitching about how we do not have enough chapter houses. Well you can blame the greater bdsm community for that, most would never sign on for the responsibilities we require of a owner who owns and runs a chapter house. So either stand up and do what is required or sit down and shut the fuck up !!! We give everyone equally the opportunity to be part of us, as long as they fully understand the dynamics and responsibilities required and accept them fully.

10/31/2017 6:50:01 AM
FYI those who claim to own a slave and sell them to you are either con artist intent on taking your money or cops trying to ensnare those who who are stupid enough to believe you can actually buy someone on here.
Also these so called BdSm academies are just as bogus as the people pushing them out. This site has gotten worse by day with no end in sight.

10/17/2017 2:56:48 AM
Update:  We have changed the gathering canceled the Feb date due to too many conflicts.Please read your email for alternative dates.

Too many seek the fantasy and not the reality driven bdsm these days.How disappointing for them to sit on here waiting for some one to pay attention to them while they wack off or masturbate because they will never get off the couch to live it.!!!!!

10/15/2017 1:17:56 AM
This is a little generalization and is not meant to alienate anyone. However over and over the conversations we have had here and elsewhere always ends up pretty much the same. All of the Europeans we talk to say they cannot find what they seek there.Yet every time we engage owner types in EU to set up a chapter house none and I do say none of them are willing to put in the effort, expense or where with all to make it happen. They always want someone to do it, they always fall short. We just walked out of a serious negotiation about a possible major site for such a venue only to be blind sided by the very group who asked us to do it.

They bitch and whine about having to travel the to USA to find good kink places yet the only thing they seem to be able to find in EU is whore houses. You get what you pay for.

 The last time we went to EU we had a wonderful time with the few parties we went to but their really never was any cohesive place or places other then a few rubber bars to hang out at. I freely admit we have notgone back to the EU in a while mainly due to a lack of interest on our part.

Time will tell whether we choose to open a chapter house in the EU ourselves and run it our way!!!!!

10/13/2017 2:10:28 AM
What do we seek?
Real bonafied free slaves who understand what a real slave is and better yet seek out real owners who understand what a real slave chattel property is.

Real slave owners couples preferred but not required Owner/Master switch slave couples  to join us with the same mind set as we have.

We do not base membership by your penis size nor wallet size. We do judge you based on your character of action, not your words for we have no value set based on words of some one we do not know personally. We are not for most mind you, we have a sensible set of by Bi laws principles and requirements that only real lifestylers can appreciate.

Subs are reviewed on a case by case basis.

Requirements are simple. Proper mind set and the ability to live in the real world and yet keep the mind set is what we prefer most for potential applicants. Some  lose the perspective of informed consent when they only consider just the fantasy and solely the fantasy as the primary goal.

We are realist we know every one has baggage.We are growing slowly we will only keep this and one other site for now open to recruiting.

Consider joining the society as if you are joining the service or a spiritual organization like a convent or monastery. These are references only and not to illicit specific ideology of one set or another.

We will never buy anyone. We will never pay or offer money.

10/13/2017 2:08:58 AM
What do we seek?
Real bonafied free slaves who understand what a real slave is and better yet seek out real owners who understand what a real slave chattel property is.

Real slave owners couples preferred but not required Owner/Master switch slave couples  to join us with the same mind set as we have.

We do not base membership by your penis size nor wallet size. We are not for most mind you we have a sensible set of by laws and requirements that only real lifestylers can appreciate.

Subs are reviewed on a case by case basis.

Requirements are simple. Proper mind set and the ability to live in the real world and yet keep the mind set is what we prefer most for potential applicants. Some  lose the perspective of informed consent when they only consider just the fantasy and solely the fantasy as the primary goal.

We are realist we know every one has baggage.We are growing slowly we will only keep this and one other site for now open to recruiting.

We will never buy anyone. We will never pay or offer money.

10/13/2017 1:35:30 AM
What do we seek?
Real bonafied free slaves who understand what a real slave is and better yet seek out real owners who understand what a real slave chattel property is.

Real slave owners couples preferred but not required Owner/Master switch slave couples  to join us with the same mind set as we have.

We do not base membership by your penis size nor wallet size. We are not for most mind you we have a sensible set of by laws and requirements that only real lifestylers can appreciate.

Subs are reviewed on a case by case basis.

Requirements are simple. Proper mind set and the ability to live in the real world and yet keep the mind set is what we prefer most for potential applicants. Some  lose the perspective of informed consent when they only consider just the fantasy and solely the fantasy as the primary goal.

We are realist we know every one has baggage.We are growing slowly we will only keep this and one other site for now open to recruiting.

We will never buy anyone. We will never pay or offer money.

10/13/2017 1:17:10 AM
What do we seek?
Real bonafied free slaves who understand what a real slave is and better yet seek out real owners who understand what a real slave chattel property is.

Real slave owners couples preferred but not required Owner/Master switch slave couples  to join us with the same mind set as we have.

We do not base membership by your penis size nor wallet size. We are not for most mind you we have a sensible set of by laws and requirements that only real lifestylers can appreciate.

Subs are reviewed on a case by case basis.

Requirements are simple. Proper mind set and the ability to live in the real world and yet keep the mind set is what we prefer most for potential applicants. Some  lose the perspective of informed consent when they only consider just the fantasy and solely the fantasy as the primary goal.

We are realist we know every one has baggage.We are growing slowly we will only keep this and one other site for now open to recruiting.

We will never buy anyone. We will never pay or offer money.

10/13/2017 1:15:39 AM
What do we seek?
Real bonafied free slaves who understand what a real slave is and better yet seek out real owners who understand what a real slave chattel property is.

Real slave owners couples preferred but not required Owner/Master switch slave couples  to join us with the same mind set as we have.

We do not base membership by your penis size nor wallet size. We are not for most mind you we have a sensible set of by laws and requirements that only real lifestylers can appreciate.

Subs are reviewed on a case by case basis.

Requirements are simple. Proper mind set and the ability to live in the real world and yet keep the mind set is what we prefer most for potential applicants. Some  lose the perspective of informed consent when they only consider just the fantasy and solely the fantasy as the primary goal.

We are realist we know every one has baggage.We are growing slowly we will only keep this and one other site for now open to recruiting.

We will never buy anyone. We will never pay or offer money.

10/11/2017 5:15:05 AM
Why is it so hard for people to read. This is not E harmony.  We clearly state we are a male owner society not a female owner society.So  when ever you approach us, do so knowing that the owners members of the society are all Alpha males and most of them consider male slaves  the lowest form of property.

10/7/2017 12:35:59 AM
RIP brothers you will be sorely missed.See you on the other side at the RP, Staff Sergeant Bryan Black, 35, of Puyallup, Washington, Staff Sergeant Jeremiah Johnson, 39, of Springboro, Ohio and Staff Sergeant Dustin Wright, 29, of Lyons, Georgia.

9/28/2017 3:16:22 AM
Rest In Peace Hugh you will be missed!!!

9/26/2017 10:49:38 PM
It is sad at how through out the ages on here the same people different names ages are all the same how lame that they refuse to actually live it  or worse they are only here to try to scam the real lifers.

9/25/2017 5:00:46 AM
Ok to clarify a few points for those who seem to not be able to read. We have been around since 1985 in the real world.We have had this profile here since 2005 and was here as a individual since it's inception. Why because we are a group Yes we have slaves and owners joining us on a regular basis.

No not everyone lives at my house  nor in the general vicinity. We have a few  here that do live close by, but we are spread out throughout the entire USA and some other countries.Most of the membership has left the online scene complete and even some of the more public BdSm community venues. Yet we all still live by the same mindset.

Our long term goal is still to have a place to call ours where everyone around us is part of the same BdSm community The society.It is slowly moving forward in a positive way.

Thee Goren Society

9/18/2017 11:13:39 PM
Thank you for those who have expressed concerns for us, WE ARE FINE.

Why did we put our life in Florida to endure Hurricanes? We the first house of the society have lived here for most of our adult life. We have  also lived in a few places outside of Florida, only to keep coming back home!!! It offers us a warm, mild weather most of the time.It allows us  to venture outside bdsm play almost year round. It still allows us to make a living in the real world.

Some of the memberships house holds do lie  in Northern States and in Northern latitudes across the world. The residents of those house holds love to come visit during inclimat weather.

We seriously thought about buying a spot in Hawaii, however the cost to live there and the cost to buy even a modest place, well it is not cost effective.

If you look at where we live now, it will cost you more then one million dollars for modest place with a 100 acres. If you want more, the cost averages 40k per acre.

If you go a hour South, the price doubles per acre,If you go further to South Florida, it is 60 to 80k per acre. Hard to find anything over a few acres at this point, that is not low lying or swamp related lands.Which present more problems then just cost.

We have lived the Island life  a few years,  both in another country as well as in the Keys, which we love. However it is not cost effective and does not afford us the amount of land we now require.

Our current long term plans will afford us the ability to once again commute to a island and mainland based lifestyle.This plan is for our house hold and as well as for the society in general.Many of the members are choosing to make the same decisions long term.

9/18/2017 4:26:59 AM
We now have main power back. We still have some water left on the property. Some damage. A lot of big trees now down and some out buildings. We could have had a much worse situation if Irma had just kept her course and stayed strong after the initial coming on to shore. We GOT extremely lucky.For members in the zone of destruction if you can read this please call me directly or check in by mail.Thank you.

9/10/2017 9:55:23 PM
We are now with out main power so I will make this short an sweet. We currently have about 3 feet of water at our front door and their is a tornado some where close by I can hear it!!! Our reserve power is on and will only last for a few days at most.We will be fine.  So everyone be good and play nice!!!!

9/10/2017 2:05:30 AM
We hope every one is safe from the current storm threats to Florida.As for us We are  fine and for some of the members who are now with us all the better.Be prepared Be safe!!!

9/5/2017 2:48:33 PM
Will be on and off prepping for possible hurricane good luck be safe!!!Hurricane Irma now bearing down on Florida and will encompass the entire State.

We for the record do not use nor will we use  outside websites for correspondence unless we have been able to verify you offline in the real world Skype  is a method we use among st others in which to verify applicants.

So for all of those people who insist on requiring demanding placing conditions upon us  we regret to inform you we refuse to oblige you.

9/2/2017 12:22:14 AM
All pending slots filled. All waiting lists slots now spoken for. New house holds Now pending.

a few notes. If you have a blank profile then it means to us you are doing that for a reason and not one which builds trust in our eyes.

I am blunt and to the point  most get offended by that. Again we live in a reality check environment If we take you on it is for life nothing less. So for us we have to know everything about you past present and future.

We have a training program in place for all initiates,applicants their is no negotiation getting around it nor is their any role playing it.

So for instance you want to become a fuck toy understand you still will have to go through the training course and endure all of it first.

8/28/2017 8:42:19 PM
Note: If you are a foreign applicant  IE someone from outside the US,  unless you have skills and the ability to relocate immigrate to here  on your own dime. We regret to inform you we will decline you.It is not because we do not seek you out, however, we are very tired of all of the posturing that has been going on here wasting our precious time and efforts  in the real world.

8/23/2017 5:33:54 AM
It amazes me at how many people on here  and in this new age bdsm  lack the ability to even understand  the reality check  that comes when you base your entire existence on some hyper bole fantasies that must be lived still in the reality. Someone still has to be the adult in the room and pay the bills and make the money. So either you deal with that reality or not either way it is still gonna bust your ass. This is why we stress and live this way of life within our mind set and belief system  just like the way the Romans owned, kept slaves as property. Yes it was horrible,harsh, cruel, insanely sadistic, Yes, it is not the way modern folks live, but, the key difference is You choose to live it, not forced to live it, that defines what true and real informed consent really is.

8/22/2017 11:02:23 PM
I think some people on here need some serious geography lessons. Since when is New York or LA in either respective State.Oh wait I heard that at one time the world was flat and  it was on the edge of a black hole I not one to be telling wild stories on here but!!!!!!!!

8/22/2017 6:53:13 PM
RIP Brother SSGT Aaron S. Butler  may your time at the RP be peaceful De Opresso Liber

8/17/2017 8:44:41 AM
Wow more hate mail, why is it so hard for people to comprehend and actually read a Damn profile.How much more up front blunt and brutally honest do we have to be,

We question those who call themselves slaves and subs hell any word you use these days to describe yourself is circumspect at least.Very few are who they say they are  period.Those of you who keep pretending to be slaves yet make demands are not slaves you are just extortionists trying to gain monetary gains.

We follow the rules set up here and follow the law in the vanilla world, yet we are still given nothing more but more hate.

Why is it that if you have a differing opinion contrary to most on here they do everything they can do to destroy you even commit felonies, These new age bdsmers  have done more to destroy the life of bdsm then the vanilla mainstream ever could.

We live daily, TPE, Roman style of slavery for life, as part of a society of like minded old style members.Many confuse us with Goreans, We are NOT Goreans, we do allow Goreans to join us. However, Goren is based on the life and culture of how the Romans owned,kept and mind set of bdsm slavery that we firmly believe it should be,with some exceptions.
I know most think it as role play based on fiction, It is not remotely close to being any of that.It is a mind set first and foremost. However, I assure you, we are real and have been for a very long time.We are based on reality driven way of life that allows us to inter mix it within the vanilla world using bdsm as the tools in which do it.

We are not a munch group. We do attend some on occasion, if for no other reason then to present and clarify to the local bdsm community who we are and what we are about.

We are not a strip club, we may own  some  however, we do not allow bdsm to enter into the business.

We are not a bdsm club for weekends role play. We do own such places as public play  space and run them according to local laws and ordinances as appropriate.

We are not white slavers

We do not condone or allow for human trafficking.We live by informed consent for a reason.

We do not allow children to attend or be a part of anything having to do with being in the society.

We do not allow the exploitation of minors.

We do not allow certain types of individuals we feel that will never have the society's best interest at heart to enter into service.

We are a life style private exclusive group  based on a set of principles and protocols.

8/1/2017 7:56:54 PM
We do not use gmail accounts nor do we use google hang outs or any other site. We will not contact anyone on any other site  until we have been able to verify you offline Period. 

We will engage in practical conversation leading to a real life interview face to face with one of the elders in the society.

We will not engage in conversations that waste our time nor will we engage in conversation for cyber.

If you are a owner type who lives by the Code we will gladly discuss membership.

7/30/2017 6:58:28 AM
Why is it so hard for people to understand the difference between a bunch of books and a group that has been around since the 80's and was not based on Gorean, but on Roman theology. I must assume most do not bother to actually read a profile thoroughly.

6/6/2017 10:36:11 PM
If your not willing to fill out your profile and put real use able information in it why should we waste our valuable time reviewing it or your emails,

Common courtesy is a must. If you send us crap expect us to either delete unread or a smart response.  We are tired of all of the email we get with exactly little to no information and a lack of the most basic understanding of what we are about IE actually Read the damn profile we have provided.  Not asking for a 20 page documentary of your life but at the very least something more then I want to serve or am looking to be owned.

Yes real people are actually exist behind this profile.We are not a bot, a scammer, player or any of the other crap that is running rampant online these days.

We have been around offline in the real world for decades Yes decades and even online we have been around for over a decade on here. So  we are time tested.

6/2/2017 9:20:59 PM
Possible new chapter house openings up in Canada and Uk.We are in need a lot of new owner members to support both locations.

5/30/2017 3:20:47 AM
Some one is always trying to play games it seems on here.

5/25/2017 4:55:18 PM
Definition Of A Slave

a slave is property.

It has no name, saving what her Master/Owner might choose to call it.

It is without caste.

It is without citizenship.

It is simply an object.

It is simply an article of property, completely, nothing more.

It's life, it's very breath belongs to her Master/Owner.

It has only value, as defined by it's Master/Owner.

It is to be of service, not become served.

Once they are transformed into true servitude; It truly becomes an object of servitude.

It is only human as long as It's Master/Owner allows it to be.

It is not a person, but property, chattel.

It's servitude, is it's reward  


5/24/2017 3:18:26 PM
We have found the spot for our new pavilion and training facility.Newsletter coming!!!!!

5/14/2017 5:43:50 PM
Members check your email new updates to the new letter.  We are now setting up a funding page for our group to build  a members only getaway.

3/7/2017 3:29:21 PM
Stop your whining, bellyaching, begging, demanding that we make your life whole by giving you money or taking care of you.

Real slaves make real commitments and go to the extremes to fulfill them. We are not responsible for your actions or in actions  before you enter into service with us and the only way you will ever enter into service is by showing up proving to us you have what it takes to serve. Just as we hold each and every member of the society to the same standard we also hold all slaves to the same standard in serving.

You can not have to both ways either do it or not, but do not blame us for your lack of integrity, commitment, servitude,inaction or  problems.

Where as players, wannabees subbies who through around the word slave, all tend to have the same trait of wasting time making demands, conditions upon which they will serve only to never follow through.

So how does anyone really accept anything from anyone these days when the very words given have little to no similar meaning to what what we perceive them.

TPE means total power exchange it does not mean only the power a slaves wish's to give the other person or  I only accept the responsibility as long as it does not require me  to actually do what is required and make damn hard choices. Yes many doms,dommes I do not even call them that these days are only interested in the sex, or easy pickings on most of the community at large.  On the fair side of things most slaves types are only interested in the fantasy hyperbole  that is thrown about these days as being the real bdsm community. 

We are approached daily weekly by those wishing to sell us their slaves, interesting considering, we do not know them nor their slaves, they just assume we are more then willing to conduct this type of transaction with out knowing either party. Then their is the side fact one it is illegal and partakes of illegal human trafficking and secondly bears a strong resemblance of someone just looking to scam and make easy money.

Real owners have references offline they are known with local communities.We go to a very large extreme set of circumstances to make damn sure we know who joins us and who they really are.Very few to day live by the code we live by  that is not our problem it is theirs do not expect us to live by yours when you do not bother to even have one.

Their is no such thing as tolerance  or at least by definition as it used to be. This is not a game or a weekend play time at the very least with us a real owner can do what ever he so desires to do to property. He still has to live within the confines of our community and the real world.

Most owners I have met and have known for decades  understand that this is a journey and the sex is only one of the rewards not the sole reward.

A true slave must live to be of service not place conditions upon it's service other wise they are the ones being served and not the owners.

1/28/2017 4:49:20 PM
New Year  new goals.  Everyone thinks it is easy to convey, how we live they assume it is part of some weird fantasy life.Yet we all must still live in reality.

11/16/2016 2:14:19 AM
We are not looking to grow the society at any rapid pace but a more stable slow building with quality not quantity.Nor is it about sex with us, Yes sex is involved, as is real bdsm, but the absolute ownership and living in in the real world is really what we are about.So for those who can only think need, crave the sex Ie fantasy hyper bole that the net these days seems to just blow out of proportion, good luck in finding that white unicorn.

10/5/2016 10:15:49 PM
We heavily Vett each and every applicant. That does means we do this offline in the real world. Online interviews can only do soo much. Yes that does mean both slave and owners.

If you lie to us we will know.If you try  to play us  we will know. We take this very seriously  for both the slave and the owner.

9/26/2016 5:21:35 PM
We are currently looking for house owners in UK and Europe to further expand into.

9/22/2016 3:03:12 PM
Why do people want to become part of our society. The obvious reason is to serve or be served, But is is much more then that. It is really like joining the service, joining a convent monastery of sorts because you will be traveling a path far less walked.Yes sex is involved and yes we enjoy sex and all the variations there of it. However we  live in the reality and are not going to hype or romanticize  a fantasy real or not.

The roman mind set or as I have referred to it is, the Goren way is the best aspect of owner slave mind set.TPE is really nothing more then the Goren roman slavery mind set. Can a person today live in that mind set serve in that mind set and maintain a vanilla exterior, absolutely.My reasons for saying this is because back in the day of the Roman's, slaves did all the things in a roman household up to and including running their owners properties, business and any other operations a roman citizen might have want or desire. Some even rose up to being the equivalent of a operation's officer in a modern corporation.That being said brutality we consider extreme  today was quite common  and much more then modern man has been witnessed to a slaves was a commodity nothing more.
Back in the day when most of bdsm was underground and old guard, owners and slaves still lived in the vanilla world and kept this side of their relationship on the QT. This new age bdsm seems to be more about what is in it for them then actually serving.I think part of the problem is due to the merging of swingers and carious other fetish's  into the bdsm community. In the last twenty years with mainstreaming of bdsm we have become more diluted and more fragmented then we ever used to be. We have seen it ebb and flow back n forth between extremes and yet we still exist and maintain our focus on what we feel is the nuts n bolts of bdsm and that is owners and slaves serving in the purest form.It is not about the various  acronyms or sub categories. For us each house hold that is within the society is as unique as our individual DNA is. We know we are not for every one hell we are not for 99 percent of the general bdsm community nor are we going to try to be. We do require those who enter into service to actually make a commitment and actually serve with out reservation. for those being served we hold them accountable and hold them to our code for their actions and in actions.

Many on here say they will relocate but the reality almost everyone seeks local. Strange when you consider most if not all will gladly relocate to get the perfect job or for family obligations, yet when it comes to actually living what you stress and confess to crave with your whole body soul and mind, not so much. Yes we require relocation and yes you might end up even further away then where you wanted to be. Slaves  true real ones do not get that choice and never have. However, when we place new slaves we do so as best that suits the owners needs, desires and requirements as well as those of the new slave. It does not mean we will bend over backwards for either one.I equate it to serving in the armed services you serve the interests of the country first and fore most and not yours. Same goes for us. When you enter into service here you do so knowing you are serving your needs ans desires your potential owners needs and desires and the society's needs and desires.

9/5/2016 7:57:55 PM
Ok brief update this update will be posted here on site as well as on the Cs and FEt  accounts.

This new year of building up our collective reserves has been good. All houses are now operating  with no issues. The gathering dates  for the next gathering is in your inbox, please review them and the current ballets for the new year.This also does include the new membership fees as discussed in the last news letter and as well at the changes at the last gathering.

Be advised  the membership now has it's slot allotment for male slaves fulfilled. We currently have a back log of over 3 thousand male slave types who have passed the back ground, interview, health inspection. Owners seriously reconsider  next years allotment  for male slaves for your house hold.The female slot allotment has not been met yet. All sponsored slaves for this year  have completed their initial indoctrination phase.

7/7/2016 8:56:28 PM

6/24/2016 9:57:45 PM
It never fails to amuse me at just how many say they want to become part of the society as slaves, yet few ever move forward or have the  intestinal fortitude to carry on!!!

Yes I know I and the rest of the membership do not make it easy to join or serve either as slaves or members well tough shit,If it was easy or like joining the local gym everyone would be doing it. We are not and never will be a munch group,swingers club or some group you join because everyone else is doing it. This is a serious life long commitment for everyone.

For those who say you have to be serious  and yet when it comes time for them to show us they are serious and committed, they mysteriously disappear or ignore you. For the record, we have spent considerable time, effort, yes money and resources to actually live this way of life. So in the end either YOU put up or shut the fuck up and move the Fuck on!!

6/14/2016 10:41:30 AM
Please Note: if you place a number phone number or a email contact in your initial email 99 percent of the time it is a scammer or worse someone who seriously is seeking to give you major problems. So far we have uncovered a few thousand numbers on this site and a few others that  use data mining to track you and phish you. Beware of someone bearing false gifts.

We are adults Act like adults!!! 

5/21/2016 1:45:05 AM

Note we have found over the years that the majority of the women who claim to be lesbians and younger females more so then older one are in fact are guys trying to get closer to young fems. Go figure!! Another trend is  some of the girls are either under age, pretending to be older or sorority girls, just wasting time on purpose. Add that to all of the university and institutions who use the site and other sites for their own data mining projects.The list just keeps getting longer!!!

We will always try our best to be upfront cordial even friendly  to everyone until they show us they are not who they pretend to be.

In the age of the internet and instant gratification and verification.How silly it is for those who think they are anonymous when they can be tracked easily enough.Virtually anyone with tech these days are traceable, do not believe  me ask  the bad guys in caves, sand box being droned.

Take Note:  foreign slave applicants, if you want us to seriously consider you,  you better have a plan in place for your own relocation.WE WILL NOT sponsor or pay for anyone to come here.

Nor do we negotiate fees of any sort with anyone EVER.Free slave only and only those who understand fully what they are getting into.

Their is all kinds of legal and liability reasons of why we refuse to spend money or make accommodations for transport. But the biggest reason is we voted as a group and feel as a group that it goes against the very premise of free will and choice.

As each owner enters into the society freely, as should any slave type must make the choice freely.That way everyone proves they are being adults making adult decisions.

For the record. When we receive any type of data information We do not keep it online nor do we keep it on any pc system in general. All information we have on members and applicants is for our use only and shall remain our use only.We do not share membership information of any type with anyone ever. So unless you have a submersible and can hold your breath for a long ass time their is absolutely no chance  you are gonna get any info out of us on anything. SO STOP TRYING TO HACK US ALREADY!! NOTHING TO FUCKING SEE HERE!!!

5/11/2016 8:26:13 PM


First we required a detail letter/petition/application formally requesting to be considered and to enter into service of the society.It must include  who you are,   what you seek, why you seek and how you came to make the choice to apply. It also must include real life references, lifestyle references health status, criminal status, normal information  that will help us make a sound decision. this is not a one all catch all process but a  long duration interview,  culminating with a physical meet n greet which will not include any sexual play.

If accepted into the society as property  you will be required to relocate at your own expense and leave your current life for a duration of at least one year to complete initial training and indoctrination requirements of the society. This is not negotiable.You will be housed,fed, cared for.

Include in this resume/application any and all information that would give us an idea of who you are what type of person you are and what type of owner's you seek.Include a proof pic  non nude is fine and is actually preferred.If you state, just see profile or send us  un proof pics we ill automatically decline you.

Consider this is the most important life interview if you will, that you will ever have.
Include any good and bad things about you,  we all have some of both.

We seek those first an fore most that have the right mind set and honestly deep down crave this controlled way of life for life.
It is not for most, we understand that.

We need to know what you bring to the table and why you think you fit in  we want those who best fit into our ways needs and wants.

We do not base our decisions on looks, race, age, gender, sexuality  in general.
We seek the proper mind set. Limits and fetishes are great,  but they are not the determining factor for us.we have a much more deeper and longer mind set.

Lastly, just be honest upfront with us it goes much easier that way and I assure you, I make sure due consideration is given to each applicant.

Note: Male slave types  if you petition us understand we get overwhelmingly large amount of emails and applications if you fail to follow these general instructions  we will deny you automatically.

We have gone to a slot style of fulfilling the needs of the society.  This means once slots are filled we will not take in new slaves until new slots open or new house holds/owner types are in the society.

Note: for owner applicants it takes us considerably longer to interview and process new houses holds or owners.We apologize,however,  if and when you become members of the society you will understand and require the same.

5/10/2016 2:48:15 PM
Which part of our profile do you not understand?  We are a group, forced into a single profile. We go to great length's to explain in the clearest details.

No profile,  just means to us you are hiding something.What that is, who knows.

Even if, most of the profiles on here are lies, still at least make an attempt.No one is perfect  but at least try.

As the founder I try my best to convey the society's mind set goals.

For instance, one of the reasons why we  are a slow growing group is, we hold owners and slaves to their commitments. For us it is not strictly about the sex, the bdsm, the pain and suffering.

5/9/2016 1:31:29 AM
We are making some changes to the petition process.Due to overwhelming male applicants we  are limiting the slots we have for any male slaves. 

So far, almost every male slave, sissy, in between, feels they are the best slave in the world . OK, but if you do not follow directions already stated in the journal below, how in the hell are we ever going to give you a equal shot?

Why should we take you seriously, if you do not prioritize and make us the priority?

We are not a option!!!!

I mean seriously folks, I now spend most of my evenings sitting here weeding through applicants, who fail  to meet the most basic requirements.

You bitched and whined about  how I had delegated others to answering emails and weeding through the process.OK, I listened and took action, but my God people,I live in reality as does the rest of the membership.

Owning male slaves or even older female slaves is not on the most owner couples list of slaves. I go to great lengths in weeding out and verifying and making damn sure every owner has what it takes.We just do not allow anyone to become a member.
Same goes for slave applicants.

For the membership they have standards and needs.

I openly admit the process is tedious and slow and well, I do have a life, a farm to run and company to run on top of this.

You expect us to drop everything and to cater to you when the reality is, if you are real which most of you are not and never will be. This includes females as well as some couples,  men pretending to be couples high on that list. Reality check!!!

  I could spend my time far better working on new toys or doing something far more productive then sitting here reading crap.

So read the profile, send us the pertinent information make damn sure you explain to us why we should consider you.

This is not a weekend or a few months but a life time of service.

What do you bring to the table that makes you a better applicant then say anyone else. What do you have going for you  besides your awesome dick, male, female body, craving the need for someone else to control.

Not one applicant in the last year has even bothered to give us  any of their useful skills other then sexual. We live in the real world not the fantasy hyper bole prevalent on this site and others which are worse.

So in closing this long rant:  keep it real people, so we can move forward  in a realistic manner.

Members the new site is being tested. Check your email boxes soon!!!

5/4/2016 9:08:45 PM
Here are a few acronyms we use and the definitions of those

Goren  it is not Gorean.  Goren is the Aramaic word for thresh or to thresh.

New Age BdSm Is today's more mainstream watered down BdSm. We firmly believe  is more about getting laid. swinging and weekend sex, then actually being about serving and bdsm

Roman slavery. It is how we best describe our way of life. Roman slaves where kept,used, owned,  as real property aside from the more historical factual enslavement which ended very brutally more so then not. We believe in fully informed consent non consent.

PROOF PICS  Are pics that  are selfies with one key difference. It is where you take the pic while holding a piece of paper with your CS profile Id on it and or with our Profile name clearly on  the piece of paper.

PRO PICS Are pictures that have been taking by commercial photographers and  or as well are done on a commercial shoot.These pics tend to be fakes and also porn stars. Just for reference. All commercial done pics have embedded within their coding a series of watermarks identifying them as copy righted material and who holds the copy right.

TPE Total Power Exchange to us means when you walk through our doors and sign an agreement you hand over your present life to us, your body, mind  and serve with the mind set of pure object and property.

Slave/Property a object real property chattel, to be owned by another.It is faceless nameless with out status it has no gender, no sexuality, no race, cannot own anything or make decisions about itself or another.It can become a object livestock dehumanized to the point of no longer being human but a pure owned object.

Stated Limits  these limits are practical and enforceable.

No Death meaning we have no interest in killing anyone,This includes  snuf and other related fantasies are just that fantasies.

we may allow owners and slaves to retain kids in their house holds, but we strictly forbid anyone to harm, intend to harm or use kids in any sexual manner.

Anyone trying to entice us or entrap us will be dealt with through law enforcement.

Drugs. The only allowed drug us will be that of a prescribed  drug  that is lawfully issued.Drug dealing is as well prohibited.

ABL AGE Regression this is a grey area due to the very nature of it. Due to recent events we no longer allow any of this fetish activity.


No Extreme severe blood loss.Goes with out saying  we do not want anyone to engage in behavior which requires emergency care or surgery as a result of use.

No Extreme broken bones. We understand  accidents happen .How ever we limit  the practice of those who seek to have broken bones on a regular basis.

No dismemberment,

No extreme trauma


4/24/2016 12:21:21 AM
People ask why we do not provide pics on our profile.The simple answer is a legal one .As a group we can not publicly display pics of the members when the members sign a agreement stating other wise. We take this very seriously. We live it and we also live in the vanilla world with families and career paths. So keep that in mind for us we do not hype the fantasy but live in the reality.

3/29/2016 1:44:40 AM
For those who can not understand simple English. This is a group as such we have chosen by choice to never give,lend ,loan money to anyone  for anything nor will we entertain accepting slaves who are owned by others out side of the society.

We will never send any one money under any circumstances.

We will not trade anyone out side of the society.

Those seeking to enter into service do so on their own volition.

1/20/2016 8:39:54 AM

First we need a detail letter to who you are  what you seek why you seek and how you came to make the choice to apply.

Include in this resume/application any and all information that would give us an idea of who you are.Include as well a proof pic  non nude is fine and is actually preferred.If you state just see profile or send us  un proof pics we ill automatically decline you.

Consider this to be the most important job interview if you will, that you will ever have.
Include any good and bad things about you,  we all have some of both.

We seek those first an fore most that have the right mind set and honestly deep down crave this controlled way of life for life.
It is not for most, we understand that.

We need to know what you bring to the table and why you think you fit in  we want those who best fit into our ways needs and wants.

We do not base our decisions on looks, race, age, gender, sexuality  in general.
We seek the mind set .Limits and fetishes are great,  but they are not the determining factor.

Lastly just be honest upfront with us it goes much easier that way and I assure I will make sure due consideration is given to each applicant.

Note: Male slave types  if you petition us understand we get overwhelmingly large amount of emails and applications if you fail to follow these general instructions  we will deny you automatically.

We have gone to a slot style of fulfilling the needs of the society.  This means once slots are filled we will not take in new slaves until new slots open or new house holds/owner types are in the society.

Note: for owner applicants it takes us considerably longer to interview and process new houses holds or owners.We apologize,however,  if and when you become members of the society you will understand and require the same.

1/13/2016 1:09:43 AM

1/9/2016 7:31:44 AM

1/9/2016 5:33:53 AM
You would think that the players,scammers and fantasy hyperbole rs would figure out if you try to play us in any way, shape or form we will know.

You do know we all do talk to each other and those we know in the greater bdsm community about folks. I guess they just cannot learn that one lesson in life.

1/7/2016 9:47:04 PM
Interesting how people who are seeking what we live and offer demand that we jump at their inquires and demands.

You the applicant must show us by performing and following through the commitment you make.

We are never going to come pick you up, kidnap, force you to get into a trunk,  nice fantasy, terrible in practical reality.

Nor are we ever going to give, send, provide money to you or anyone else you assert is your controller. owner, friend whatever.

You  the applicant must have the where with all and fully understand the commitments you make!!!!!!!!

First, we are a group pretty spread out so we cannot get together in the same zip code, State or country in a weekly, monthly basis.

Second, each member owns and runs his household as they want, so for instance, if said house wants to be Victorian, so be it, if they want to be gorean, so be it. As long as they are according to our requirements and rules.Yes, we do have some requirements and rules, most of which are practical,sane and keeps everyone on the right side of the law.

Thirdly, we have been around for decades in the real world. We are a private, limited exclusive group.As such, we decide who is in and who is not.We do not base our membership on age,race, gender, or sexuality in general. We do however limit those to a mind set.We live by the definition of what a owner and slave is.

And lastly,If you are a slave, by definition, as real property,you when you enter into service with us give up all rights and choices. We make the choices and decisions, not you.

A slave cannot place conditions upon their enslavement,otherwise they are not slaves, but just role playing and that get's very old very quickly when applied to a TPE 24/7 arrangement.

We go to great lengths to verify all within the group if you value your privacy from the membership do not petition to join. We want everyone within the society to be able to have the same footing as anyone else does.

11/13/2015 8:31:52 PM
Members check your mail!!!!!

9/12/2015 9:58:21 PM
Here is a hypocritical note. Most of these slaves/submissives demand one have a picture on your file as well as provide them with more pics, yet when you check their pics against a database,  you find they are just more net pics. When you confront them, they just block you or worse actively engage in trying to get you knocked off.

We can easily cam verify in real time if we choose to.However, this is a group profile, not a personal one, although I the founder do keep track and TALK  to most of entrants instead of delegating or handing off to a slave or another owner.


Be Real or move the FUCK ON

9/6/2015 9:26:28 PM
Interesting, how so called slave require potential owners to bow down to their conditions for serving.Yet they call themselves slaves. who really are the slaves in that context?How sad it is to think that these days bdsm community it more a swinger mind set filled with players, scammers and dishonorable, trying to scheme a way ones life.

8/28/2015 11:39:42 AM
If you use someone else's pics even cartoon ones to represent yourself how does that make you honest,real or anymore  then a wanna bee.At some point it all comes home to roost. It is why as a group we do not post personal pics of any other member.

7/16/2015 7:03:30 PM
Sad day for those who served and gave their all.De OPRESSO Liber  Semper FI

7/14/2015 8:17:12 PM
Count down to WWIII has begun

7/12/2015 4:53:27 PM
As of july12th. 2015 all training slots are filled.Good luck everybody!!!

7/4/2015 6:25:15 AM
Happy Birth day America!!!! May we have another 200 plus years under the flag of our fore fathers!!!!

6/20/2015 4:08:49 PM
All male slave slots have been filled for the entire year better luck next year.

50percent of the female slots are now in final interviews check your mail members.

Open slots for new member house holds.

4/18/2015 12:50:50 AM
In the time we have been here over a decade,  we have grown in size and shrunk over the years.

We only seek those who have the same mind set.  Even if that means we only grow one owner house hold at a time it is not about the size of the society, but the commitments and determination of those within it .

We are not going anywhere.Although we have reduced our online presence,  we are very much still alive  and active.

As always Live  Well long and Prosper

1/16/2015 10:41:10 PM
Wow now I  have heard it all people go from one extreme to another this site is just insane.

1/11/2015 3:33:17 PM
We will no longer use the chat program nor the video chat program on this site.

1/7/2015 5:43:18 PM
New Year New beginnings. Check your email account society members.

Their is still open Owner/dom/master types  for membership.
Owner/slave couples will be given a case by case basis consideration to join the society membership. Either group must have the where with all and ability to make a real long term commitment.

Female slaves applicants. We still have openings for owner/households.

Slave Couples  will be given special consideration.

All male applicants applying for a slave position, unless you can give us a damn good compelling reason and convince us as to why you should be considered, we will no longer consider males in general with out real life references {they will be checked in the real world}.

Thank you for your time.

12/24/2014 3:25:00 PM
Merry Christmas And Happy New Years!!!!

11/6/2014 2:45:38 PM
Sadly. I hate to have to address this issue but like most things  have to spell it out. A slave is property nothing more  race or even gender does not matter.Many online these days and in the new age bdsm community have some pretty unrealistic fantasies which can never work in reality.

10/17/2014 9:08:38 PM



7/28/2014 11:29:16 PM
It appears some seem to have a issue with the pics I chose for this profile. Well we could do like most and place stolen pics that make us look hot ,however that would be fairly dishonest and considering we are  a private exclusive group of people it is not fair to ask any of the membership for their own pics. The bears are a result of well a few pics I have taken or the new front one from someone I know that took the pic and sent it to me. Now that the pics are in the open domain No worries.

7/8/2014 10:21:20 PM

A slave is property owned by another !!!!

For all of those slave/sub applicants who wish to apply
You must provide us with sufficient information to make a proper evaluation whether you are male,female couple or something in between. Otherwise you will automatically be rejected. 

All owner applicants will be evaluated on a case by case basis.

A slave/ sub who places conditions of service and servitude upon a owner/master is no slave therefor is not deserving of any.  

7/7/2014 5:31:05 PM
Due to over whelming applications,  we must stress that unless you are prepared to move forward and  follow through in a time frame we feel is realistic, we will not pursue endless emails or conversations.WE ARE NOT HERE TO BE YOUR FRIEND, LOVER WHAT HAVE YOU, WE ARE OWNERS. WE offer real enslavement with full informed consent nothing less than.

5/15/2014 11:02:45 PM

If you are unprepared to move forward stop wasting your time and ours. If you refuse to answer questions posed or just want  ongoing fodder, we will just move on with another potential more worthy  applicant.


Most on here just sit on the fence waiting for that unicorn that does not exist.

5/9/2014 10:58:26 PM

We as a society of strong willed and minded adults take this life style very seriously.For us it is much more then getting off or just kinky sex, it really is part of our daily lives.


How can any one properly evaluate a potential candidate{slave} without having at least pertinent information prior to asking questions through a dialogue?


We are going back to the requirement of each and every candidate filling out a detailed questionnaire if they honestly seek to move forward with us.

3/3/2014 8:20:41 PM

Well gentlemen the next 12 months are about to prove very interesting Good luck and hope you survive what is about to come our way!!

2/6/2014 12:43:21 PM

How insane, that many on here cannot handle reality, so they seek the fantasy, only to find the fantasy will never come close in reality. It is why it is fantasy, Reality is far more harsh

12/6/2013 9:00:03 PM

You know having been on this site for a very long time it amazes me how so called real slaves, subs, require potential owners, master, doms, and dommes to pay for relocation and all of this other crap.


Yet they state that they must make the choice  of who they choose,  strange how convenient that they want total slavery, no rights and such, yet in the same instant they demand everything.


Just more games, more players,

10/24/2013 8:50:24 PM

Profile has been re edited let's see how long it lasts this time!!

7/31/2013 3:42:45 PM

New update: We will be at Con.See you their!!!

6/5/2013 8:47:17 PM

Brief update : For those on the waiting list, We are creating a new slave house which will enable us to open up new houses.

5/20/2013 11:24:22 AM

So many these days call themselves this or that, yet when reality hits they cease being anything more then faceless cowards.



How sad it is in a world of technology and some of the most greatest advances in this evolution of mankind and yet we still cannot be honest and truth ful with ourselves, let alone our fellow man!!!

10/28/2012 5:20:13 PM

When former top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan Stanley McChrystal got called into the Oval Office by Barack Obama, he knew things weren't going to go well when the President accused him of not supporting Obama in his political role as President.  "Its not my job to support you as a politician, Mr. President, its my job to support you as Commander-in-Chief," McChrystal replied.  Not satisfied with accepting McChrystal's resignation the President made a cheap parting shot. "I bet when I die you'll be happy to piss on my grave."  The General saluted. "Mr. President, I always told myself after leaving the Army I'd never stand in line again."


7/3/2012 11:38:32 PM

If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin" - Samuel Adams

5/29/2012 10:54:20 PM













4/4/2012 5:51:51 PM








In 1887 Alexander Tyler , a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
The Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2012
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was
mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income
tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler 's definition of democracy,
with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached
the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years.

If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.

If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom..

This is truly scary! Of course we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic .. Someone should point this out to Obama. Of course we know he and too many others pay little attention to The Constitution. There couldn't be more at stake than on Nov 2012.



If you are as concerned as I am please pass this along.

3/21/2012 10:32:48 PM

All talk, no action these days by the watered down New Age Bdsm Community.How sad it is these days.




1/25/2012 5:00:34 PM

Gathering is scheduled for the end of February, check your mail. Mandatory voting on the changes.

12/31/2011 9:30:00 PM

Happy New Years folks!!

10/20/2011 12:43:51 AM

Members check your email the meeting date is announced.This is a mandatory  voting meeting.



9/6/2011 9:20:02 PM

Sadly, due to recent circumstances as a result of giving out  our yahoo messenger, we just spent the last two weeks fighting with yahoo to recover our account after someone who said they were real and legit turned out to be less than and much, much  worse.


They eventually hacked our account and nearly cost me a lot more then a few inconveniences. After they added us to their messenger, they then  proceeded to try to extort us and friends and use our yahoo id profile for their own purposes.


We have spent considerable time with various authorities trying to find a way to clear this up and repair the damage done.


So, now, we are in the process of putting into place a few conditions for those who honestly seek to move forward. We are finding that most legit people who wish to join our society or serve in our house hold readily accept these conditions because not only does it protect us, it allows those who honestly seek reality, long term the same security, we now require.


If you were to join a local bdsm club, the same conditions are required at the very least to ensure safety, privacy and security.



Normally, we would not go into details or divulge any of this information. However, due to the nature of the persons perpetrating this, how far they have gone, this was more then just trying to scam us for money, paying for relocation, gas , etc. 



After all of what has transpired,we are still not backing away from the way of life, we have been living for a very long time.Thanks to members of the society, friends within the greater bdsm community and others  sooner or later we will find these guys and we will nail them in a court of law.

8/13/2011 7:12:18 PM

NOTE: If you are a closed minded bigot or hypocrite, well then good luck.

If you choose to belittle degrade us in anyway then FUCK OFF!!!!!

8/9/2011 1:13:30 AM


The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3

months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That

was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc. Of the 27

amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law

of the land...all because of public pressure. This is one idea that really should be

passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and

receives no pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in

the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system

immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress

participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will

rise or fall by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same

health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7.Term limits for both houses.

8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.

The American people did not make this contract with congressmen.

Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an

honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours

should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

7/29/2011 12:33:13 PM

A Texan's Answer to Welfare.

This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco , TX .

Put me in charge . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps.   I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid.   The first thing I'd do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations.
Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercing's. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get tats and piercing's, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing.   Ever live in a military barracks?
You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your "home"will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you.. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the "common good.."

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules.. Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem," consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

If you have children who attend government/state schools then they will be expected to show up every day, homework in hand, and be polite to classmates and adults.  If they do not behave in a responsible, socially acceptable manner they will be asked to leave.  You will need to find another school that will take them or go to jail.   There is no reason other children's learning should suffer because you have raised a child who disrupts a class or doesn't do their work.  Behavior like that drags everyone else down.

AND While you are on Gov't subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov't welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

Now, if you have the guts - PASS IT ON...

7/18/2011 1:57:33 PM

Hmm, so many these days on this site and others are more interested in playing these childish games thinking they are getting the better of those who live this way of life. We know otherwise as both a group, an as a active house hold, I think we live a much more real life then those who just sit idly by and chastise or play these games. unlike most on here these days we do not consider 24/7 TPE to mean endless sexual fantasies and where it is all about the slave sub needs and desires. Real life has real life responsibilities and consequences, of which, most of you need a serious reality check if you believe the bull shit most try to float on this site and others.


We see more and more these days real lifestyle-rs leaving the public scene and going back to what we call the old ways. Perhaps they have grown tired of the bullshit as much as we have. Real in action or actions have real consequences. Your loss, we welcome a change back to the roots of the bdsm community.



Be real or shut the fuck up and move on.

6/6/2011 9:09:37 PM

Case in point, this makes number 5 of the number of fake profiles that are using pic's of members of the society. Be advised, we will keep alert and when we find those responsible we will take action.

5/31/2011 12:33:32 AM

Thank's everyone who attended the memorial day society get together. It was a blast.

5/21/2011 6:24:07 PM

WERE still here. I guess were not worthy!!!!



Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.

After many years of hard meditation and effort: enlightenment.


After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water!!


The journey is what makes the path less traveled more worthy of consideration then the path always traveled.

4/18/2011 5:40:58 PM













Keep it moving, please, even if you've seen it before.

It is the
not the preacher,
who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the
not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the
not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the

not the campus organizer,
who has given us freedom to assemble.

It is the
not the lawyer,
who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the
not the politician,
Who has given us the right to vote.

It is the

who salutes the Flag,

It is the
who serves under the Flag,


I'd be EXTREMELY proud if this email reached as many as possible. We can be very
proud of our young men and women in the service no matter where they serve.


God Bless them all!!!

Makes you proud to be an AMERICAN!!!!!

3/27/2011 4:53:34 AM


First we must take the time to thank those who follow our journals and those who are legit.

Look people most of those who we talk to are just window browsers.Most of the profile pics on other profiles of potential,owners/slaves are bogus.Stolen from other sites or others in general. Commercial pics these days include a digital copyright in bedded in them. They are just interested in finding the pretty people for the next mind fuck or tease, that they can mess with or worse just out right scam.Unlike many on here these days,we have no allusions of what we offer or what we seek?



There is no such thing as the perfect ideal bdsm situation. If there was, then there would not be anyone on here. I have never seen in my thirty years of living this and no one else in the society has either.Especially if it is reality based and not fantasy based. We live this day in day out, in sickness and in health in the vanilla world.Fantasies are great, however if you want real TPE enslavement, then it does requires considerable understanding and commitments by all parties involved. Even the most sick twisted enslavement requires a dose of reality in order for it to have any chance of success.We normally do not go into great detail, because it is a waste of our time, as we have found out most are only interested in their needs.This is not exclusive to this site most of the other bdsm adult related sites have the same problem. People wonder why so many are jaded and skeptical these days.Real slavery real TPE is about servitude.Serving others IE, your owners.It is the only thing that matters.



Remember, you only get what you can commit and have the intestinal fortitude to live it in reality.

2/8/2011 7:37:16 PM

this is what it is about:

1/10/2011 10:06:56 PM

HELLO KINKSTERS hope everyone had a wonderful holiday. We are expanding the group and allowing couples that are already in a commited owner/slave or owner/domme situation into the membership on a case by case basis.


This does not change the rules of this not being a swinger group.


Let us clarify when we ask you to be verified, understand everyone entering our society whether they be slaves or owners go through this process No one is exmempt.


Most clubs, bdsm or otherwise requires this as well just to walk through their doors. Real people who have real lives all voted for this many, many years ago. 

12/24/2010 12:41:12 AM
Tipping Point: 25 Signs That The Coming Financial Collapse Is Now Closer Than Ever

The financial collapse that so many of us have been anticipating is seemingly closer then ever.  Over the past several weeks, there have been a host of ominous signs for the U.S. economy.  Yields on U.S. Treasuries have moved up rapidly and Moody's is publicly warning that it may have to cut the rating on U.S. government debt soon.  Mortgage rates are also moving up aggressively.  The euro and the U.S. dollar both look incredibly shaky.  Jobs continue to be shipped out of the United States at a blistering pace as our politicians stand by and do nothing.  Confidence in U.S. government debt around the globe continues to decline.  State and local governments that are drowning in debt across the United States are savagely cutting back on even essential social services and are coming up with increasingly "creative" ways of getting more money out of all of us.  Meanwhile, tremor after tremor continues to strike the world financial system.  So does this mean that we have almost reached a tipping point?  Is the world on the verge of a major financial collapse?

Let's hope not, but with each passing week the financial news just seems to get eve worse.  Not only is U.S. government debt spinning wildly toward a breaking point, but many U.S. states (such as California) are in such horrific financial condition that they are beginning to resemble banana republics.

But it is not just the United States that is in trouble.  Nightmarish debt problems in Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Belgium and several other European nations threaten to crash the euro at any time.  In fact, many economists are now openly debating which will collapse first - the euro or the U.S. dollar.

Sadly, this is the inevitable result of constructing a global financial system on debt.  All debt bubbles eventually collapse.  Currently we are living in the biggest debt bubble in the history of the world, and when this one bursts it is going to be a disaster of truly historic proportions.

So will we reach a tipping point soon?  Well, the following are 25 signs that the financial collapse is rapidly getting closer....

#1 The official U.S. unemployment rate has not been beneath 9 percent since April 2009

.The unoffical unemployment rate is double, in some models triple the current official rate.


#2 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are currently 6.3 million vacant homes

in the United States that are either for sale or for rent.


#3 It is being projected that the U.S. trade deficit with China could hit 270 billion dollars

for the entire year of 2010.

#4 Back in 2000, 7.2 percent of blue

collar workers were either unemployed or underemployed.  Today that figure is up to 19.5 percent



#5 The Chinese government has accumulated approximately $2.65 trillion

in total foreign exchange reserves.  They have drained this wealth from the economies of other nations (such as the United States) and instead of reinvesting all of it they are just sitting on much of it.  This is creating tremendous imbalances in the global economy.


#6 Since the year 2000, we have lost 10%

of our middle class jobs.  In the year 2000 there were approximately 72 million middle class jobs in the United States but today there are only about 65 million middle class jobs.


#7 The United States now employs about the same number of people in manufacturing as it did back in 1940

.  Considering the fact that we had 132 million people living in this country in 1940 and that we have well over 300 million people living in this country today, that is a very sobering statistic.


#8 According to CoreLogic, U.S. housing prices have now declined for three months in a row



#9 The average rate on a 30 year fixed rate mortgage soared 11 basis points

just this past week.  As mortgage rates continue to push higher it is going to make it even more difficult for American families to afford homes.


#10 22.5 percent of all residential mortgages in the United States were in negative equity

as of the end of the third quarter of 2010.


#11 The U.S. monetary base has more than doubled

since the beginning of the most recent recession.


#12 U.S. Treasury yields have been rising steadily during the 4th quarter of 2010 and recently hit a six-month high



#13 Incoming governor Jerry Brown is scrambling to find $29 billion more to cut from the California state budget.  The following quote from Brown

about the desperate condition of California state finances is not going to do much to inspire confidence in California's financial situation around the globe....


"We've been living in fantasy land. It is much worse than I thought. I'm shocked."

#14 24.3 percent

of the residents of El Centro, California are currently unemployed.


#15 The average home in Merced, California has declined in value by 63 percent

over the past four years.


#16 Detroit Mayor Dave Bing has come up with a new way to save money.  He wants to cut 20 percent of Detroit

off from essential social services such as road repairs, police patrols, functioning street lights and garbage collection.


#17 The second most dangerous city in the United States - Camden, New Jersey - is about to lay off about half its police

in a desperate attempt to save money.


#18 In 2010, 55 percent

of Americans between the ages of 60 and 64 were in the labor market.  Ten years ago, that number was just 47 percent.  More older Americans than ever find that they have to keep working just to survive.


#19 Back in 1998, the United States had 25 percent of the world’s high-tech export market and China had just 10 percent. Ten years later, the United States had less than 15 percent and China's share had soared to 20 percent



#20 The U.S. government budget deficit increased to a whopping $150.4 billion last month, which represented the biggest November budget deficit on record



#21 The U.S. government is somehow going to have to roll over existing debt and finance new debt that is equivalent to 27.8 percent of GDP

in 2011.


#22 The United States had been the leading consumer of energy on the globe for about 100 years, but this past summer China took over the number one spot



#23 According to an absolutely stunning new poll, 40 percent of all U.S. doctors

plan to bail out of the profession over the next three years.


#24 As 2007 began, there were just over 1 million Americans that had been unemployed for half a year or longer.  Today, there are over 6 million Americans

that have been unemployed for half a year or longer.


#25 All over the United States, local governments have begun instituting "police response fees".  For example, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has come up with a plan under which a fee of $365

would be charged if police are called to respond to an automobile accident where no injuries are involved.  If there are injuries as a result of the crash that is going to cost extra.

Share and Enjoy:

11/23/2010 8:39:54 PM

As a group we have chosen to not place pics of our members on this site or on any site.Please respect that choice.

10/28/2010 4:25:51 AM

Pet peeve.Why is it when you ask potential candidates what being a slave is or define what a slave is?
They ignore the request or give a generic remark that does not show they have a good grasp on living as a real slave.

We do understand are many variations  to a degree as to each owners/masters definition of real slavery is unique.
How ever  you should be able to at the very least give a response that tells us you have the mind set and comprehend the choice you are making.

This is why we require anyone applying to either as members of the society or as property within the society to be fully informed.
Potential applicants must provide us with informed consent.

Same thing goes for what defines extreme, real slavery or hard core?

10/10/2010 8:16:15 PM
Money is a great servant,but a terrible master

9/20/2010 5:31:38 AM
Two more house holds have been approved to join the society. Please see the group home page for more info.For those whining about the slow process deal with it.

7/31/2010 10:33:35 PM
Cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely.
If you cross the Afghan border illegally, you get shot.
If you cross the Saudi Arabian border illegally you will be jailed.
If you cross the Chinese border illegally you may never be heard from again.
If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.
If you cross the Mexican border illegally you will be jailed for two years.
If you cross the Cuban border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.
If you cross the United States border illegally you get:
1 - A job
2 - A driver's license
3 - A Social Security card
4 - Welfare
5 - Food stamps
6 - Credit cards
7 - Subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house
8 - Free education
9 - Free health care
10 - A lobbyist in Washington
11 - Billions of dollars in public documents printed in your language
12 - Millions of servicemen and women who are willing to – and do – die for your right to the ways and means of our constitution
13 - And the right to carry the flag of your country - the one you walked out on – while you call America racist and protest that you don't get enough respect.

7/30/2010 5:04:17 AM

Subject: 2011 TAX HIKES
Read it and weep!
In just six months, the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect. 
They will hit families and small businesses in three great waves on January 1, 2011:

First Wave:
Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief
In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for investors, small business owners, and families.  These tax cuts are all scheduled to expire on January 1, 2011:

Personal income tax rates will rise.  

The lowest rate will rise from 10 to 15 percent.  All the rates in between will also rise. The top income tax rate will rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which two-thirds of small business profits are taxed).  

Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will be phased out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax rates.  The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:
- The 10% bracket rises to an expanded 15%
- The 25% bracket rises to 28%
- The 28% bracket rises to 31%
- The 33% bracket rises to 36%
- The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%

Higher taxes on marriage and family.    

The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child.  

The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level.  

The dependent care and adoption tax credits will be cut.

The return of the Death Tax.  This year, there is no death tax.  

For those dying on or after January 1 2011, there is a 55 percent  top death tax rate.  

Higher tax rates on RETIREES, Savers and Investors.

The capital gains tax on investment income will rise from 15 percent this year to 20 percent in 2011. 

The dividends tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 39.6 percent in 2011. 

These rates will rise another 3.8 percent in 2013.

Second Wave:
There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare.  

Several will first go into effect on January 1, 2011.  They include:

The "Medicine Cabinet Tax" 
Thanks to Obamacare, Americans will no longer be able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin).

The "Special Needs Kids Tax"

This provision of Obamacare imposes a cap on flexible spending accounts (FSAs) of $2500 (Currently, there is no federal government limit).  There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education.  Under tax rules, FSA dollars cannot be used to pay for this type of special needs education.  

The HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike.

This provision of Obamacare increases the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent.

Third Wave:
The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes

When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2011,they'll be in for a nasty surprise-many AMT tax relief provisions will have expired.
The major items include:

The AMT will now apply to over 28 million families, up from 4 million last year. 
These families will have to pay taxes at the higher level.  The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.

Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will disappear.  Small businesses can normally expense (rather than slowly-deduct, or depreciate") equipment purchases up to $250,000.

This will be cut all the way down to $25,000. Larger businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment.  In January of 2011, all of it will have to be "depreciated."

Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. 
There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will take place.  The biggest is the loss of the "research and experimentation tax credit," but there are many, many others.  Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.

Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. 
The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available.

Tax credits for education will be limited.

Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses.

Education Savings Accounts will be cut. 

Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed.

The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.

Charitable Contributions from IRAs are no longer allowed. 
Under current law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per year directly to a charity from their IRA.  This contribution also counts toward an annual "required minimum distribution."  This ability will no longer be there.

Now your insurance is INCOME on your W2's...... 
One of the surprises we'll find come next year, is what follows - - a little "surprise" that 99% of us had no idea was included in the "new and improved" healthcare legislation

Starting in 2011, (next year folks), your W-2 tax form sent by your employer will be increased to show the value of whatever health insurance you are given by the company.

You will now be required to pay taxes on a large sum of money that you have never seen. 

Take your tax form you just finished and see what $15,000 or $20,000 additional gross does to your Tax debt.  That's what you'll pay next year.  For many, it also puts you into a new higher bracket so it's even worse.

This is how the government is going to buy insurance for the15% that don't have insurance and it's only part of the tax increases.

Joan Pryde is the senior tax editor for the Kiplinger letters. Go to Kiplingers and read about 13 tax changes that could affect you.  Number 3 is what is above.

Why am I sending you this?  The same reason I hope you forward this to every single person in your address book.
People have the right to know the truth because an election is coming in November.

7/14/2010 9:23:24 PM
Guns only have two enemies politicians and rust.

7/3/2010 6:17:21 AM
Happy 4th .Please  take a moment to thank a vet or thank a soldier in harms way this 4th.of july weekend.DeOpresso Liber

6/30/2010 11:51:04 PM

6/13/2010 8:29:46 PM
50 Statistics About The U.S. Economy That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe

Most Americans know that the U.S. economy is in bad shape, but what most Americans don't know is how truly desperate the financial situation of the United States really is. The truth is that what we are experiencing is not simply a "downturn" or a "recession". What we are witnessing is the beginning of the end for the greatest economic machine that the world has ever seen. Our greed and our debt are literally eating our economy alive. Total government, corporate and personal debt has now reached 360 percent of GDP, which is far higher than it ever reached during the Great Depression era. We have nearly totally dismantled our once colossal manufacturing base, we have shipped millions upon millions of middle class jobs overseas, we have lived far beyond our means for decades and we have created the biggest debt bubble in the history of the world. A great day of financial reckoning is fast approaching, and the vast majority of Americans are totally oblivious.

But the truth is that you cannot defy the financial laws of the universe forever. What goes up must come down. The borrower is the servant of the lender. Cutting corners always catches up with you in the end.

Sometimes it takes cold, hard numbers for many of us to fully realize the situation that we are facing.

So, the following are 50 very revealing statistics about the U.S. economy that are almost too crazy to believe....

#50) In 2010 the U.S. government is projected to issue almost as much new debt as the rest of the governments of the world combined.

#49) It is being projected that the U.S. government will have a budget deficit of approximately 1.6 trillion dollars in 2010.

#48) If you went out and spent one dollar every single second, it would take you more than 31,000 years to spend a trillion dollars.

#47) In fact, if you spent one million dollars every single day since the birth of Christ, you still would not have spent one trillion dollars by now.

#46) Total U.S. government debt is now up to 90 percent of gross domestic product.

#45) Total credit market debt in the United States, including government, corporate and personal debt, has reached 360 percent of GDP.

#44) U.S. corporate income tax receipts were down 55% (to $138 billion) for the year ending September 30th, 2009.

#43) There are now 8 counties in the state of California that have unemployment rates of over 20 percent.

#42) In the area around Sacramento, California there is one closed business for every six that are still open.

#41) In February, there were 5.5 unemployed Americans for every job opening.

#40) According to a Pew Research Center study, approximately 37% of all Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 have either been unemployed or underemployed at some point during the recession.

#39) More than 40% of those employed in the United States are now working in low-wage service jobs.

#38) According to one new survey, 24% of American workers say that they have postponed their planned retirement age in the past year.

#37) Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009, which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008. Not only that, more Americans filed for bankruptcy in March 2010 than during any month since U.S. bankruptcy law was tightened in October 2005.

#36) Mortgage purchase applications in the United States are down nearly 40 percent from a month ago to their lowest level since April of 1997.

#35) RealtyTrac has announced that foreclosure filings in the U.S. established an all time record for the second consecutive year in 2009.

#34) According to RealtyTrac, foreclosure filings were reported on 367,056 properties in March 2010, an increase of nearly 19 percent from February, an increase of nearly 8 percent from March 2009 and the highest monthly total since RealtyTrac began issuing its report in January 2005.

#33) In Pinellas and Pasco counties, which include St. Petersburg, Florida and the suburbs to the north, there are 34,000 open foreclosure cases. Ten years ago, there were only about 4,000.

#32) In California's Central Valley, 1 out of every 16 homes is in some phase of foreclosure.

#31) The Mortgage Bankers Association recently announced that more than 10 percent of all U.S. homeowners with a mortgage had missed at least one payment during the January to March time period. That was a record high and up from 9.1 percent a year ago.

#30) U.S. banks repossessed nearly 258,000 homes nationwide in the first quarter of 2010, a 35 percent jump from the first quarter of 2009.

#29) For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together.

#28) More than 24% of all homes with mortgages in the United States were underwater as of the end of 2009.

#27) U.S. commercial property values are down approximately 40 percent since 2007 and currently 18 percent of all office space in the United States is sitting vacant.

#26) Defaults on apartment building mortgages held by U.S. banks climbed to a record 4.6 percent in the first quarter of 2010. That was almost twice the level of a year earlier.

#25) In 2009, U.S. banks posted their sharpest decline in private lending since 1942.

#24) New York state has delayed paying bills totalling $2.5 billion as a short-term way of staying solvent but officials are warning that its cash crunch could soon get even worse.

#23) To make up for a projected 2010 budget shortfall of $280 million, Detroit issued $250 million of 20-year municipal notes in March. The bond issuance followed on the heels of a warning from Detroit officials that if its financial state didn't improve, it could be forced to declare bankruptcy.

#22) The National League of Cities says that municipal governments will probably come up between $56 billion and $83 billion short between now and 2012.

#21) Half a dozen cash-poor U.S. states have announced that they are delaying their tax refund checks.

#20) Two university professors recently calculated that the combined unfunded pension liability for all 50 U.S. states is 3.2 trillion dollars.

#19) According to EconomicPolicyJourn, 32 U.S. states have already run out of funds to make unemployment benefit payments and so the federal government has been supplying these states with funds so that they can make their payments to the unemployed.

#18) This most recession has erased 8 million private sector jobs in the United States.

#17) Paychecks from private business shrank to their smallest share of personal income in U.S. history during the first quarter of 2010.

#16) U.S. government-provided benefits (including Social Security, unemployment insurance, food stamps and other programs) rose to a record high during the first three months of 2010.

#15) 39.68 million Americans are now on food stamps, which represents a new all-time record. But things look like they are going to get even worse. The U.S. Department of Agriculture is forecasting that enrollment in the food stamp program will exceed 43 million Americans in 2011.

#14) Phoenix, Arizona features an astounding annual car theft rate of 57,000 vehicles and has become the new "Car Theft Capital of the World".

#13) U.S. law enforcement authorities claim that there are now over 1 million members of criminal gangs inside the country. These 1 million gang members are responsible for up to 80% of the crimes committed in the United States each year.

#12) The U.S. health care system was already facing a shortage of approximately 150,000 doctors in the next decade or so, but thanks to the health care "reform" bill passed by Congress, that number could swell by several hundred thousand more.

#11) According to an analysis by the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation the health care "reform" bill will generate $409.2 billion in additional taxes on the American people by 2019.

#10) The Dow Jones Industrial Average just experienced the worst May it has seen since 1940.

#9) In 1950, the ratio of the average executive's paycheck to the average worker's paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.

#8) Approximately 40% of all retail spending currently comes from the 20% of American households that have the highest incomes.

#7) According to economists Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez, two-thirds of income increases in the U.S. between 2002 and 2007 went to the wealthiest 1% of all Americans.

#6) The bottom 40 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation's wealth.

#5) If you only make the minimum payment each and every time, a $6,000 credit card bill can end up costing you over $30,000 (depending on the interest rate).

#4) According to a new report based on U.S. Census Bureau data, only 26 percent of American teens between the ages of 16 and 19 had jobs in late 2009 which represents a record low since statistics began to be kept back in 1948.

#3) According to a National Foundation for Credit Counseling survey, only 58% of those in "Generation Y" pay their monthly bills on time.

#2) During the first quarter of 2010, the total number of loans that are at least three months past due in the United States increased for the 16th consecutive quarter.

#1) According to the Tax Foundation's Microsimulation Model, to erase the 2010 U.S. budget deficit, the U.S. Congress would have to multiply each tax rate by 2.4. Thus, the 10 percent rate would be 24 percent, the 15 percent rate would be 36 percent, and the 35 percent rate would have to be 85 percent.

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6/8/2010 8:06:19 PM
Two weeks and counting

5/31/2010 4:46:24 AM
Happy memorial day.
For those comrades in arms who are serving our country while in harms way  We hope you are mission successful and come home safe.


 For those society members currently Deployed may your house blossom while you are on duty.You have the full support of the membership

Take a moment to thank those who gave their all for with out their ultimate sacrifice,  you may never have existed to enjoy the freedoms you now take for granted.

Our deepest sympathy and respect for your sacrifice and what your family has lost

May your next path of this journey be a peaceful one. 

4/26/2010 2:31:51 PM
WE just love it when people try to blow smoke up our asses and try to make us believe they are honest, trust worthy without giving any proof ?? Guess not!!! Gathering for June is on track.

We reserve the right to take anything discussed in correspondence at face value.

3/22/2010 3:27:43 AM
So few are real these days. Too many players or swingers with a kink on the side mindset.Select male slaves will be judged on a case by case basis.
We get litterly hundreds of emails a day from male slave types.What makes you stand out, that we would even remotely consider you? If you think this is about your needs or desire or sex better just move on.



2/21/2010 11:03:52 PM


2/16/2010 11:44:23 AM
"A Government big enough to give you everything, is big enough to take it away" - Thomas Jefferson

If you cannot stand behind our troops, please feel free to stand in front of them.

Don't let what you cannot do, interfere with what you can do!

Only 2 defining forces has ever agreed to die for you. One is Jesus Christ,the other,  your country's soldier. One died for your soul. The other for your freedom.

1/8/2010 11:33:51 AM

Clarification: We are not republicans, conservatives, liberals or progressives. We are Americans!!! Or at least some of us are.
Don't Forget to Vote !!
This may be well your last opertuinity to take back our country.

Take a look at this and remember elections in Nov. 2010.

U.S. House & Senate have voted themselves $4,700 and $5,300 raises.

1. They voted to not give you a S.S. Cost of living raise in 2010 and 2011

2. Your Medicare premiums will go up $285.60 for the 2-years and

You will not get the 3% COLA: $660/yr. Your total 2-yr loss and cost is

-$1,600 or -$3,200 for husband and wife.

3. Over 2-yrs they each get $10,000

4. Do you feel SCREWED?

5. Will they have your cost of drugs - doctor fees - local taxes - food, etc., increase?

NO WAY . They have a raise and better benefits. Why care about you? You never did anything about it in the past. You obviously are too stupid or don't care.

6... Do you really think that Nancy, Harry, Chris, Charlie, Barnie, et al, care about you? SEND THE MESSAGE-- You're FIRED.




It is ok to forward this to your sphere of influence if you are finally tired of the abuse.

Maybe it's time for the..........

Amendment 28

"Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United

States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives,

and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or

Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the

United States ."

Let's get this passed around, folks - these people in Washington have brought this upon themselves!!! It's time for retribution. Let's take back America .

If you don't forward this to all your friends you're just part of the problem of national apathy.


11/25/2009 4:40:22 AM
Update, We do not have a problem with foreign slaves applying.For the Record,we do have a problem with slaves MISREPRESENTING their real locations.We understand the need for privacy, we take it pretty seriously. However, if you are going to apply, be advised unless you are capable and responsible enough to relocate fully, then do not try to lead us on otherwise.

11/17/2009 9:05:08 PM
Update the votes are coming in once tallied the result will be posted.Action taken

7/3/2009 12:05:32 AM

If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny. — Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark. -- Howard Ruff

Remember; when disaster strikes, the time to prepare has passed. -- Steven Cyros

You are responsible for what happens to you.
You won't have trouble if you are prepared for it. -- Fr. Frog

1/30/2009 3:17:40 PM





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