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We are looking again ... still ... whatever. Please read the full profile so that you have at least the basics of what we are looking for - it will save a lot of time for everyone involved.
Major things to avoid doing:
-invite me to chat with you - I hate the program on this site and refuse to use it. If you request a chat, it will be declined, and I'll be irritated that you didn't bother to follow directions.
-use net-speak - it's annoying, irritating, and shows a lack of discipline, in my opinion. If you are too lazy to type "you" instead of "u" ... then how do I know that you'll follow through with more difficult tasks like helping with yard work or housework?
-call me Mistress - you haven't earned that yet, we'll let you know if you are allowed to call us that
-call me ma'am - I just hate it, don't do it.
What we are looking for:
a male submissive to add to our family. Someone that will eventually marry me (Karen - Holly is marrying our first boy), so it has to be someone that can and will get along with my family ... which could be quite a challenge. Someone that we have things in common with, someone that we can love like we love each other and our current boy. This is a family and we intend for it to stay that way, we just want a fourth member. We are looking for a 'full' relationship. This includes everything from cleaning the litter box to snuggling before bed and everything in between. We are not looking for a cuckold, we are not looking for a traditional butler ... we are looking for a pet - which, to us, means someone that we will love, cherish and care for as he serves us (we aren't real big on puppy/pony/other animal play ... we have enough actual animals, thanks).
We also do NOT cyber - don't ask, the answer is always going to be no. We don't want to get involved in other people's relationships, we don't want to dominate anyone over the internet ... neither do anything for us, so we don't do it.
Please be aware that Holly and I both have some significant health issues. If you aren't ok with taking care of someone with health problems (mental and/or physical), then this is not the place for you. And in a slightly related note - our health issues prevent having children, so if you MUST have children, this is most definitely not the place for you.
Basic requirements:
*No smoking - I'm seriously allergic to it and cannot tolerate it.
*No illegal drug use, and no legal drug abuse (i.e. occasional drinks are ok, but if you need to drink daily, I can promise you that we are not a good match ... )
*Must be US resident/citizen.
*Must be relocatable (realistically ... we aren't expecting this to happen tomorrow, but we don't want to wait years) - this means that we are not interested in online relationships. It must eventually move to r/t.
*We prefer Caucasians
*Single - If you are cheating on your wife/girlfriend/whomever, we aren't going to be interested, no matter how strenuously you state that you'll leave her for us ... that's not how we work and we won't talk to you further.
*We are only looking for guys born from 1981 to 1971 (ages change, birth years don't LOL) - we have found that much younger or much older just don't have anything in common with us, exceptions may be made if you are close to the age range, but it's very unlikely
*Must be able to get along with others - this includes people and animals. We are poly (two Dommes and a sub, looking for a second sub) and we own a small zoo which includes cats, dogs, rats, birds, rabbits, chickens, guinea pigs, gerbils, a mouse, pigs, turtles, a frog and fish, so we definitely give preference to animal lovers. Included in this is the fact that you must not have any delusions about Pitbulls being evil monsters or have anything against little dogs like Shih Tzus or French Bulldogs.
*Must not have any delusions about splitting up the already established group (Holly and I have been together since 1999, and rob has been with us since 2003 - we're pretty secure and stable ... don't try to destabilize the group)
*we only want males - we don't do forced fem, we aren't into cross-dressing (nothing against it, just doesn't do anything for either of us) and if you are female, or list yourself as such (and that includes a 'male' listed profile with a female name) - we aren't going to be interested. This means no femsubs, no people who identify as female, no couples, etc. When we want fem, Holly and I have each other.
*Must be able to interact on a "vanilla" level, as well as a D/s level (we want this to be a long-term thing, potentially including marriage - if we can't take you out in public comfortably, we aren't interested)
*Must be able to live out in the middle of B.F.E. and preferably will enjoy our corn/bean fields as much as we do
*If you have a latex fetish, this isn't the place for you - latex allergies suck, but are an unfortunate reality.
*Being a gamer is a plus, but not required (although, be aware, you may be required to play RPGs with us - you've been warned)
*Please avoid referring to yourself in the third person. I know that some dominants require it - I find it rather annoying. If you are speaking about yourself, say "I" "me" "myself" etc. I also would appreciate at least an attempt at proper spelling and grammar. I grew up in a household with an elementary school teacher - I'm a card-carrying member of the grammar police. I don't expect perfection, but I do expect some effort to be put into any communication.
*Please put something in your message that lets us know that you really did read the profile - starting with: do not call us "Mistress(es)" as you are not owned by us yet, and do not call me "Ma'am" because I hate it, and if you haven't figured out that there is no "sir" in this family, then I will delete your message automatically. Telling us some of your non-BDSM interests would be good. A one line message is not good (a one word message is even worse). If you don't have a picture up on your profile, we expect a tasteful pic to be sent relatively quickly (within a week of initial contact if we are still talking). If you use an obvious form letter, I will not reply. If you mention your sex life/experience (or lack there of), I will not reply. If you send us inappropriate pictures, I will not reply. If you write us a well thought out, polite message that shows you really did read the profile, I will reply to you even if I feel that we are entirely incompatible.
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Dating a boy - have been out twice, looking forward to more dates and possibly adding him to the family. We'll see how things go. |
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Saw a post where someone was complaining about dominant people saying "please" and "thank you" ... Granted, it was someone who identifies as a slave, and I can kind of see their point ... but at the same time, just because I say "please" or "thank you" to our boy(s) doesn't mean that it's a request. It simply means that I don't have to be a complete bitch to him/them. I was raised to be polite - even to people that I am in charge of. I don't need to be rude to anyone - random person on the street, family member, coworker, subordinate, inmate (I do work in a prison), minion, submissive, slave ... doesn't matter ... and it doesn't make me any less dominant than the bitch who never says please or thank you (in fact, in my opinion, someone like that is just trying too hard to "prove" they are dominant). |
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Leaving tomorrow morning for Iowa. Will not be able to access the site from there. There are a couple of e-mails that I WILL reply to when I get back, but I don't really see the point in replying now since then I'll promptly be leaving and unable to converse further. |
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Saw a profile that says "if I can get out of it, it's not bondage"
My response to that is "if you're deliberately trying to get out of it, you're not obedient" ...
Unless it's a roleplaying thing where you are supposed to try and get out of it, then seriously ... stay where you are told ... |
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Planning a trip to Iowa for the end of summer. Still looking for friends out in the Waterloo area ... |
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So, date is cancelled, will most likely not be rescheduled. Time to move on, yet again. |
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A few grammar pet peeves of mine:
We are dominant (adj.). We dominate (verb) our boys.
If you are "bored" then you lack stimulation. A "board" is a plank of wood.
Their = belonging to them; They're = they are; There = a place, as in "over there"
Your = belonging to you; You're = you are; Yore = long ago
A lot = multiple; Allot = to distribute or parcel out; "Alot" is not a word
And of course "U" "R" and "C" are not words, they are letters ... oh, and if you use "2" you had better mean the number two, not to or too. |
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Why is it that so many people seem to think that being dominant equals being a raging bitch-a-saurus rex? Blah.
In other news, I have one week before going on vacation. I will be unable to get into my CM account for about 7 days. Those of you who have my yahoo or gmail, please feel free to contact me - but otherwise, I will be out of touch. |
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It occasionally occurs to me that my job has made me even more demented than I already was. I work as a nurse in corrections, and in a discussion with one of my cousins (who had posted a picture from his replicant's school that shows they are only allowed spoons at this point) I realized that I know of at least 10 ways to make an easily concealable shank. I don't know if I should be proud, or worried LOL |
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Planning to be in Iowa in mid-late March. Would love to make some new friends out there. |
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So, after I posted that last post on my birthday, Holly managed to cut her finger badly enough to need stitches, and I now have a blind spot in my right eye that probably won't be going away. This is not a good holiday season for us at this point - I only hope that it gets better. |
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Birthday today - I'm 35 years old ... feels about the same as 34 did ... hell, feels about the same as 30 did. But I got a new puppy, a new phone, and fancy cheesecake - it's a good day :-) |
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Have been sick the last two days, feeling better now. Hoping that I continue to improve so that I can go to the Ren Faire tomorrow in Fishers. |
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Does anyone play RuneScape? |
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Holly bought me a new kitten today - she's a Manx with the stumpiest tail I've ever seen (seriously, her tail is only 1 vertebrae long). She's ADORABLE!!! |
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Going to garage sales today :-) |
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headed into work - those of you who have my e-mail addy, please feel free to e-mail me and keep me entertained. I have a feeling that tonight will be a long night filled with boring paperwork. |
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Only being able to work outside for 5 minutes at a time means that doing anything takes forever ... we need another set of hands to get things done faster lol |
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Thinking about my next trip to Iowa already. Have to figure out when a good time to go will be. Not really thrilled at the idea of going in the winter, but not sure if I'll have enough PTO to go this fall ... |
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We lost one of our dogs today. Anarchy was a good girl, and she will be missed. |
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I'm home, I'm tired. I love spending time with my family, but it wears me out lol |
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Leaving for the Waterloo, Iowa area tomorrow. Don't know if I'll be around to reply to messages or not, so be patient with me if you try to get hold of me. I will definitely be back in Indiana (and thus have access to my computer and the site) by the 7th. |
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Handing out clues again:
If you tell me that you've read our profile, then you'd better have at least clicked on the "view full profile" button so that you show up on the "who's viewing me" list - otherwise, I know you're full of shit. Claiming to have read the profile and using "mistress" or "ma'am" is another quick way to set off my bullshit detector. You haven't earned the right to call either of us "mistress" and I HATE being called "ma'am".
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Working too much, and now I have a headache that is threatening to become a migraine. I think it's about time for me to pass out. Have a good night all. |
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Two days of being out in fresh-cut grass is NOT good for allergies. My whole body itches, my eyes are running, and my nose is doing a fair impression of a leaky faucet. Blah. |
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Handing out clues here ...
I work in corrections - if you have a picture of yourself doing something illegal that they would actually prosecute you for (for example, using drugs, underage drinking, etc), then we aren't going to be interested. There really aren't a lot of things that are automatic dis-qualifiers with your profile pics, but yeah ... those are up there on the list.
Also, if you have a criminal record in the state of Indiana, I can't associate with you, so we aren't going to be interested. I'm not going to risk a job that I enjoy and have been doing for 6 years now on the chance that some random stranger who happens to have a criminal record is the perfect match for us - sorry, but jobs aren't that easy to come by, and I don't want to lose mine. |
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Well, we got the drop spindle last weekend, this weekend, we're getting a pig, and we're going to start looking for angora rabbits and goats. I'd say we're pretty well on our way to becoming small-time farmers. |
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Went to the coolest gun show ever today - mostly period guns from colonial america to just post-civil war. Also had all kinds of craft things - bought a hand-made wooden mortar and pestle and a drop spindle with some wool. Now we just need another boy to help us with our little homestead ;-P |
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Been talking to my family in Iowa about visiting. I don't think I'll be able to get time off work until May or June though ... that's a long time to go without seeing the replicants *sigh* I haven't seen them since early October because they didn't come for Thanksgiving or Christmas this year.
Still trying to find friends out that direction. They live in the Waterloo/Cedar Falls area. |
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Having to change a tire in the dark, in a shady neighborhood is not my idea of fun. At least it wasn't raining, though. |
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For those who have talked to me in the past:
I had to get a new computer, and of course, I can't get into my old YIM account because I can't remember the password any more. I have a new one - message me, and I might give you the new ID ;-P |
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I'm 34 years old today. Don't feel any different than I did last year or the year before, though. Just another day, except that I get presents LOL
Got a Nook, and Holly and rob are thinking about getting me a magazine subscription for it. Also got a little speaker for my portable DVD player (so I can actually hear it now), a new insulated cup, and a few other little things that just made my day. My parents took me out for lunch yesterday, and gave me a bunch of Christmas CD's - so I was pretty happy with that too.
Now I just need someone to keep the dogs busy so I can read LOL |
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I originally posted this a couple of years ago, but I think it's time to bring it back up where it can be seen by people thinking about messaging us ...
Posting a profile on here, is, in many ways, a way to "put your best foot forward" so to speak. So, why exactly do a lot of guys seem to think that posting a picture of their schlong is the way to do that? I always check pictures before messaging someone, and I saw a pic that was a bare butt ... which is - eh, ok. So I clicked to the next picture and was just disgusted. It's not that it was ugly or gross - but inappropriate, yes. I understand not wanting to show faces on a site like this, but I have no desire to see a random guy's parts. And if they think that is "putting their best foot forward" then they need to learn some basic social skills ...
For the record, I happen to be a nurse in a prison system - I've pretty much seen it all: long, short, dirty, clean, thick, thin, old, young, cut, uncut ... and in most of the skin tones. I do NOT need to see yours. That basically dumps you into the same catagory as the inmates at work who flash me when I'm trying to do my job - icky and totally undatable (and thus, unfuckable).
If and when I want to see someone's genitals - I'll tell them. Until then, keep them to yourself, thanks. |
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The life of an evolving farmer is not always easy. We've got our garden, we've got our chickens; we're planning for goats, sheep, and maybe a donkey; we've already got the requisit 'farm dogs' and 'barn cats' (although, I think only one of the cats would ever actually contemplate living in a barn lol); we've got smaller grazers that can potentially be food (although we'll probably sell them as pets - they are rabbits and guinea pigs); we're learning to can (I think we're making pickles this weekend ...) and doing various other things to prepare for what Holly thinks is the inevitable collapse of civilization.
Problem is, now we're attracting some attention ... like from the field mice who have decided that our chicken feed is tastier than what they were finding in the fields ... and even better, the local mountain lion and a couple of red-tailed hawks (the former ate 6 of our meat chickens awhile back, the latter was attempting to get some of our hens today). Plus the neighbors' dogs have all figured out that we have chickens and rabbits outside and they try to get a meal from us at least once a week ... while I know I should have expected it, I'm not exactly thrilled that the local wildlife (along with the dogs belonging to people who let them roam loose) have decided that our house is a good place to pick up a meal. |
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Well, I didn't get the promotion that I interviewed for, but I think I'll get the next one I try for ...
In other news, my relatives in MI are now moving to Iowa (my brother's new job starts Aug 15). Any friendly people in Iowa (Waterloo area, I believe) who would like to meet up to distract me from my crazy family from time to time? |
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I'm contemplating a massive change in my life. There is an administrator's position opening up shortly in the company that I work for. I don't particularly want it, but I know I could do it and do it well. I also know that chances are, if I don't at least try for it, I may get stuck with someone that I know for a fact isn't stable enough to be reliable at the job. Or, I may get stuck with someone who is a complete ass. They may bring in some random person who has no idea how this particular facility runs. Even though I don't want the job, I'd rather do it myself than deal with someone else's incompetence.
Now I just have to decide if it's really worth it to me. |
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Woohoo! Power is flickering, puppies are running amuck, and big dogs are currently acting like they are terrified (no idea why, other than the power flickered). This should be a fun night ... |
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There are times, when I just want to pound my head against a wall (or someone else's ...).
I am not a goddess, I am not an angel, I am not a saint. I am human. I am prone to being a klutz (case in point, I managed to knock myself silly with my own car trunk lid yesterday), fits of anger (see first sentence), and making all kinds of mistakes. I know that there are some dominants who want to be referred to as "goddess" - that's NOT us. To me, that puts too much pressure on me to be perfect, and I'm the first to admit that I am far from perfect. In my opinion, it's not a compliment when someone calls me that - it's like they are putting an expectation on me and if I fail, then they will be disappointed.
I'm talking with a guy who just gushes about how wonderful I am because of my job - it's a job. It's what I do and someone has to do it. The fact that I'm good at it, just means that I picked the right job to do. Everyone is good at something. He's calling me an angel, saying that I'm a modern day Mother Theresa ... um ... no ... I'm not ... I'm a person, just like him, just like you, just like everyone else that you pass on the streets. I have my good days and my bad days. I screw up on an alarmingly regular basis. I'm human - and it really irritates me when someone tries to insist that I'm not ... even if they are "trying to be nice." |
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Wow ... I was just thinking about how few guys get to the point of meeting us without flaking out or pissing us off ... all of 2 guys in the last 2+ years. Both very sweet, neither one compatable with us, unfortunately. Out of 100s of guys who have e-mailed, only 2 have made the cut to meet us *sigh* sad, really. Not that we're going to lower our standards, but geez - you'd think that more of them would have the manners we require and be stable enough not to vanish at random.
*shrugs* oh well ... maybe we'll manage to pick out another one before too long. |
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For anyone thinking about messaging us - be advised that I (Karen) suffer from depression and anxiety. I am medicated, and I am compliant with said medications. I know that I have to take them, or it gets ugly. If you have issues with people who are on psych meds, then please move on.
However, the flip side of that is also true - if you have psych issues, don't expect BDSM to fix them. If you need to be medicated or otherwise treated, and you aren't, then move along. I know how I am without my meds, and I've dealt with a submissive or two who didn't take their meds like they should have - I have no desire to go through that again. It's too much to deal with.
Mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of - get it treated. |
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I feel special ... some silly twit actually made a new profile just to tell me how ugly I am. LMAO - I guess being rude through her original profile wasn't enough for her.
And then she un-blocked me to message me again, and I'm sure she's blocked me again. Wow, I must be important   |
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Home from MI - I'm so glad to be home. I love my family, and I was thrilled to witness the birth of my nephew ... but it sucks when I have to use someone else's computer, and when I have to watch what I say because I have to be a good example for the munchkin, not to mention I was away from Holly, rob and all of the critters. |
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For the record, we are talking to a few different boys at this point. We will end up with only one of them, as we are only looking for one. We are honest with them that they are not the only one we are talking to.
My problem is that the boys we talk to don't seem to give us the same consideration. One not only started dating another woman, but moved in with her before letting us know ... um ... excuse me??? I didn't even know he was talking to anyone else. Another now has on his profile that he's collared by someone ... again, no clue that he was even talking to someone else. Would have been nice to be told about it, instead of just happening to see it on his profile ...
I'm not asking that they only talk to us - but geez, could you let us know what is going on? Especially if we've been talking for a good long while and talked about visiting back and forth.
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Going to be gone for a few days and where I can't access this site. I plan to be back on Monday. If you message, be prepared to wait for a reply. |
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Have a boy coming to visit next weekend. I'm looking forward to it :-) |
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Ah, the relief that a properly done root canal brings. I feel so much better. Now let's hope that it lasts... |
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I woke up this morning in some serious pain from this tooth. I have an appointment for tomorrow morning and if they can't fix it, they are freaking pulling it. I am really suffering for a decision made due to vanity - I've learned my lesson ... seriously ... |
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So ... yeah ... was supposed to have a root canal today. Root canal was started - but there is something up with my tooth that the dentist couldn't finish it. I now have to go to a specialist (no appointment - jerkwads didn't answer their phone at 11:50 even though they are supposedly open until noon), and have a very weird and nasty feeling temporary filling *sigh* |
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 Holly and rob are the best. Even though they are both allergic to cats, they drove an hour away today while I was at work to look at a kitten for me ... and got her for me. She's a Scottish Fold mix, so she doesn't have the rounded face, but she does have the folded ears - which is the main reason that I like the breed. And we got a cat that can be as much as $150 (even for a mix) for $25. I'm in love with the little thing already (of course) but she's not exactly tame lol. Ah well, she'll get better. I love my kitten ... and my Holly and my boy  |
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For anyone who is curious about why I keep viewing your full profile without messaging ... It's most likely because I'm interested, but either there is no indication of how you feel about Poly-relationships, or it seems that you might be against them (but it's not outright stated). I tend to resist messaging guys that I feel may have issues with our arrangement, even if I'm drawn to the profile repeatedly (I'm usually looking to see if anything has changed in there that might let me know you are open to/interested in Poly-families). |
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And back into rock mode ... I bought tickets for May Day tonight. Yay me, I get to see Apocalyptica live |
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Normally, I'm a rock kind of person. I listen to GNR, KISS, Alice Cooper, Metallica as well as newer bands like Godsmack, Puddle of Mudd, Apocolyptica, etc. Yet, lately, I've been on a bit of a techno kick. Aqua, Erasure and 2 Unlimited have been at the top of the list lately, as well as random ones like ToyBox and Lucilectric (which might not be quite techno, but definitely not my 'normal' music). Anyone know any other good techno groups so that I can get this out of my system? LOL |
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Anyone wanna buy a couple of MayDay tickets for me?? 
*FYI, this is a joke ... I don't expect anyone to buy me anything* |
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Is there anything better than snuggling with a baby (regardless of species)? I currently have a 3.5 week old puppy laying on my chest - I am completely at peace right now. |
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Just a reminder to those who advertise munches:
We don't do munches or mass gatherings very often - so those of you out there who run groups ... please do not send us information on them - we don't care. If we want to drive all the way down to Louisville or whatever other BFE place that isn't anywhere near Indianapolis, we'll let you know ... otherwise, you're getting reported for spamming. |
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My job is still messing with me greatly. I'm starting back on evening shift as of today - and I'll be working 5 days a week for awhile until the other night shift nurse returns from FML, at which point, I'll go to 4 days a week (I think ...). This will alter when I'm available to chat, but I will still answer e-mails that follow the instructions spelled out in the profile ... it just may be a day or two before I have time to do so (even if I read it sooner - I want to make sure that I'm at least relatively coherent and have time to reply properly before I do so). |
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My job is really messing with my social life ... working every weekend for 8 weeks SUCKS!!! It's hard enough finding someone who we enjoy chatting with, but finding someone who can come visit during the week without having to worry about work or school or whatever ... impossible *sigh* |
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suffering from insomnia, watching SyFy's "Alice" (and perving on the Hatter *drools*) and laughing at people who have nothing better to do than repeately message with abuse, block, then unblock to message again LOL good times ... good times ... makes me feel important when people feel the need to spend that much time on me |
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Well, I start teaching next week - and I've applied to a Master's degree program. I'm nervous as heck, and am really thinking that we need a second boy to help us out, since I'll still be working my full time job plus teaching. |
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We don't do munches or mass gatherings very often - so those of you out there who run groups ... please do not send us information on them - we don't care. If we want to drive all the way down to Louisville, we'll let you know ... otherwise, you're getting reported for spamming. |
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Random musings ...
Posting a profile on here, is, in many ways, a way to "put your best foot forward" so to speak. So, why exactly do a lot of guys seem to think that posting a picture of their schlong is the way to do that? I always check pictures before messaging someone, and I saw a pic that was a bare butt ... which is - eh, ok. So I clicked to the next picture and was just disgusted. It's not that it was ugly or gross - but inappropriate, yes. I understand not wanting to show faces on a site like this, but I have no desire to see a random guy's parts. And if they think that is "putting their best foot forward" then they need to learn some basic social skills ... |
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I'm incredibly disappointed. I chatted with a local guy on here a while back. We aren't compatable for a serious relationship, but I thought that we were friends - we chatted a good deal before my job went haywire on me and I didn't really have time. I just tried to say hi, and he's blocked me. Seriously, WTF? I don't understand the mindset of blocking people randomly like that - particularly when he said that he wanted to be friends. |
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Home again ... finally.
I went to MI with my parents to see my niece for her birthday. My parents drove me crazy, but at least my niece is adorable. I did a ton of shopping, and had fun, despite my insane parents, and the fact that I didn't get to see my friend who lives up around Lansing.
Now I'm back, and very glad to be here. I missed Holly and rob while I was gone, along with our critters. And well, it's just nice to be home. |
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New on the bullshit scanner ...
We have storm damage to our house. The insurance company sent a check for most of the money a while back, but because of work and other issues (like me being sick as hell), I hadn't gotten much past that point. After we get a contract signed with someone to do the work, we get the rest of the money from the insurance. No biggie - we'll have the money, no problem.
Unfortunately, the check is made out to me and the mortgage company. I called them today to find out what I need to do to get it signed. Find out that I have to send two estimates and the check to them, then they send me 1/2 of the money back ... excuse me???? It isn't their money ... why do they get to keep 1/2 of it and draw interest on it? It's my money - the check is made out to me first plus I'm the one doing the calling and so forth to get the work done on the house, so why are they keeping it? When the work is done, then they'll send the other 1/2 of it to me - yeah ... I can see that going well. Who decided that this was a good idea? And in even better news, the second check that the insurance company is going to be sending me I'll have to do the same thing with because it's over the mortgage company's limit of how much they will sign off on.
To me, this is just another way of big business keeping money for themselves. They get to draw interest on someone else's money for a month or however long it takes for them to get around to sending it back to me, and I get to deal with contractors who want to be paid for their work. |
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Ok, so I know I'm a bit of a geek, but is anyone else ready for the new Harry Potter movie? No, I am not one of those who is completely nuts and dresses up as the characters, but it is a good series - books are better, but the moves aren't bad. |
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Just a hint to people - if you are into Gor, we aren't interested. I've read the first few books, and was unable to continue reading the series. I have problems with a society based upon total male domination - even the "free women" could be turned into slaves at any instant - not to mention that they still had to submit to their fathers/brothers/husbands. And male slaves in that society? Treated like less than trash while the female slaves were almost venerated. And the "Gorean Slave Girls" that we've run across in chat rooms and such ... ug, don't get me started. I'd rather poke myself in the eye than deal with their stupid, insipid behavior - that seems to be perfectly acceptable.
We have no interest in any lifestyle based on those books or similar books. If you are into that - more power to you, but don't expect us to agree with it, or to be interested in you. |
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So, being the complete klutz that I am ... I stepped on the handle of a screwdriver out in our garage the other morning. landed hard on both knees, and of course was pissed. I did the whole ice and elevation thing - thought I would be ok, just bruised. Then I had to work that night and the next - after two nights of working and being on my feet, the foot that stepped on the screwdriver was just killing me. I went to an ortho clinic that does walk-ins ... sat for hours, of course, but ended up with one of those stupid little boots to keep my foot stabalized, but no bones are broken. Now my foot just hurts like hell. Blah. |
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The first of the puppies has opened his eyes. He's soooo cute. I'll be taking more pictures of them soon :-) |
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   PUPPIES!!!!!!
For the second time, Pandi (my Shih Tzu) has produced 4 beautiful puppies. All appear to be perfectly healthy, and Pandi is doing a fine job taking care of them. |
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We have bugs at work ... again ... so I cut off most of my hair. I'm unable to post a picture of about what it looks like at the moment, as it the best picture I have has my niece in it. If we are chatting, and you want to see, let me know. |
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*shaking head* My itty-bitty 10lb Shih just bit the Boxer on the face ... Thank God that the Boxer is good tempered - and oblivious LOL I don't think she even noticed that Pandi snapped at her (apprently, we have to keep them better separated when Pandi is preg ... this didn't happen last time). |
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If you message us, and have completely ignored our preferences, how do you think that makes you look, exactly? What kind of a submissive doesn't care for his/her Dominant's happiness? And do you think that ignoring what someone wants will make ANYONE (Dominant or submissive) happy?
No one knows better what we want than we do. Acting like you know better isn't going to impress us, it's just going to annoy us. You don't know us, so how can you possibly "know" that we are wrong about what we really want? I've had two or three lately who seemed to think that they were the exception, or that our preferences meant nothing ... that's not the way to go, people. |
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Ok, the random ups and downs of this place. Pandi (female Shih Tzu) is in heat. This means that Havoc (male Pitbull) and Ray (male Shih Tzu) haven't been getting along. Yesterday as I'm taking them out before I go to bed, Havoc and Ray get into it. I stop the fight, get the other dogs out and then crated, and look Ray over - his foot was torn up bad enough to require repair.
I took Ray to the vet, they fix his foot and keep him overnight. So last night, Havoc keeps looking for him - it was actually kind of cute. Then this morning, I go pick Ray up ... and he promptly comes home and ties the knot with Pandi LMAO We may be having puppies *grin* |
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Misery ...
I'm not sure what is going on with me at the moment (other than I was exposed to massive amounts of mildew at work the other day), but I'm so congested that I can barely breathe, and my head is just pounding. I so need a boy to draw me a warm bath and pamper me, but unfortunately, rob worked last night and has to work again tonight, so he needs his sleep. *sigh* |
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So ... yeah ... Valentine's day ...
I'm not a fan, honestly. All the pink everywhere just gets on my nerves - the only good thing is that I get chocolate *grin* |
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Just general information - just because we are kinky does NOT mean that we give a damn about what gets you off.
That is all. |
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Things are better with sleeping and everything, but unfortunately I wrecked my car this morning.
No one else was involved, I seem to have dozed off at the wheel. I'm not seriously injured, but my poor car is *sigh*
If you message me, be prepared for typos and me being slow because I'm basically typing one-handed because I messed up my left arm. |
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The puppies haven't let me sleep the last two days - I worked last night and will be working again tonight. If you have my e-mail address (the g-mail one), please e-mail me. I'll be working at the computer most of the night and will need distractions to help me stay awake. |
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One puppy has been sold. She had a fairly significant umbilical hernia, so we sold her for 1/2 of what we are asking for the other puppies, and we sold her to Holly's grandmother so we know that she will be spayed and have the hernia fixed. The other three puppies don't even seem to notice that she's gone lol. |
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New puppy pictures!!!
http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/htgzoo/puppies/wk4/ |
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 I just have to share this ...
some dummy, with a female name, but a male profile (already deleted, the freakin coward) messaged me saying that I'm fugly, that no one would ever want to sub to me, and that I need to get off my ass and work
for the record:
1 - I do work, both in and out of the home. I have a full time job, and pick up around the house. In fact, today I'm sweeping and mopping basically the whole house. Don't make accusations if you haven't a clue what you are talking about ... kthanxbai ... lol
2 - why would that person's opinion of my looks bother me when I have multiple men who think that I look just fine - if someone thinks I'm ugly, then they can hide/block our profile. It's really very simple
3 - I don't really have a 3 ... but I'm still laughing about the stupidity of some people lol |
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One of the puppies has his eyes all the way open, and one of them has her eyes started open ... they are still sooooo freakin cute! |
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Pandy had 4 puppies this morning and early afternoon - they are all healthy little things at this point, and I'm sure that I'll be posting about all the cute things that they do over the next few weeks :-)
Link to pictures: http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/htgzoo/puppies/?albumview=slideshow |
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I give up - I was talking to some boys that I liked ... one decided poly isn't for him, which is fine but disappointing; one decided that he doesn't have any time (but is online all the time ... hmm...); many have just quit replying to messages. It's frustrating as hell ... so guess what guy - you get to message us first for awhile. I may or may not decide to initiate contact again, so if you want to chat, then make the first move. |
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We're having puppies!!!!
My Shih Tzu female is preg and should be having puppies in about a month. I'm sooo excited, and am looking forward to having some cute little puppies that are as happy and healthy as their mom and dad. |
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To those I've been talking to, if you have my e-mail, e-mail me tonight. If you don't have my e-mail, remind me to send it to you lol. I'll be at work after 11 or so, and will be on the computer most of that time. I also work Saturday and Sunday, so you can e-mail me then too. |
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Just a couple of things - I'm talking to a few guys at this point, so we aren't really looking for anyone new to talk to.
And to the guys that I've messaged - I will only message you first so many times before I decide that you aren't interested in chatting. If you are interested in us, you will need to take some initiative. |
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I'm going to edit the profile ... for the first time in well over a year, I think. That means that our pictures will be down for awhile, even though I'm not changing them. I'm sure they will be back up though - I mean, they've been approved at least once already ...
Anyway, I'm hoping that it will give some more information about what we are looking for and cut down on some confusion. |
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I decided to message some people who had caught my attention ... and once again, I'm incredibly disappointed. Of the messages I've sent out, not a single person has sent a reply. I sent out a couple, waited ... when I got no reply, I sent out a couple more ... again, no reply - I've sent messages now to about 10 boys.
And just so you know, this isn't really a complaint ... just a statement of disappointment, and to say this: it's not just the Dominants who can't be bothered to reply to messages. Sad, but true - it's a human thing, not a female thing, or a dominant thing, or a submissive thing or a male thing ... every group has people in it who are too lazy or rude or whatever to even send a "thanks but no thanks" message. |
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Just for clarification ... we are NOT interested in chastity devices or helping other people with them - we have never used them, and probably won't use them for long term ... ever. We are only interested in chatting with couples as friends - we are NOT going to get involved in play with other couples ... not now, not ever. OK? Thank you, goodbye. |
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Home again, and available to chat ... and down a few potentials just in case anyone is interested. |
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Thank heaven for vacations. Mine officially started at 11:15 this morning (it was only about 3 hrs late ... whatever ...) and I don't even plan to answer the phone if work calls me. |
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*sigh* I need snuggles and Holly and rob are neither one home. damn. |
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In case anyone is interested in chatting, please be aware that the next 2-3 weeks are just crazy for me: I'm currently covering for one of the nurses who is on vacation, and then I'm going on vacation. I will be checking as I can (usually mid to late morning as I wind down and try to relax for sleeping), but please don't be surprised or upset if I don't reply right away. It doesn't mean that I'm blowing you off, it just means that I don't feel like I have the time to respond to you thoughtfully and/or appropriately at the time I read your message.
If you have/get my e-mail address, please use it, as I can check that at work and am much more likely to reply quickly. |
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The random things that occur to me ...
I'm currently sitting at my computer desk with our pitbull tethered to me. He is being a pain because our Shih Tzu female is in heat (and hopefully already preggers, but just in case ....). Normally, he would be thrilled to be allowed to sit this close to me (where he is now is reserved for my Shihs and my cat), but of course, today, he's straining at the leash to get to the door because the Shihs are on the other side of the door.
And while I'm dealing with him, thinking about how he would normally love to be where he is, it occurs to me how many boys I know who would currently love to be where he is ... lol I know, weird and random, but such is life when you live in a small zoo. |
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Just a reminder to those I've been talking to ... I will only initiate conversation so many times before deciding that you don't really care about talking to me. If I have to start the conversation every time, it's not working for me. If you want to talk - then do so ... don't wait for me. |
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*warning - random musings ahead*
I was looking at a profile that talks about how the boy wants to become a submissive pet for his Dominant. And this started me thinking ...
We describe what we want as a pet - not because we enjoy puppy/pony/pig/whatever play, but because of how we treat our pets (both human and non-human). First and foremost, our pets are members of the family ... they are loved; they are cared for to the absolute best of our ability; they are basically spoiled rotten as long as they deserve it.
All of our pets are treated appropriately to their species - which means that our human pets are not kept in cages when not 'in use' and we don't treat our boys like we do our dogs (no eating out of dog bowls; no sleeping on the floor ... of course, if the dogs sleep in our rooms - which is rare, btw - they don't sleep on the floor either lol).
We have enough animals around here - we don't really want a boy who wants to be an animal. It's not really a deal breaker for us, but I can promise that if it's something that you HAVE to have often, then this isn't the place for you - it's not going to happen. |
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Every time we think the yard is going to dry out enough to mow ... it rains again *sigh* The fields around us have water standing (more than I've seen in the 3 years that we've been here), and our sump pump is working overtime to keep water out from under the house ... Holly and rob have had to dig a coupld of ditches now to direct the runoff.
I'm ready for a little bit of sunshine |
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I've been fairly miserable the last few days - I actually called off of work the other day (I NEVER call off work) because of my allergies. I'm allergic to cottonwood trees, and of course, their fluff is blowing all over everywhere right now.
And now, we've got a nasty, nasty storm rumbling overhead (and terrifying one of our dogs ... ug) so the pressure changes, combined with how congested I am, are really tearing me up right now. I'm hoping that either my meds kick in and I can breathe again, or the storm moves on so that at least my head will quit pounding. *sigh* |
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And then, sometimes, it's just the silliest things that amuse me ...
Like playing with the candle wax in my candle maker as it melts (yes, I burnt my fingers; no, I didn't learn anything lol).
And now, I've discovered that I'm high enough level in summoning on runescape that I can talk to my badger ... which gives me things like "a string of visibly illustrated threats" to which my character replies "why do I talk to you again?" ... I started laughing hysterically ... yes, I need more sleep *giggle snort* |
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Sometimes, we do things that we don't really want to - in my case, it's working overtime. I worked my normal 10hr shifts on Wed and Thurs, and then Friday night ... I went in knowing that I was going to have to stay over, although I didn't think I was going to have to stay over as much as I did.
I was there from 10pm until 2pm. I was so freaking tired, and I'm still recovering. Sometimes I wonder why I do this to myself - no matter how much I like the job, it's not worth how I feel right now *sigh* |
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If you wish to add us to your friends list - you need to at least say 'hi' first.
I have no problems with someone messaging; in fact, I encourage it, because I don't intend to message anyone at this point unless I'm replying to them. If you are wanting me to make the first move, you'll be waiting a long freakin time. |
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I just got home from spending a good portion of the day with my mom - we did our thing today instead of tomorrow. I took her and dad out to lunch (Logan's Steakhouse .. mmmmmm......) and then we went to a new outdoor mall just south of us.
It was kind of a pain to find, and dad got a little whiney ... blah. But we had fun, I got some books, a few presents for Holly's sister (her first Mother's Day as a mother) and some cute stuff for Holly's nephew. I also got some clothes for me and mom and dad got some stuff for them too.
It was definitely fun, but as I've now been awake for almost 24 hours (I worked last night before going out with them) and I've been working extra (8 hours extra in 3 days ... and I normally work 10 hour shifts anyway instead of 8s), I'm totally exhausted. I'm still up because I'm not sleepy (so feel free to message if you want to chat) but omg, don't ask me to do anything that requires more than typing lol |
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I went to be early last night - didn't sleep well during the day yesterday - and when I initially woke up to get back up, I had a massive, massive headache and just went back to sleep - screw the night shift schedule, I'm off, I'm sleeping.
I finally woke up a little after 8 this morning, and I smelled smoke - not that unusual ... we live in the country and the neighbors (and we) burn trash sometimes. I checked the house and didn't see anything on fire in the house, so I moved on.
Then Holly got up - she smelled the smoke too, but again, nothing on fire in the house, so she packed her lunch and got ready for work. Then she turned around and looked out the back door to the deck ... which was smoldering.
Our freaking deck had caught fire last night - one of the trashcans had apparently caught fire and melted, and where it was sitting there is a hole in the deck and the railing is partially gone. Holly and I got the hose and soaked everything to put out the last of it - and started thanking Whomever was watching out for us that the whole house didn't go up. At least it was just the deck. |
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Yeah - I'm done messaging for awhile. If you are interested and want to chat, don't wait for me to e-mail you, because it's not going to happen any time soon. If you message me, I will message back, but I'm done making the first move ... I hope none of the guys who decided to blow off my messages are among those who complain that no one ever replies to their messages. |
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A random thought - we have a mini-zoo here at this house. If you require frequent animal roleplaying (i.e. ponyplay, puppyplay, kittenplay, etc.) then this isn't the place for you - we have enough real critters ... we want our boy to be a boy. |
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I currently sleep with ... the cat.
I rarely get to snuggle with anyone - just the dogs and cats. Holly has fibromyalgia, so snuggling for long is just not an option, and rob overheats so freakin easily that it's really not possible to snuggle with him for very long. Plus, because I have to be propped up, and I work nights, I sleep in a different bedroom from them.
So, I sleep alone. I miss having someone to curl up against in bed. I'm tired of being alone when I fall asleep, and alone still when I wake up. I want someone next to me, so that I can reach out and touch them when I want to ... someone to snuggle up to when I'm cold or not feeling well ... someone to kiss as I get into bed/get out of bed. Is that really too much to ask? |
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We're still looking - if you're interested (and you've actually read our profile), feel free to message. I've kind of quit messaging guys again ... I totally understand why a lot of guys think it's a waste of time *sigh* |
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I've messaged a few boys, with absolutely no response ... see, guys, it's not just the Dommes who don't answer e-mails.
I've also had 3 or 4 just *poof* vanish on me. I am frustrated, but not really surprised.
So, yeah, still looking and hoping to find a boy to complete our family. |
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ACK!! Sunburn sucks ... Someday I will learn to wear long sleeves when mowing the lawn *sigh* |
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Ah, vacation
Work just stresses me out all the time lately, so I decided that I needed a week off. Last night was the first night off and I don't have to go back until next Monday *cheers*
I think we'll be going up to the Lafayette Munch on Sunday, just in case anyone is interested. I'd be happy to give time/location if you message me for it. |
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You know, every so often, we get a post on the message boards about "why can't I find a mistress" or "what's wrong with my profile" or whatever ... all along the same lines.
About profiles - if it lists the things that you will "allow" a Dominant to do to you (i.e. "you can violate my ass" "beat me when you like" "you can dress me like a girl and humiliate me in front of your friends") it's probably not going to get you very far except with a pro. Listing things that you can do in your profile - like if you are a professional chef or a certified massage therapist or you work from home so you would be available - will help you more. The kink stuff is what the interest lists are for. And if it's blank except for the interest list ... we, at least, bypass it unless the intro letter is damned good.
As for intro letters and finding a Dominant - if you are looking for a full relationship (i.e. romantic relationship along with the D/s) then there has to be personal compatability. Personally, I'm a bit of a dork/nerd, so when one boy noticed one of my interests on another site and messaged me with a relavent link (and was capable of having a discussion on said topic), he immediately went up to the front of the line of potentials we had been talking to, since none of them had shown that kind of compatability. Another boy, from this site, has shown interest in our day to day lives rather than just the play (although, yes, he has asked about that too lol), which also puts him up front.
Oh, and one last thing - form letters are from the devil ... I don't care how well written it is, it had better at least be personalized if you message us, otherwise, you get a polite "try not using a form letter next time" reply from us and we move on. |
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No trips to MI yet - my brother is out of the hospital and doing fine now.
For anyone who is interested in chatting - even if I view your profile, I'm not likely to message you. Silly or not, I want to know if you are willing to put that little bit of effort and make the first move. I reply to everyone who has actually read and paid attention to our profile, even if I don't think we are the least bit comptable.
For those that I have already been chatting with - if you have my IM screen name and/or my e-mail address ... I expect you to use them. I will only message you first so many times before I decide it's a waste of my time. If you want to talk, then I figure you'll message - if you don't message, I figure you've lost interest (although, that is the coward's way out and I would hope that anyone I get that far with would have the balls to say that they are no longer interested). |
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I may be visiting Michigan shortly - my brother is having cardiac problems, and since I used to work on a cardiac intensive care floor, my sis-in-law asked me to come up if he has to have a cardioversion done (moral support and all, since I've dealt with them before). |
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OMG, I thought we were almost done with winter and then ... THIS happened! It's snowing, it's cold, it's miserable ... blah. I wish I could just hibernate. |
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Something that came up on another personals site that we are on ...
We have an age range in our criteria for a reason. We just don't have enough in common with guys who are too much older or younger than we are to have a long lasting relationship. Our age range is about 26 to 36 (goes up every year ... just in case anyone is wondering). Holly is 28 and I'm 30, and we are comfortable with our age range that we are looking in.
Someone in their early 20s isn't going to have much in common with us. Different stages of life, different goals, different interests, etc. Someone in their late 30s and up - same thing ... different stages of life, goals, interests, etc.
And then there is the actual age consideration. I understand that 45, 50, 55, whatever isn't really "old" anymore, and that people are living longer and healthier lives, in general. However, that means that Holly and I are most likely going to be living longer too, plus women still live longer than men on average. This means that someone 15 years older than us is expected to die 20 years (about) before us ... which isn't something that we are looking to have happen to us.
I posted about this on the other site, and kind of got flamed for it - and I just want to throw our reasons out there. It is a preference, and we are going to stick to it. |
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For the record, cleaning - even under orders - after taking cough syrup with codiene in it is a really bad idea, and I think is now a freakin hard limit for me .... |
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If anyone messages for the next couple of days, and I don't reply, please be patient with me. One of my coworkers came into work for about a month while very, very ill - I'm relatively certain that she gave whatever the hell she has to me. She's currently in the hospital, and I'm trying desparately to not join her there. I'm going to the doctor tomorrow morning, first thing (would have gone today but he wasn't in), so hopefully he can give me a few meds to get me through this so that I don't end up as sick as my coworker. |
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It always disappoints me when peole don't bother to respond to e-mails. My list of people who I hope I never catch complaining that their e-mails don't get responded to has just grown by a few names in the last few days.
I do try to take the time to respond to all the e-mails that are sent to us - it's a shame that it seems to be too much to expect the same in return. |
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Ok, apparently I need to clarify again - yes, I want guys who are interested to message ... but if you are outside of our age range (which is approximately 26 to 36 years old) and/or from outside of the United States, don't waste your time telling me to read your profile. The only thing I would possibly be interested in from you is friendship, and if you are old enough to be my father, the chances of us having enough in common to be friends are slim and none ... |
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Well, I was talking to a few different boys. One was supposed to meet us last weekend, and didn't show, and the others ... well, I can't seem to catch them online. Guess that means anyone interested is welcome to message again. If the other boys want to still be considered, they will have to start over. |
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I really don't understand people sometimes.
Some guys are so desperate that they will ignore any bits of our profile that they don't like ... like the fact that we are not at all interested in cyber (unless there is r/t interaction as well). What exactly is the point of contacting someone who has clearly stated that they don't want cyber, for cyber?
Then there are the guys who we've talked to in the past and, for whatever reason, aren't talking to anymore, yet they keep checking our profile ... at least once a week. Why do they do this?
It's all frustrating and disappointing. *sigh* ah well ... life goes on. |
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So, as I've posted before, I cut my hair really short last summer. I was planning to grow it back out to where the main profile picture shows it, but I found out yesterday that Holly doesn't like it at that length (and seriously, this is the first I knew that). So, I guess it stays the length it is now, which means I'll have to find a picture that doesn't have an UM in it to put up that shows my hair at it's current length. |
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I'm not normally big on looks - I mean, yeah, they are important, but personality is far more important. But sometimes ... sometimes a picture just takes my breath away. I can't even explain what it is about the picture that inspired this post - but it literally became difficult for me to breathe (in a good way, not an asthmatic way :-P ). I had looked at the profile before, but he didn't have a picture up ... now I'm just drawn to that profile like a magnet. |
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Sometimes, I wonder what people are thinking ... I really do. |
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I'm now talking to 4 guys - who knows whether any of them will work out or not, but I think it's time to take a break from seeking out anyone new to talk to. |
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Merry Christmas everyone! Be safe and have fun. |
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Forget the previous incarnation of this entry - but anyone who messages us, please be aware that I'm nocturnal, and as I'm the one who does all of the initial communication, you need to be prepared to deal with a bit of silliness (or frivolity, as someone accused me ... and why exactly is that negative?) if you get replies from me in the morning. I'm tired, I've been awake for over 12 hours, and I've typically been relatively active during those 12 hours (this is not 12hrs of sitting on my arse and doing nothing).
I tend to multi-task as well. I'm not known for my attention span, so the best way for me to remain interested in something is for me to do multiple things at once. If the conversation is good enough, I will stop whatever else I'm doing, or postpone the conversation until I have more time (if the other tasks are imperitive).
I'm also not a particularly serious person - life is too short to take it seriously. I have fun; I tease; I make silly noises/faces when the mood strikes me - I'M HUMAN - deal with it. |
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I know there is a problem with scammers asking to move to yahoo right away - but honestly, I don't like the chat program here, and the e-mail system just seems so slow to me ... so yeah, I give my yahoo IM id to people within the first couple of e-mails.
If that's a problem, then fine, you don't have to use it - I promise you, though, we aren't after your money. |
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I have a new hobby ... I've started making candles. I'm having lots of fun ... I may have to start trying waxplay lol. |
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So, I suppose that we are looking again. But right now I don't feel up to doing too much. If you're interested, feel free to message - but don't wait around for me to message you, because I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen until either Holly makes me, or I'm feeling better. |
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Well, those of you who have been following the 'male wife' thread already know this ... but the boy we were talking to is no longer a potential. Happy fucking birthday to me. |
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I went to the Lafayette munch today ... saw a couple of people that I haven't seen in a couple years (since we moved), had some fun, then found out that I have to work tonight *blah*
Hopefully I can make it up there more often ... and drag Holly and rob along too lol. |
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First things first - we are not looking for anything but friendship right now. I don't care how old you are, we aren't looking.
Second - if you are old enough to be my father don't freakin' bother - we have an age restriction for a reason and don't appreciate those who disrespect us by ignoring it. 48 and 53 years old is NOT close enough to our age range for us to make an exception. |
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Since, as usual, there are people who can't understand things unless they are spelled out plainly ... allow me to do so.
Until we see where things go with the boy we are talking to right now, we are not going to consider anyone else. That would be unfair to both the boy we are already talking to, and anyone else that we might possibly consider. If things don't work out after we meet face to face, I'll start looking again at that time. |
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So, we've talked with the potential about the whole moving in thing ... and I think we have it worked out as long as we are as compatable offline as we are online. I certainly hope so (and that things do work out once we've met face to face), because I'd had to miss out on a relationship with a wonderful guy. |
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Approximately 4 years ago (within a week, give or take), rob came to visit for the first time. So this week is not only his birthday, but our anniversary. A lot of people have expressed their surprise that we have been together so long - particularly when "normal" and "vanilla" marriages/relationships seem to not last that long these days, but we work at this - every day, every night, 24/7. It's not easy, but it's worth it. I don't know if he'll read this journal entry or not, but I just want to let everyone know how much we love our boy and how glad we are that he's here with us. |
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It's 1am, I don't have to work tonight, and I have no one to talk to. I also can't do anything towards fixing the floors because one floor is drying (put sealer on it tonight), and the others that need work are either a - where Holly and rob are sleeping or b - have all the furniture out of the room that we worked on tonight. I've already done my laundry, fed the cats, let the dogs out (and I can't really play with the dogs because they get excited and start barking). I've also rolled our change so I can put it in the bank tomorrow. Now I need someone to talk to or I'll fall asleep, which would be bad for my overall schedule lol |
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I'm a little distressed at this point. The boy that I like so much, that is coming to visit in Dec ... told me last night that he could get transferred to CA, or even overseas. I understand that, at this point, we haven't even met face to face, so there isn't really a reason to turn down a transfer, but the way he talked, even if we hit it off great, he'd still take a transfer if it were offered. If things don't go well, then of course, I don't mind - but if things go well, and then he transfers to England or Germany - I'm going to be quite upset. I don't care about the money, I don't care about prestige or whatever ... I care about him. If things go well, we expect the end result to be him moving in - and we've been clear about that from the start. He seems to have missed that.
I've been thinking about it since we talked, and well ... this is the best explination for why I'm upset that I've come up with. I don't know what to do at this point. |
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It's been pointed out that despite multiple attempts to change it, the profile still has one of us as male - I promise you that we are both female. I don't know why the site keeps messing it up, but it does. I'm tired of trying to convince the site that we are both female, so ... this is where I let everyone else know. |
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Tooth extractions suck ... that is all. |
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[rant mode] You know ... some people just suck. They lead people on, then suddenly, after saying they weren't talking to anyone serious, they have someone move in with them. One of our friends just got royally screwed over. He was getting really attached to a Domme on this site that he was chatting with - he thought it was going somewhere ... and then *poof* someone else is where he wants to be (and he had been told there were no really serious competitors). This same Domme has treated the boy we are considering like someone to be used and then thrown away when someone better came along. It makes me wonder what her priorities are when she can treat people like that ... [/rant mode] |
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We are having some serious internet issues, and our internet provider hasn't been particularly helpful ... *scowls* If I haven't replied to you, be patient - it's most likely because I tried to, the internet died, and I'm not ready to retype it just yet. |
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I've had my vacation - gotten cute pictures of my niece ... and got most of our Christmas shopping done while we were in MI - yay!
In the realm of our search ... we have found a rather wonderful young man that we are hoping to take things to the next step with, but technically, we are still looking. We aren't sure where things are going to go with this guy, and who knows, things might blow up in all of our faces. We are still willing to chat with people, I just want everyone to know where things stand at this point. |
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I just spent 2 days up visiting my sister-in-law and my 3 week old niece *grin* of course, she's adorable. Unfortunately, that meant 2 days without chatting with my new friend - sorry. Hopefully I'll get to chat with him again soon *waves to him* |
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I'm really enjoying chatting with a guy up around Chicago ... even if it doesn't move beyond friendship, I'm glad I messaged him :-) |
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Today is one of those days where I really wish we had a second submissive. rob is already in bed because he's just not nocturnal (and I think he works tomorrow anyway), and here I am - awake, hungry, thirsty, and miserable from my allergies. If I had someone here who was nocturnal like I am, I wouldn't have to cook for myself and I could have him rub my neck and shoulders (which, oddly enough, does help my sinuses).
*sigh* hopefully soon. |
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It's almost 2am ... I've been awake for most of the last 30 hours or so. I'm getting really sleepy, which shortens my attention span greatly - but of course, I need to stay up to stay on the right sleep cycle for work, so I really shouldn't go back to bed.
I keep hoping that one of the guys I was chatting with will message again to help me stay awake, but apparently they both either chickened out or decided that we aren't what they are looking for (which also means that they are chickens because they should have said so).
Maybe someone new will message me. |
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Just a tad more clarification ... if I give you my IM screen name, that means I expect you to message me. It's just a tiny little thing, but it's a simple way to show that you have the will and the desire to be what we are looking for. I mean, seriously, with all the people out there demanding cash to be allowed to talk, what we ask is nothing - just a little bit of courage and effort is all we ask. |
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More information about what we are looking for:
I've mentioned the 'male wife' interest before, but perhaps it needs more clarification.
Due to financial issues (we just don't have the funds to support someone entirely), he would have to have a part time job. We don't want him to have a full time job though.
Our first boy, rob, works full time and does almost all of the cooking already, and that task will most likely remain his - and without the rest of the house to worry about, he will also be responsible for keeping the kitchen spotless.
Our male wife will be responsible for things like keeping the dishes collected, sweeping/vacuuming, and helping with dog grooming (I have two Shih Tzus ... it gets interesting at times). Beyond that, tasks of fetching us things and pampering us with backrubs/footrubs/etc would be shared between the two of them. |
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Still looking for our male wife. We've had some luck ... mostly bad. We haven't given up yet though - if you think we sound like what you are looking for, and that you are what we are looking for, then please message us. |
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Attention!!
I'm currently handing out clues. The most important being this: There is a feature on this site called "hide profile" - if you think that Holly and/or I am ugly, then hide our profile so that you don't see our pictures anymore.
The next clue - if you are too lazy to use the "hide" feature, then why take the time to message us to tell us how ugly we are? save all of us some time and just move the hell on
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I know that we aren't supposed to post other people's messages, but I can't resist. The best parts are put in, along with commentary, for humor.
50 year old Dominant male messages, calling us "ma'am" (clearly stated in our pofile that I hate being called that), wanting to get to know us because he likes our profile. I admit it, I was a bad Girl. I called him an obiously illiterate moron, since we are clearly only looking for submissive males between the ages of about 25 and 35. As he lists himself as a 50 year old dominant, then he sould have known that we would not be interested.
He messages back ... "buti can still be good slave"
My reply: an inability to follow simple instructions and respect our wishes proves that are not a good slave. I wished him a good day and asked that he not message us again, as I would not reply to him again.
I got one last message from him ... "your not verry nice"
HA Like I haven't heard that before, but thanks for sharing.
I'm hoping that someone else messages me with something good before I go to bed, because I would hate for that to be the last e-mail that I get before bed. |
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Well, the guy I was chatting with and hoping to move past chatting with ... suddenly doesn't have a profile here anymore. Guess that means he's not interested anymore, since he hasn't e-mailed me off the site either (even though I gave him my regular e-mail over a week ago). |
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The picture of me (first pic on the page) is no longer current. I chopped all my hair off on Monday. I'll post a new pic as soon as I get one taken. |
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Internet issues ...
If you've messaged me, and I've read it but not replied - it's most likely because every time I've tried, my internet fouls up. Give me some time to fix it before giving up. |
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A screen name on the site started me to thinking ... I miss my hamster. I had a very fluffy hamster named Wrath, Holly had a hairless hamster (he looked like an alien) named J, and a VERY fluffy hamster named Elwood.
J was incredibly friendly - even to the cats, although he got mad when they stole his food (happened once ... funniest thing I've ever seen - Simoriah in the top of his cage eating his biscuit and him in the bottom of his cage, shaking his fist at her).
Elwood was a pretty normal hamster - anti-social, tolerated handling only when absolutely necisary, and a miniature Houdini when it came to his cage.
Then there was my little Wrath - his fur was very very soft, almost like a rex bunny. He was an ill-tempered little thing, and only tolerated being touched by me ... and I absolutely had to stay away from his head, I could only pet from his shoulders back. Then he had a stroke or something and got really friendly. He made it about another week being hand-fed daily by either Holly or me. Then he started circling, so we let him go.
I think I need a new hamster. |
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I just want to say to the two boys that we have been chatting with for the last few months - thank you ... thank you for being open, friendly, honest, and a pleasure to chat with. I know that things have been incredibly crazy lately and I haven't been online much because of all the crap going on at my work - but please know that once things settle again, I'll be in contact more. Hang in there, and hopefully things can progress a bit farther  |
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Well, I'm now on an anti-depressant. For those of you who have that as a deal breaker - well, now you know. For those of you who are more realistic about mental illnesses (especially treated ones), please read the whole profile, and if you think you fit what we are looking for, feel free to message us. |
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Something for those contacting us to think about:
There is a thread on the other side of the site about male wives. This is something that we are looking for - a man who is comfortable taking on the stereotypical "wifely" duties of housekeeping. We want someone who is capable of keeping a full time job, but is willing to work only part time and spend the rest of his time keeping up with housework, laundry, etc. Someone who would be home to take care of Holly and I if we have a particularly rough shift at work ... to make sure that the pantry is stocked with our favorites (or is willing to make midnight runs after them :-P) |
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I'm home from a brief trip to MI, and am now on night shift at work - this means that I only work 4 days a week now *yay* so I should have time to chat with people who message. If you are interested, message (not a form letter, please) and we'll see where things go from there. |
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Updates on us:
Our boy has had some serious medical issues, he's recovering, but slowly.
We had to put one of our dogs down. She had a form of epilepsy that made her a danger.
One of our other animals died of unknown causes.
Because of the previous two deaths, we got a new puppy, so we still have 5 dogs - Panzer, Ray, Havok, Pandy, and Ka'li.
We have no real potentials at the moment, so if you are interested and seem to meet our qualifications, please message and we can chat. |
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General rule of thumb - if I stop a discussion because it's going nowhere, don't claim "that's not fair" - I stopped it for a reason, and even if we don't own you yet, it's best to not argue the end of a discussion (especially if it's already an argument).
We don't want a doormat, or a 'stepping stone' - but we do want someone who will listen to reason (and to what we are actually saying instead of ignoring bits and pieces of it for their own purposes). If I say something like "I can't explain it properly right now." then accept it and move on.
For the record, we would also prefer someone who actually paid attention in their grade school science lessons. |
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I have been accused twice now (by the same person) of wanting to have a "one seasoned life" - apparently meaning that I only want happiness around me. First off, this is entirely false. I am not always happy, Holly is not always happy, no one is always happy - I understand and accept this. However, I don't want someone who is ALWAYS negative (which is the only mode that I have seen this particular person in). Someone who is always negative is a drain on the psyche of others, and I have enough issues without that.
If you are always negative, then please don't message us - I don't need that in my life. I don't expect "happy, happy, joy, joy" all the time, but I do expect more than just "everyone hates me, the world sucks, everyone is against me because of X, Y, and/or Z, and anyone who feels that my negativity is a problem is living in a delusional state of mind because all states of mind produce something." All states of mind do add to the world, but someone who is stuck in only one state of mind is not contributing to anyone. |
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I wonder, sometimes, what makes people decide to lash out at others without cause. I had someone not only attack me on the message boards, but message me on this side of the site with abuse as well. I'm not angry; I'm not upset; I'm just curious as to what makes people do these things ... I pointed out that the person in question was rude on the message boards, and he attacked me personally - then messaged me here as well. He has attacked other people on the message boards (and likely over here too, like he did with me) with little to no cause as well ... it makes me wonder what kind of a miserable life he must have to try and make others as miserable. |
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I've started messaging people while I have time ... and one out of 5 has replied. I have an ever-growing list of people that need to not ever complain about Dommes not replying to their messages.
If you are one of the people that I've messaged, please message back - even if you are not interested. Otherwise, it's rude ... and do you honestly think that we Dommes don't talk to each other??
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So, I'm on vacation (yay vacation!), and we have a new puppy. She is absolutely adorable ... and keeping me awake during my prime sleeping time *sigh* anyone wanna puppy-sit for a few hours? Say, about 3am until 9 or 10am? LOL |
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just a few things:
1- we are looking for eventual 24/7 only. no part time, no "when I'm travelling," and absolutely no "when my wife won't notice I'm gone"
2- we want close to our own ages. Our age range is specified on the profile, but for those of you too lazy and/or stupid to read the whole thing, it's 25-35.
3- we don't want slaves
4- being naked all the time isn't realistic (or wise) with 4 cats, 4 dogs, and relatives that don't always call before stopping by. |
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Nights like tonight are when I wish that we had a boy who is nocturnal, like I am. Work tonight was bad beyond description. I think I'm going to get written up for too much overtime, but it wasn't my fault - the superintendant wouldn't let me leave ... and well ... yeah, it was just bad. I so need a boy who is awake when I get home, to get a foot soak ready, give me a backrub, and then hold me until I fall asleep. |
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Let me explain something - if I give you my screen name for an IM program, or our e-mail address for a non-collarme e-mail, then I expect you to use it. Do not wait for me to message you, and for crying out loud, don't send me daily offline messages when we are online at the same time at least every other day.
I don't typically message people unless I have something specific to tell them or ask them - so I message my close friends regularly ... but someone that I only know on here, and that is supposedly trying to make a good impression on my girlfriend and me, I am not going to make the first move every damn time.
That is all. |
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So, yeah ... Holly had surgery, I've been working way too damned much, and everything is a mess (and because of how our new administrator is working me, I don't have time to clean it up). I'm tired, she's still sore, and our boy has been working overtime as well (so that we can afford to fix our driveway, and buy a freezer, and 1/2 a dozen other things that we need ... even if not everyone understands why we need them).
I'm planning to start writting messages to those who are on our favorites list - but seriously, as I stated before, if you notice that we are on your 'admirers' please message us. I'll reply, I promise. |
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If you happen to notice that our profile is on your list of "admirers," please message - I added you because something in your profile caught my attention.
This is about as close as I'm going to get to coherent for awhile (illness, Holly is getting ready to have surgery, and I've been working so much that I'm nearly braindead), but if you are interested, let us know and we'll get back to you once normalcy ... well, relative anyway ... returns. |
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Once again, I will not chat with you through the program here - if you wish to talk, then you have to e-mail. For whatever reason, the chat program on this site doesn't like my computer (or my computer doesn't like it), so I will not use the program. |
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This struck me as I was talking to a fellow correctional worker.
I have worked with inmates of both genders, and ranging in age from 13 to 84 ... and most of them (the males, anyway - haven't had this issue with many of the females) are desparate to get laid ... they are so desparate that they will hit on anyone that happens by. They focus on whatever gender they are normally attracted to, and new faces (which means that, unfortunately, I'm REALLY popular at the facility I'm at right now, because I've only been there a couple of weeks) - but hit on everyone ... or almost everyone, haven't seen many of them hitting on the officers, but nurses are definitely fair game.
It kind of creeps me out knowing that I'm just a new face with tits, so they have to try and "hit it" ... not a damn one of them could give a shit about me (even if they weren't all criminals).
I get this same type of vibe from so-called submissives (some of them really are, but most aren't ...). They are so desparate due to the lack (perceived or actual) of available Dominant Females that they are willing to submit to anyone, anyone at all. They don't care about the personality (beyond it being Dominant), or the package, or the risks that could be involved - they just want to "hit it" ... and again, it creeps me out. I wonder if they realize how they sound *ponders* |
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Well, I've made it for 4+ weeks without being suicidal, and 3+ weeks with no obvious depressive episodes (if that makes any sense). I have been sad from time to time, of course - but much more normal than before.
I don't know when we will be starting to look, but probably soon. When Holly decides, I will change the profile. |
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If I have added you to our "favorites" list and haven't messaged you, that is because something in your profile caught my attention, and I want to remember your screen name to tell Holly when she starts our search back up ... whenever she does. |
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I don't know what is wrong with people ... I need a break from dating/searching, but people just don't seem to get it.
One of my coworkers is trying to set me up with the son of one of her friends ... former potentials have crawled out of the woodwork and aren't *quite* able to keep their joy at allen being thrown out contained. They haven't been too bad - yet - but I think that's mostly because they are afraid that I'll just block them if they get too obnoxious (and I will).
I just need a break - when we start looking again, I will not be the primary searcher (unless Holly changes my mind), so I don't know exactly why they are acting like this. I've told the former potentials this, and I told my coworker that I'm just not ready yet ... but damn - I'm getting tired of it. |
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Well, the important stuff is posted in "An Announcement" on the "Ask a Mistress" forum on the message boards side of the site.
The trivial stuff is: I mowed the lawn today ... dang, it needed it - and rob was sick, so there was no way I was going to make him do it (he said he would do the trimming and mow the back tomorrow). I also cut my hair today. I haven't cut it since Fall '99, and it was down to my waist. But with everything else that has gone on recently, I decided that I needed a change. So, my hair is now right about shoulder length. Holly and rob both think it's cute  *I need a blushing emoticon, but am too lazy to keep looking LOL* I'll post a picture after we have one. |
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*banging head on wall* 
1 - we are a F/F couple
2 - we have two male submissives living with us that we are going to marry
3 - we have never done online and don't intend to start now
4 - we are not looking for any more submissives  
And now that I have that out of my system - back to more pleasant news. I start a new job on Monday, allen has started working again and will be contacting a lawyer soon about suing a few people regarding his injuries, rob has started a second job, and Holly seems to be getting better health-wise so that means she can work more. All of this is gearing up towards the two weddings that we are going to be having this summer. :-)  |
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Well, we're all preparing to get married. I'd share the links to the wedding jewelry we're getting, but they would just be edited out.
We're going to be getting two bracelets for Holly and rob, and rings for allen and me - total cost is under $400 ... which is good, because right now, I don't have a job and we've already spent our tax returns on the mortgage payment so that we don't lose the house before I start getting paid again. |
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Well, I just had my birthday ... and Christmas is just around the corner. We were going to get Holly a new puppy, but then my car decided to blow a head gasket or something and it's leaking sludge. So, now we fix the car and get the puppy later *sigh* At least we are all still (mostly) getting along. |
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We're now well past October. Since meeting our new boy and having him move in, we've had 3 birthdays (rob's, Holly's and the new boy's), a holiday (got to love Halloween *grin*), and now we are moving into the "family" holidays - Thanksgiving and Christmas. The corporal doesn't have much to do with his family, so it's basically our family (the four of us) and my family (parents, brothers, and sisters-in-law) that we have to organize with. We also have my birthday coming up (*sigh* I feel old ... I know I shouldn't, since I'm only going to be 28, but I still do).
The stress of work hasn't been so bad lately, which is one major plus, but trying to do Christmas shopping on a very very tight budget is incredibly difficult. We do have rob's done, and we know what we are getting for the corporal, but I have absolutely no frickin' clue what to get for Holly. Oh well, maybe I'll get her a gift certificate for one of our favorite toy stores .... |
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We are not looking for anything but friendships. If you want more than that, look elsewhere. Our household is full and we will make no exceptions. |
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Once again, the chat program on collarme is not one that I like to use. If you send a chat request, it will be declined. |
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Well, from the 13th of Sept to the 6th of Oct and things are still going well. We're still working on getting Holly and rob married, and allan is already talking about marriage with me. The house is finally getting painted, work ... well, work sucks, but that's life, and I think that's about it for now. |
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Our second boy moved in last night. This means that if he works out, our household is full. We hope that everyone that we have talked to over the last few years finds what they are looking for as well, and thank you to our friends who have shown us support during our search *pokes Beach and Bandit* |
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We are not looking - not for females, not for males, not for submissives of any kind. We have our two boys at this point and are quite happy with them both. We are open to friendship, but THAT IS IT and if you send an initial e-mail that looks like a form letter trolling for some ass, you will be, at the very least, ignored. I'm tired of it, people. "Submissives" of both genders have just messaged us wanting to serve - and it shows a serious lack of respect for us and our boys as human beings to do so ... so KNOCK IT OFF!!!! |
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This boy from work is going quite well - to the point that I have given him a chain to wear when he is not at work, and to carry in his pocket when he is ... he's not collared, but he's close. We've also been discussing the possibility of him moving in *eep!* Not sure exactly how I feel about that ... but then again, our first boy moved in after only 5 days of r/t interaction. |
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Potentially making another huge mistake, I've started dating another one of the officers at work (with Holly's blessing, of course).
This one is far more of a gentleman than the last one was, he's made rank in only 2 years while the other one is still an unranked CO after 6 years, he's quite sweet, quite submissive but definitely not passive, and I'm bringing him home to meet Holly and rob tomorrow night after work.
I just have to hope it goes well. |
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*sigh* once again, as nicely as I can say this - we really, honestly, truly, sincerely ARE NOT LOOKING right now. We aren't looking for anything but friends - no pets, no slaves, no subs, no pyl's of any kind. If we contact you, that's one thing, but to message us saying that you agree with everything in our profile, followed by what makes you the "perfect" pyl isn't going to endear you to us; neither is messaging us saying that you are sure that you were meant to be ours or that you are into the same type of D/s dynamics that we are. We aren't looking - please stop trying. |
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If you message, please - make it worth our time to read ... "hi" "hello" and "i want to serve you" (among others) are e-mails that are no longer going to get replied to. |
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Hmm... the potential didn't work out, but I don't know how ready I am to start looking - I am still thinking about putting Holly in charge of this for awhile. At this point though, I think we'll continue with our hiatus. |
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I just don't understand how people think some times. We don't put a ton of effort into the guys that we like for nothing - but it seems like that's all we get back from them. |
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I do not accept chat requests. If you want to talk, send us an e-mail (more than just one line, please). I don't like the chat program that collarme uses - it isn't very compatable with my computer for whatever reason. Not as bad as the one on OKCupid, but still, doesn't work very well. |
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We still aren't looking for anything but friendship. I'm not sure how many more times I can post this politely, guys, so please, for the love of whatever Diety/Power you hold Holy - believe me. If you are looking for friends in the lifestyle, by all means, message, say hi, introduce yourself (with more than a one-liner, please) ... but don't message saying that because you are "an honest and true slave" or any number of other things, that you are perfect for us. You aren't unless you are only looking for friendship, ok? |
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Things aren't working out with S afterall, but I'm not ready to start looking again, and since I'm the one who does all of the initial screening, please, don't message asking to be our slave. |
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Hey, guess what people ... our profile is up to date - we are still not looking.
Things are still going pretty well with S, and we aren't interested in anyone else at this point - trust me, if things change, we'll let y'all know, but until then, please don't message us thinking that you have a chance. |
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Things are going quite well so far with the boy from work ... We've actually officially been on a real date now (instead of just hanging out at his place) and he's met Holly and our boy, who both like him.
I just hope that things continue to go well. We have a mix of good and bad going on at this point, and I'd like for the good to start outnumbering the bad - we bought a nice, large house ... but our boy has to have surgery and will be puny while we are trying to move, which pisses him off. We found a boy that could be our fourth ... but even if things work out, he won't be able to move in with us for at least a few years (unless things change significantly ... at least he only lives about 30 min away from our new house). We bought a new puppy, who is sweet and loving ... but two of our cats are really really sick. I'd like to have things go well for a change ... no bad stuff for awhile. |
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The random way that life works. We had a guy coming to visit - he was a no-show. We had other guys who planned to visit ... they all vanished. We found a guy who was fabulous, he came to visit ... then suddenly decided that we had never really cared about him and he wasn't moving even though he said he was going to. We found another one (from a site that I was not expecting to find anyone compatable) who seemed great ... but he bailed out of the first visit and hasn't talked to me in about a week.
In the meantime (as those of you who frequent the message boards side of the site already know) I got asked out by someone at work. He's sweet, he's friendly, he's definitely maso, and the more I talk to him, the more subby traits come out. I would never have expected to find someone compatable at work, but hey, life is funny sometimes ... now we have to see what comes of it. |
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All is well now, Grendel-baby is back home where he belongs.  |
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 Last September, two of our cats got out of the house, we don't know how they got out, and we only recaptured one of them. Tonight, we were all three watching a movie. When it was over, our boy took Chaos (the dog) out, and came back in with MIA (Holly's kitten) and said that we needed to do a cat-count because one of the screens had popped out of the window. The only cat that is missing is my baby cat ... we put food out for him, but I don't know if we'll ever see him again ... we never found the other one that got out. |
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If you send us an e-mail, and I haven't replied to it, please be patient. Those of you who put thought into your messages deserve to have the same thought put into a reply, and honestly, right now I don't have the capacity. |
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That house we went to look at? We're buying it ... I am starting to feel like a responsible adult ... and I'm not sure I like it 
I love the house though, good location (although we will have to buy a generator, because we are almost guarenteed to lose power at least once every winter), lots of space, room for a swimming pool ... now we just have to work on getting everything packed ready to go. Right now, I'm procrastinating because I'm exhausted from work followed by getting stuck in a damn traffic jam on the way home  |
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We are getting ready to go look at a house. For those who are interested, yes, it will be big enough for 4 adults and our zoo. We were quite specific in our search to ensure that we would have enough space for everyone ... the house that we are in now blows because it isn't big enough for us, much less another person added to it. |
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Yeah, we're looking again ... *sigh* I wish that people could be honest and dependable. |
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Just a word of warning after running into the insensitivity that some people show in today's world - do not ever compare a non-violent crime to a violent crime and expect me to let you get away with it, and never blame the victim of a violent crime. |
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Why is it that some people can see our updated profile and some people can't? Right now, we aren't looking - we have some potentials that we want to see what happens, and we don't want to lead anyone on thinking that they have a chance at this point. |
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Blah, Holly is at a cookout for work tonight, and our boy isn't home yet *sniffle* I was talking to a potential earlier, but he had a phone call and never came back. It wouldn't be so bad except that my allergies have gone completely haywire, so I'm already in a bad mood, and I've been bombarded by idiots tonight which definitely doesn't help matters. |
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Uploaded different/more pictures ... hopefully they will be approved quickly. |
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Just something to point out - we are not female supremacists. We think that the 'theory' is rather silly. Neither gender is superior to the other - there are just as many stupid, stubborn, imbicillic .. whatever ... females (and males) out there as there are smart, cultured, intelligent, resonable ones. |
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And to the asshole who sent me this: "one word ___ UGLY" - I didn't ask you for your opinion, and I don't see the point of messaging someone with such a pointless damn message. It is a waste of your time and mine. No one is forcing you to stay on our profile, so click the hell off of it. |
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Well, I have a new job (not exactly sure when I'll be starting, but most likely by Wednesday), so YIPPEE!!
Right now, though, we are on a major cleaning spree. The living room is almost done, the kitchen is well underway, the office ... well, I didn't think the office was that bad to begin with. The bedroom needs a lot of work (always) as does the playroom (again, always *sigh* we don't actually use it as a playroom, I think that's the problem - we just shove things in there when we don't know what else to do with them).
So, yeah ... I've given y'all another glimpse into the life of Karen and Holly - now it's time for me to get back to work. |
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I'm going to be putting pics of the two of us up in the next few days. I'm pretty sure that means that our profile will be unavailable for awhile, so if you want to know while the profile is down, message me and I'll send a copy of the profile. |
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So Bandit - I know you read this, and I know you've been watching my debates over in the message boards side - am I amusing you? LOL |
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Once again, it's the wee hours of the morning and I'm awake. None of our potential boys are online to chat with, I can't concentrate enough to read a book (I tried - with more than one book to see if maybe it was just the book), I can't play any of my favorite computer games because they are all DOS based and I have windows XP, there is absolutely nothing on tv worth watching and I've watched all of our movies that I care to. *sigh* being nocturnal sucks sometimes. |
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For those of you who are obviously outside of our criteria (i.e. female, Dominant, outside of our age range, outside of the US) we have our bulk mail filter on, and I only check the folder about once every other week or so ... so be patient if you are messaging to chat - and if you are messaging to try and become our pet and get sent to our bulk mail folder ... expect to be deleted - you've been warned, I don't feel bad. |
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For all of the people who have added us to your favorites list ... why have us on there if you aren't going to talk to us? What is the point - I'm honestly curious ... I put people onto our list because either I am chatting with them, I know them from somewhere else, or I'm waiting for their profile to be approved ... Since there are a lot of people on our "admirers" list, whom we have never talked to, I'm just wondering why you have all added us to your favorites list if you aren't going to talk to us (and no, Bandit, this is not directed at you ... I now know why you added us LOL). |
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I really shouldn't have to explain what "single" means, but apparently, I do.
Single means that you are not dating someone seriously, it means that you are not living with a significant other, it means that you are not married.
I point this out because we just got messaged by a potential's wife. I am not amused, I am not please - this is not cool. If you are attached, then don't waste our time. |
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I know that I have a lot of journal entries, but ... I put my thoughts up here - my frustrations with the search, when things are going well, whatever - because that gives you some insight to how we work. It would behoove you to pay attention to them and at least skim through what I have written. |
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Please don't be so silly as to send us a stupid form letter that you obviously wrote ages ago and send to everyone. It's irritating, and the fact that you obviously either can't be bothered to read the profile, or can't be bothered to follow our simple instructions will NOT impress us with your level of submission.
Really, I don't think it's too much to ask that you put at least a little bit of thought into contacting us. |
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So, yeah, even Dom/mes get depressed sometimes, and right now is one of those times for this Domme (as always, this is Ms. Karen posting). We put a lot (and I mean, a LOT) of time and effort into baggage boy, and it was a total waste. We got nothing in return but a week of housework, a few good massages, some good sex and a breakup letter that made me cry last night at work when I (stupidly, I admit it) read it. Right now, I just want to curl up in a ball and cry for a week ... or lay in the dark alone ... or hide in a hole somewhere ... I know that I can't and obviously, since I'm still at my computer (which is in a well lit home-office) I haven't done any of the above - but I still want to. The fact that he decided to do this when I'm at the moodiest point of my cycle probably doesn't help much, huh? |
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I totally don't get it - why would someone name themself "worthless" or "loser" or whatever?? Seriously, if you are wanting to sell yourself to someone, why would you make it as if you aren't worth their time?? We don't want to own someone who considers himself to be a loser or worthless ... we want someone who values himself and his gift of submission as much as we will. |
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Well, I took Holly to the hand surgeon today, and apparently, because of where the cyst is in her wrist, they can't remove it because there is a 60% chance that it has wrapped around the artery on that side and she would lose it.
They did, however, give her an anti-inflamitory and a thumb brace to wear, since they say she has tendonitis and carpal tunnel syndrome. So at least they are doing something ... I want my Holly better. |
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And once again, I'm up in the middle of the night. For those of you who are observant, you should have already noticed that I am nocturnal. I have, in the past, been accused of being a vampire LOL
So yeah, here I am, at nearly 2am, no one is online, and I'm bored out of my damn mind ... 
I really just want someone to chat with, but no one is around ... our best two potentials had to go to bed because of work (stupid work, always getting in the way of my fun LOL  ) |
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Yeah ... if you look stoned, or like a serial killer in your pic ... we probably aren't going to be interested - make sure that if you have a pic, it doesn't make you look creepy or like a stoner dropout, ok? |
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So, yeah ... 'baggage boy' is officially gone - at least he finally got the balls to say it. *sigh and sniffle* I still love him, but I already knew we were going to have to move on, so ... just letting y'all know that he is no longer in the picture at all, so there are no unfair disadvantages for you. |
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Once again, I have to say this ... and it irritates me beyond imagining that people don't pay attention ...
WE DON'T DO CONTRACTS, WE DON'T WANT TO BLACKMAIL ANYONE, WE AREN'T INTERESTED IN ANYONE WHO FEELS THE NEED TO BE BLACKMAILED WITH A SILLY PIECE OF PAPER OR THEY WON'T STAY AND SERVE US.
And now that I have that out of my system - we are looking for pets, boys to be loved, cherished, and cared for as they serve us ... boys who will love us as much as we love each other and as much as we love them ... boys who serve us because they love us and want us to be happy - not because some stupid piece of paper, that wouldn't even stand up in court if we tried it, and not because they fear the repercussions of them leaving. |
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Just an update on Holly's health - we went to a doctor again today, and this one actually did something for her. She now has some meds that will keep her pain under control (hopefully) and I think that she will be ok once we get her pain down to managable levels. |
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OK guys, listen up ... we don't do contracts, and anyone who claims to not want any rights and to have no limits is either a liar or incredibly unimaginative. We also aren't interested in animal play, we aren't interested in guys who claim that they can/will relocate tomorrow to be with us. We are looking for a full relationship with a PERSON - not an animal, not an object. Yes, we will call you bitch from time to time. Yes, we will objectify you from time to time. But we want a person ... we want a personality ... we are looking for someone that I can take to meet my parents. Get it through to whichever head is in control that if you message us with a stupid "i will b urs 4ever, i have no limits and will sign contract" we aren't going to be interested. |
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As of sometime around midnight tonight, Holly and I had our 5th anniversary (unfortunately, I can't remember exactly when I proposed anymore *blush* at least I know it was sometime around midnight on the 19/20th ... better than some).
We didn't do too much to celebrate, but I did get her a beautiful anklet that she can actually wear, since she can't wear the engagement ring anymore. I love her dearly and I hope to have many many more anniversaries with her - and if we are lucky, we will have many with our boys here to serve us and celebrate with us. |
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Ok, so, more info about us.
We both have health issues. I (Karen) have chronic fatigue syndrome, and some nasty allergies. The bigger problem is Holly. She has degenerative joint disease (also known as osteoarthritis), migraines, a currently undiagnosed heart condition, and has just been getting worse and worse lately. With our first boy being on the road all the time, and me working full time, we just can't take care of her like she needs to be cared for. I really think that if we could care for her she would get better, but we can't do it and still pay the rent and so forth.
I really just want to put this out here, because if someone doesn't want to have to care for an ill Mistress, then this isn't the place for them. I sometimes need a lot of care, and right now at least, she needs 24/7 care (although, as I said before, if we could do that for awhile, then she would be better and wouldn't need that much). |
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yeah, well ... as you can see from our updated profile, we are already looking again. I know that in the end, finding the one that is perfect for us will be worth it, but in the meantime, I just want to go on a rampage. *sigh* maybe someday we will finally find what we are looking for. Until then, I continue to search through the hoardes ... |
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So, we have a few potentials, yay. Some look better than others, of course, but they do all have potential (thus we call them what we do). The boy with all the baggage has also been making some good progress, but who knows if it will be enough. At least we have options now.
I thank everyone who was interested, and for those who are still interested, don't give up - every single one of the ones that we're talking to right now could bail or turn out not be what we want. |
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And now for the rest of the entry, since it wouldn't let me put all of it in the first time ...
We truely don't care about looks. To show that, let me tell you a little more about us. We are both basically straight, but we happened to fall in love with each other - with the personality inside the body, not the body. It threw us both for a little bit, but we truly love each other, and we got over it. Because I love her, yes, I am very very physically attracted to her, but only because I love her - random women do nothing for me ... I can appreciate their beauty, but they don't turn me on, and she is the same way. I can be as shallow as the next person and drool over some stud - until he opens his mouth. If he can't be pleasant and hold an intelligent conversation, all attraction goes out the window. And if someone doesn't attract me physically at first sight - so what? If he IS pleasant and can converse intelligently, I WILL be attracted to him physically.
So yeah, there it is guys - take it or leave us alone, ok? |
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Ok guys, here is the deal. Holly and I are not your stereotypical porno tall amazonian blond bitch type dominatrix. We are real people, we have our issues - mental, emotional, physical. We are both bbw, overweight, fat, however you want to put it. I happen to be losing weight, Holly unfortunately is gaining a little due to a heart condition that just does not allow her to do much physical activity at all. If this is an issue for you, then move on. We don't want to be told that we are gross, we don't want to be told that we are unhealthy - we know what the media says, we know what is supposedly "beautiful" ... and we don't buy into it. We are happy the way that we are 90% of the time, which is more than most people can say. We aren't going to change ourselves for anyone but ourselves. If you are so shallow that you cannot accept that who a person is inside is more important than what they look like, then move on, don't even bother. |
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*bangs head on desk* and another rant inspired by another site ...
D/s is NOT all about sex. Yes, it can be, and usually is, quite sexual, but it is NOT ... I repeat again - NOT all about sex. If that's what you are looking for, then fine, great for you, but don't claim to be a lifestyler if that's what you are looking for. People who actually do live the lifestyle - 24/7 or part time - know that it's not, and we get a little pissy when people are so blatently ignorant. And don't think that you are doing to "disillusion" us about what our lifestyle is about - we live it, you don't ... don't tell me what my life is until you've lived it. |
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If you talk to us, and decide that we aren't for you, have the guts to say so. Been talking to two different guys tonight, and both of them just *poof* vanished, won't even reply to say that they have decided we aren't for them ... now yes, it could be a problem with the IM service, but really ... they could send a message through here saying ... something.
*roar of rage* one of them flat out deleted, unread, a message from me. Now really, do they expect us to believe that they AREN'T fakes and players when they pull stunts like this???? |
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And another thing ... I have mild dyslexia, and thus I proofread things ... A LOT ... before I send them to make sure that they are coherent. However, this means that "netspeak" is sometimes quite difficult for me to understand, and if you are spelling things totally wrong to begin with, it probably won't make much sense to me ... so please, for the love of whatever God/Goddess/Whatever that you happen to believe in - make sure that at least spacing and punctuation are correct, use the correct form of words (i.e. don't use "there" when "their" is what you mean, etc.), and at least make an attempt at spelling things correctly. |
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Read the profile ... read it carefully ... very carefully ... there will probably be a test.
And along the same lines - if you have nothing in your profile, expect to be passed by. |
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Something that I forgot to update in our list of qualifications - if you have any issues with pitbulls, this isn't the place for you. We have gotten a pitbull/sharpei mutt and she is our baby - we don't want anyone who will be afraid of her, and we won't tolerate anyone who will be mean to her or constantly lecture us about how she will turn on us and eat us in the middle of the night *rolls eyes*.
We have also now gotten our new hamster - and he is the cutest, fluffiest hamster on the planet ... holy cow this hamster is fluffy. And we have a frog now, instead of a turtle (the turtle died, unfortunately). I think that's the last of the updates on our zoo. I just want to make sure that we don't end up putting a lot of effort into someone who can't live with cats, or hamsters, or frogs, or whatever ... |
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This is a rant stemming from another site ...
Please people ... read the list ... we didn't spend hours ironing out the details to have it be ignored. If you are 51, you aren't gonna be ours ... it is totally unlikely that we will be compatable, so please, don't waste your time or ours. If you are female, it isn't ever gonna happen - move on. If you aren't a US citizen, we aren't interested. If you are looking for a quick, kinky roll in the hay because you aren't getting it from your wife - huh uh ... ain't happening ... get a life, wanker. 
We are seriously looking for someone to be added to our family. Someone that we can love, cherish, and care for as he serves us alongside our other boy. Eventually, this is intended to be a Collared/Married relationship (my girlfriend and our other boy are already making plans for their wedding ... now we just need to find mine).
I'm just getting so tired of people who refuse to read ... who think that just because we are Dominant and they are submmissive, that that's all that is needed and we'll just fall over ourselves to be allowed the privalage of Dominating them. *insert eye rolling smiley, that I'm sure exists but I just can't seem to find, here* |
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ok, this site is like, totally driving me nuts tonight ... it just did something squirly and I don't even know what I did ...
But anyway, as I was trying to say before the screen changed for no apparent reason, we are now looking again, as our profile states (or will as soon as it's approved and all that).
Our search has been quite hard, and seems to be excruciatingly long, but I know that others have looked longer *sigh* just sucks when it's us. Right now, I kinda feel like just giving up, but I know that I wouldn't be happy with that either.
So, yeah ... we're looking again, and hopefully between this site and the other that we are on, we will finally find what we are looking for *sigh* |
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We have never gotten anything on this site until today ... months after we changed our profile to state that we are only looking for friends now. The e-mail was asking if the guy fit our criteria (of which there is none, since we are only looking for friends, and he only put his stats up anyway). It's frustrating and annoying when people don't bother to read the profiles that others put up ... please people, read the profiles. Usually, there will be a clue in there as to if they are genuine or just players/fakes/wankers and those of us who do fill them out, fill them out for a reason. |
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| Age: 24 |
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