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| You must show Me your inner strength as well as your unquestioning trust. If you wish be found pleasing to Me, you must struggle to please Me and not yourself. If you wish to devote your life to Me, you must learn that your role is not as My peer. If you would consider yourself Mine,
Are you prepared to be slave, even when its not easy or fun? If you call yourself slave, will you obey even in fury or tears?
Do you eliminate the "If"s from your vocabulary, and realize that slavery is not conditional? A slave gives from the heart, she doesn't consider it a "gift" Its not all wrapped up in rainbows and pink ribbons, Its bound in determined sacrifice and decorated with her tears of pain, effort, and bliss Its the sheerest, most primitive, raw _expression of self she can give She gives only what is left, after the pride and defenses crumble and she is left exposed to his eyes
She gives herself, because she could not imagine not giving to him. She is bound by own need, as strongly than the steel around her neck. You have no right to expect to be respected, to expect love in 'return' for your slavery. You have nothing to expect, except that he will do as he pleases.
You have no right to censor your slavery, or your thoughts or deeds. Are you ready to be treated as a slave? Are you ready to put someone's happiness above your own? Do you put aside your own desires and accept that they will only be fulfilled if he chooses to do so? Are you ready to strive always to please, and to not grow lazy and ride on past successes?
Do you have the ability to lose your selfishness, your sense of looking after yourself first? Can you leave your pride behind? Consent is given once, when the collar is begged. For a slave, there is no limits or conditions on consent. Everything is given then, in that one moment, when a girl crawls to beg for ownership, regardless of whether it is denied or not. Consent doesn't involve negotiating, a power you gave up the moment you felt his ownership.
You have no power once you surrender all. Never give what is most sacred to you, if you cannot trust this person with your life. Never forget, it's not about you anymore. Never lose sight that it is a privilege to be owned, and a huge responsibility to those who own you.
Never forget to be grateful if someone does take on you as a possession. Can you be truly, hopelessly, absolutely owned? Are you worth being owned? Only he knows. Ownership is not taken lightly by either side. And if you impose limits on the Master you claim to be owned by... You only own yourself.
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MasterLiam666
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Los Angeles California 10/24/04
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Dominant 5' 11" 185 lbs 56 Caucasian
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Slave 5' 0" 120 lbs 30 Caucasian
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Most of Y/you already know Me and perhaps W/we have shared times together, Y/you may have also seen My performances around the country or watched any one of My hundreds of films, clips or just have seen My internet presence. Either way Y/ya’ll know Me!
What E/everyone “does” and should know is that I am fair and I know what the fuck I am doing. I will “NEVER” screw anyone out of there just desserts (good or bad).
Producer/ actor/ performer/ filmmaker/ kinkster and bad boy!
I am starting a few BDSM clip stores at as many sites I can put out there. So I will be looking for partners to shoot with (interested?).
Store content can be any type of fantasy or kink Y/you’d desire. I need boys and girls (18 and older) of all sizes and kinks who are in good health. (W/we will find Y/your niche).
I will be shooting at different locations: so W/we can come to Y/you as long as it’s in Los Angeles, CA (at least for now).
Being a partner means having profit on all scenes shot with Y/you in it (only). All monies will be split evenly, minus the cost to shoot and post. The percentages depend on how many people are in each clip shot. (ie; solo’s get 50%, 35% to shoot with Me, 25% with another Dom/Domme/Switch/slave/sub ect.). Anyone you bring with to shoot splits Y/your share (if ya decide to share with them; this is up to Y/you).
Costs associated that will deduct from Y/your bottom line are for example: Space and/or equipment rentals, which W/we will try and have non existent. Credit card billing costs to companies hosting our content (billing cost ranges from 1-5% depending).
“All filming, photos, editing, posting of updates, accounting, and checks to be issued will come out will be covered in My percentage.”
All sales will be tracked and each model will be able see all income for there input into each clip shot. W/we all get paid once a month and a printout will accompany every check so Y/you can see there isn’t anything being kept from Y/you that should be in Y/your pockets! (agreed?)
This partnership last as long as Y/you want it. Keep shooting and share the profits forever. Otherwise the partnership/income expires after 6 months from the time W/we post Y/your clip the first time.
All shoots give Y/you the opportunity to play with and have a memorable experience keepsake with many Legends of the BDSM community and Myself of course if you are lucky!
I am still working on all the details but if you are interested in earning extra income in theses hard times (and I'm sure it'll be fun), let me know your question and thoughts on this.
So send Y/your info and interests to Me here, as I can start compiling a list and start scheduling Y/you freaks and kinksters!
Liam
PS: I also want to add, that I don’t expect to create a store with just porn as the content: I much more prefer smut and that means "NO" sex (sorry) unless everyone’s on the same page about there own content and how far W/we want to go into any scene that W/we are shooting (understand?).
PSS: No test, No Sex, unless its Y/you and Y/your partner(s) who Y/you are blood bonded with already. “No Exceptions”!
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From: LADanisub
To: sir@masterliam.com
Subject: Entry 3: S.L.A.V.E.
Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 11:27 pm
S.L.A.V.E
S- Submit to your Master?.He chanted into my ear from behind me as i stood in front of Him, my head pressed against the leather cross.
L- Live to please Him?. He demanded me to spread my legs farther apart.
A- Abandon all boundaries? He said as He slid my pink lace panties down to my ankles and slid His strong hands in between my pulsing thighs.
V- Vow to Him only?He whispered into my ear right as He found my pressure point of pleasure
E- Emanate His will?
It was a day of instruction in my journey of learning to submit to Master Liam. As W/we hung out in the pool house that day He brought each of His whips and paddles out and placed each one onto the pool table explaining the purpose each one had behind his hand. Each one was uniquely different and each one possessed a different realm of pain. i enjoyed watching Him grasp each one inside the palm of His hand. Watching the sinister sparkle in His eye each time He cracked one of the whips into the open air.
I learned a lot about His life that day. He leaned against the pool table sharing some of the colorful stories that paint the picture of his life. Listening to some of the scattered parts of his life experiences that created the man who He has become today made me envision a Jackson Pollock painting, one of my favorite artists (when I look at his paintings I get lost in the wisdom, the splashes of color and the chaos that all seem to fit together to become a visual masterpiece in the end). There is so much more to learn about Him, i know this is only the beginning. i anticipate this journey to become an enriching chapter in my life, one that i am hopeful will not be short lived.
At one point in the day i found myself hypnotized by the sound of His voice and the words emanating from Him. i find him to be incredibly sexy? everything about Him, the way He talks, the touch of His hands, the strength inside of Him and His uncanny ability to captivate me. Being in His presence becomes my foreplay. i suddenly wanted Him so badly?.i did all day but at this moment my wanting for Him was burning inside of me. i sat across from Him on the couch, crossing my legs in the Sharon Stone pose. i wanted to pounce on Him, but i was waiting to take His lead.
He asked me to follow Him into the dungeon?my body started to tingle?i knew i would be in for a treat. He walked over to the corner of the room to wooden chest of drawers filled with various sexually arousing torture devises that i have never seen before. One of the drawers had a variety of nipple clamps inside of it. i have never had nipple clams used on me before?.before that day to be exact. He pulled out a pair with large black clamps on each end connected together by a metal chain.
He told me to pull my tank top down and He attached one on each of my nipples and He then placed the metal chain in between my teeth. The sensation sent chills up and down my spine. i yearned for him to grasp my breasts in His hands and manhandle them?shortly thereafter He did. Next, He took out an iron posture collar which He then strapped snuggly around my neck, attached to it was a long iron pole that went down my back with metal cuffs at the end that He secured my wrists inside of. He positioned me in front of the full length mirror so i could see myself in it. i stared at myself and Him standing beside me, as i looked over into O/our reflection i felt twistedly content. He told me to place myself in the appropriate position in front of the leather cross. i craved Him with every ounce of my desires at that moment. i knew soon my craving for Him would be satisfied and i patiently awaited what He would do to me next.
He held me from behind and asked, ?Have I ever taught you what the word SLAVE stands for?? He told me when Miss Alice was a S.I.T. (slave in training) he gave her a task to come up with an acronym for the word SLAVE. He then started with S?submit to your Master? He chanted into my ear from behind me as i stood in front of Him, my head pressed against the leather cross. L?live to please Him, He then demanded me to spread my legs farther apart. A? Abandon all boundaries? He said as He slid my pink lacey panties down to my ankles and placed his strong hands in between my pulsing thighs. V? Vow to Him only?He whispered into my ear right as He found my pressure point of pleasure, a spot that no man has ever touch that way before. His fingers delicately rubbed in a circular motion right above my clit?the place i engage each time I make myself cum. i craved His fingers inside me so badly at this point?i craved His hard cock inside me even more. E?emanate His will?he began to forcefully finger fucked me as i proceeded to get goose bumps covering every surface of my body. He pushed them in and out with one hand and rubbed my clit with the other.
i believe one of the sexiest parts of a man to be his hands and the touch behind them?He has it?and He has mastered his ability to demonstrate this to me. i could hear Him unzipping His pants behind me?i knew within moments He would take me with His beautiful cock and i was turned to a point of no return. my hands were still cuffed behind my back right at the level of where his hard cock spilled out into my hands. i grasped it inside the palm of both of my hands and caressed while i felt it getting harder and harder. I could feel the tip of it exploring my sex?searching to fill my hole. He thrusted it inside of me and a sense of satisfaction fell upon my entire existence at that moment.
He gripped onto my hips and relentlessly took me from behind. An explosion of desire filled my blood, my body fell into a sexual utopia. He sternly demanded me to get down onto my knees?since meeting Him i often fantasize about sucking His cock?its one of my favorite cocks i have encountered in my 25 years of life and sucking His cock brings me much pleasure. i parted my lips and took it down my throat over and over again?gagging and salivating with every stroke of my bobbing head. He told me to look over to the full length mirror to view this visual fantasy W/we were reflecting into it. What i saw was far more erotic than any fetish porn i had ever viewed, this was my reality, this was my fantasy being played in my world with Master Liam. It was exhilarating to see O/our reflection staring back at us.
i continued to suck Him with my burning desire to please Him. He then released me from the posture collar and cuffs and bent me over an elevated leather stand that stood up to my waist as He continued to thrust inside of me?i gratefully took each thrust i endured?i wished the moment would never come to an end?He pulled out of me and took His shaft in His hand as i assumed the position on my knees. He came inside of my mouth. His cum so bitter sweet?I sucked every ounce of it down with pride.
He told me to stand at the cross. i assumed the position and W/we played a little game of S.L.A.V.E. He said S?.waiting for my reply?He pulled out the cane?1?2?my mind raced rampantly trying to think of the acronym? 3 SLAP!! i recognized the burning sensation from that cane. As it was the one i got the night on stage at Bar Sinister. ?Submit to your MASTER!? L?.He pulled out the cow hide cane which i had never experienced. 1?2?3 ?Live to please HIM!? he sternly stated. Slap! That one packed a sting far more relentless than the wooden cane?.which i never anticipated was possible. A?1?2??Abandon all boundaries!? i quickly responded. V?1?.2?i racked my brain but couldn?t find the words in time 3! SLAP! E?1?2?3? W/we played the game until i could remember each one. i liked that game! J
After that W/we went outside and sat at the poolside gazebo and chatted and smoked for a little bit before it was time for me to say our goodbyes and head to work.
As soon as i drove away i craved Him all over again. i got to work and didn?t know how i would ever be able to focus in the vanilla-ville that surrounded me. i put on my black cocktail dress and tied my silk scarf around my neck and headed in. Each time i greeted someone with Sir I thought of Master Liam and him bending me over and violently taking me in His dungeon that day. my mind wandered all night long ?.i wondered if my co-workers could see my the turn of events in my day, as i felt that it was plastered on my forehead. Once again my day with Master Liam exceeded my expectations. i patiently await O/our next encounter?.
until then i will lay in my bed with my neon green dolphin vibrator?close my eyes and fantasize upon the journey I have begun with Him and wonder where He will take me next?
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Journal Entry by Master_Liam
“I’m saying you’ve already done plenty of things to regret, you just don’t know what they are. It’s when you discover them, when you see the folly in something you’ve done, and you wish that you had it do over, but you know you can’t, because it’s too late. So you pick that thing up, and carry it with you to remind you that life goes on, the world will spin without you, you really don’t matter in the end. Then you will gain character, because honesty will reach out from inside and tattoo itself across your face.” — The Big Kahuna (1999)
I might ruffle some feathers with this next gem, but here goes. There is a saying that has floated around for I don’t know how long, but I absolutely despise it. I don’t know who invented this quip… this kernel of pseudo-wisdom… and I don’t care. Because every time I hear it my ears bleed. What is this hemorrhage inducing verbal ice pick?“NO REGRETS!”Garbage. I don’t want to know the person who has no regrets. I don’t want to know the person who is unapologetic with their life.
I don’t want to know the person who has never disliked something they’ve done or said; that refuses to recognize or is unaware that their words or actions have negatively influenced a person or situation. And likewise, I do not want to know the person who has never wished they had acted or spoken when they had the opportunity, but did not; when there was an opportunity to positively change the outcome of some situation and they didn’t take it.A person with no regrets is either living their life on the surface of their soul or is a sociopath.
A person with no regrets has no substance, no character. You cannot get close to a person who has no regrets because that person cannot get close to you. I want to know the person who feels they have wronged someone and wishes they hadn’t.
I want to know the person who regrets not trying to stop that person who was hurting another. I want to know the person who has made mistakes with their life and knows it… and regrets. That is the person with more than a story… that is a person who’s life is a novel worth reading.The person who regrets knows what respect is… knows that there are boundaries in life: boundaries of possession, position, relationship, and trust.
The person who regrets knows that they must give in order to get. They understand the cost in life because peoples’ actions and feelings have value… have meaning. They know that breaking those boundaries requires compensation and amends because they have broken those boundaries before and have felt remorse for doing so.The person who regrets is the person who knows what love is… what honor is… because you have never loved if you have never regretted anything. Love is that precious; that sacred.
It is the investment of one soul into another. And regret is the honor of that bond. When you breach that investment and do not regret it, then you never loved in the first place.No regrets. That is the worst statement I have ever heard.
floggingjonny: 10 months ago| delete
Truly beautiful and well written Sir. You always have a way with words, and one of the most knowledgeable people in our lifestyle. Wwe are truly lucky to have You Sir.
. Cannibal_Artist:
wowza... i don't know if you remember or not... (it has been a few years now since i have been in your physical presence or since this happened) but we once had this very conversation one late evening. it was not long after i found out i was sick with cancer and i mentioned how some people said some odd comments to me trying to cheer me up and like this one "live with no regrets".
i broke into tears in the middle of a party, and i mean the ugly face kind of tears and you took me under your arm and asked me why i was so upset. i mentioned there are to sayings i hate the most that being one of them and the other "keep your chin up". i also mentioned how i have my regrets in life, mess up i have made and ill advise i have given and would never change them or i would have never learned or grown into the woman i am today. but in saying that i kept wondering if i was a bad person because i did have my regrets, lived my life on the edge, loved and lost, hurt and healed others which all feed into my life as an artist who showed my pain and love through my large scale drawings. was it wrong to love my wrong doings which didn't allow me to fit into the norm?
You sat there just a moment and then you shared a wonderful story with me on your own thought on the situation. very similar to...
"A person with no regrets has no substance, no character.... The person who regrets knows that they must give in order to get. They understand the cost in life because peoples’ actions and feelings have value… have meaning. They know that breaking those boundaries requires compensation and amends because they have broken those boundaries before and have felt remorse for doing so." Master Liam
...Your advise was sound and true then as it is today. i never forgot your words to me and it fed my fire deep in me to push through my treatment and to pursue my dreams of moving back east, go to an ivy league art school for my graduate studies and to claw my way to the top in the art world. i am still clawing my way to the top of the art world but i did complete the others in fine form.
but until i read this thread you posted today did i once again feel that fire burn hot once more. over the last 4 months i have not walked into my art studio at all nor have i had the slightest interested in doing any art. but something in this thread hit me hard and made me relive that moment so many years ago again. it is time to get off my hot little butt and walk back into that studio, time to stop feeling sorry for myself for dumb shit and remember the life i have lived with such pleasure and start living again the life that has gotten me to where i am now.
thank you so much for posting this and i hope it can touch others in the way it has touched me; once again.
. WindRider:
I am struggling with this.
Because I regret nothing. There has been too much pain and hate in my past that I've had to accept. Choices I've made that I've had to move through and surpass. And each lesson, each mistake, was necessary to me. And has changed me, created someone different. How could I possibly regret all that which has molded me into someone I can love and respect and enjoy being?
I am sorry for any I've hurt, and I will never repeat my mistakes and cause another the same. But I will never regret it. Nor wish things might have been different.
I live my life without apology because I had to survive it and life is worth too much to suffer eternally for things no longer within my power to fix.
. Brandi23:
Brandi23
Liam,
You put into beautiful words something I've felt most of my adult life. I was married for over 20 years to an awesome man. We had 10-12 unbelievable years together, took on the world, did what we wanted, traveled, and made dreams real. Then he had open heart surgery. And then three years later was diagnosed with cancer. Five years after he was "cancer free," we separated and ended our marriage.
I have at least 20 regrets that span the years that illness took over our home. So many times I could have made a different choice that might have significantly altered the outcome of things. But then I think, "Yeah, but he is alive and cancer free, so some of it was good and not to be regretted." And that is true...but I'm nearly certain we could have achieved the same outcome via a different route.
I do have regrets. Sometimes they keep me up at night. Sometimes not. But I have loved deeply, completely and fully. I felt despair, hopelessness and paralyzing fear. I have had my heart broken, felt tremendous hurt, and wished for a second chance countless times. And yet...still the regrets.
I have some lofty ambitions these days, and I am determined to go full speed ahead. I haven't flushed everything out yet, but I have a goal and I will attain it. I will forge ahead with as much dignity as possible, treating people as well as I've been treated by some, and using the lessons I've learned from others (like you) who have walked before me and made their dreams reality. Will there be regrets? Hell yeah. What will they be about? shrugs shoulders
Thanks for taking time to write this out. It speaks to a place deep inside of me, and it confirms my belief that in order to live fully and completely I have to accept that I will have regrets. You are wise and real, both traits I much admire. I hope we will have the chance to meet in person soon. We've come so close quite a few times.
Peace out
velvetgirl
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**"So few of them are truly ready. They may have flirted with the trappings of a subculture and found it to be the extraordinary aphrodisiac it is. But a steady diet of aphrodisia is far too overwhelming. To survive and to thrive in this world, an applicant must need it more then they need pleasure, more then they need the companionship of peers, more then they need even the barest personal satisfaction."
~Laura Antoniou~ |
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Polyamorous & Leather Families
Polyamory (from Greek πολύ [poly, meaning many or several] and Latin amor [literally “love”]) is the desire, practice, or acceptance of having more than one loving, intimate relationship at a time with the full knowledge and consent of everyone involved. The term polyamory is sometimes abbreviated to poly, and is sometimes described as consensual, ethical, or responsible non-monogamy. The word is sometimes used more broadly to refer to any sexual or romantic relationships that are not sexually exclusive, though there is disagreement on how broadly it applies.
Polyamory can refer to the practice or status of a relationship at a given time, or used as a description of a lifestyle, philosophy or relationship orientation (much like gender orientation), rather than of an individual's actual relationship status at a given moment. It is an umbrella term that covers many orientations and modes of relationship. There is fluidity in its definition to accommodate the different shades of meaning which might be covered. Polyamorous relationships are themselves varied, reflecting the choices and philosophies of the individuals concerned.
Polyamory differs from polygamy, although the two terms are occasionally used incorrectly as if they are interchangeable. Polygamy more accurately refers to specific structures of recognized relationships, while polyamory is a personal outlook grounded in such concepts as choice, trust, equality of free will, and the idea of compersion, and newer cultural traditions distinct from the religious and cultural traditions of polygamy.
Leather Families are those that have bonded through the BDSM lifestyle and have elected to join together as a family. A leather family generally has structure and protocols in place as well as rituals. The only way to become part of the family is by invitation. Each family is different. Most are not intimate sexually or romantically. It is strictly a Dominant/submissive association with respect to all members of the family.
Old School Leather Families earned their positions. A dominant did not simply acquire that position because he wanted it. He went into service to a Master in the family and learned from him such as an apprentice trained with a Master Craftsman. The ways of the lifestyle were taught and the new dominant knew what it meant to serve another as he had experienced it himself.
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Oh yea I was just reminded by a fellow CM submissive, That I am featured in the latest issue of Taboo magazine with Goddess Soma (Soma Snakeoilf), Rockin out with My cock out! and doing breast infusion (yep I took here small B cup and made her a full DD! Really! |
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I am now the proud owner of 2 new pets, training and for now only considering. Oh but what fun W/we are having... |
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It is funny how, some days I am full of ideas and wanting to experiment with play, and then other days I wish I would clean house and just fill it up with new eager pets.... Today is both. I want to play and train all day. I will be holding a class with 5 of My eagers, and do demos... Yay for Me!!! |
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I wonder if I still have the ability to train any new slaves/subs/tops..... |
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It now looks as VA may be home to Master Liam and krew! I found yet another Mansion (other one was bought out from under Me), and it is bigger and has central heat and air! Thats a plus, and a heated pool too! Yay! I will be traveling before ends month to NY and then to look at this home.. (this is it: http://vt.realbiz360.com/Listing-243010.html), to see if I can acquire it with out to much hassle.
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SUBMISSIVE vs SLAVE
by F.R.R. Mallory
This distinction appears muddled, misunderstood and generalized by a great number of the people that I converse with. First I would like to make a point. Language at it's best shifts from area to area. Within this one continent we have many variations or dialects of usage. This can be seen in terms like sweeper meaning vacuum cleaner etc. So, many words used within a community can mean different things to different people based on the 'age' of the person, their background and the common usage of the area they live in.
The submissive is a volunteer.
The slave is not a volunteer.
This is the core and substantial difference between the two terms. Within the BDSM community this can be interpreted in this way. The submissive individual may be lightly, moderately or heavily submissive. The submissive has a desire to submit to the direction of another person which in this community we call the Dominant or Top. Their submission may be quite limited in range, for example, they may only want and desire to release their submission in a limited fashion, for short amounts of time and within tightly confined arena's. This type of submissive will generally carry a long list of rules, boundaries, limits, requirements etc. which they require the Dominant to agree to prior to engaging their submissive aspect within the relationship. Other submissives will have a more moderate (this is the largest group) approach, a stronger desire to submit for longer periods of time with fewer restrictions, limitations and requirements. A small percentage of submissives will be heavily submissive. They desire and look for a full time partner to live with on a full time basis. Their nature is to seek to express their submission as often as possible with the fewest restrictions upon their chosen Dominant as possible. Generally their list of limitations, rules and requirements may be verbal, short and flexible.
Additionally there is the person that calls themselves submissive who prefers to seek out only casual contacts. This person is willing to submit only so far as to address their personal needs. Their orientation toward 'serving' the other person is almost nonexistent. They will have a list of personal needs and requirements and in large part do not care who fills them. These persons tend to be called the "DO ME" subs. In my opinion they are not submissives at all, not having the basic criteria of a 'desire to serve for the pleasure of another' that is the fundamental trait I identify as submissive and Dominant. For me personally, the 'do me sub' in my eyes is a vanilla person with a kink fetish desire.
There is one other category that needs to be mentioned here. This is the terminology of bottom and masochist. In general terms a bottom is not necessarily submissive but a person who enjoys scening from the bottom position. This bottom may or may not consider themselves to be a submissive, many consider themselves to be neither submissive nor Dominant but more accurately a switch. You will note that I do not consider a bottom to be a 'do me sub', their attitude, orientation and motivation are distinctly different. In my opinion they are usually very open and honest about the submissive aspect and by virtue of that fall into their own category. I have scened with many bottoms and found them to be excellent for demo's, workshops and to help out or assist where multiple persons are useful for the fulfillment of a scene. The masochist also plays in here, a masochist is a person that enjoys pain being inflicted upon them. They do not need to be submissive at all, (similar to a bottom). However, many submissives are strongly masochistic. The masochist also is sometimes called a 'pain slut', they generally are most similar to a bottom in clarifying their distinctions from the label or identification of submissive. This form of honesty is what in my opinion makes both of these choices valid.
The SLAVE ~
The slave is beyond the last level of the submissive. The slave vacates limits. To be a slave is to offer of self fully and without reservation. From my perspective very few individuals fall into this category. Those that do, that I know personally are generally with their Dominant for a very long period of time. Trust has been long ago established, limits and range discovered and a relationship of personal strength has emerged which allows the submissive to transcend to this level. This is a level without safewords, without limits. The slave lives with their Dominant on a full time basis and may or may not have a life external of serving their mate. The slave generally selects a Dominant with parallel limits. By this I mean that the final action of trust is the vacating of set limits. In order to do this the individual must fundamentally know that their partner shares the same 'natural' or 'inviolate' limits as they do. A Dominant has limits just like a submissive. That which falls within their natural range and desire is their arena.
Many people use the term 'slave' interchangeably with submissive. I myself enjoy calling my sub's 'slaves' because it thrills them. However, I know in truth that they are not slaves, they fall within the field of the submissive. A submissive without choice (limit's - safewords) becomes a slave. They have passed that final threshold of personal trust.
One final thing to really confuse things. I have a category which I call the 'Authentic Submissive', I also call these persons 'full out or true Submissives'. This is the submissive who is auto responsive. When in top space they can and may appear to be at any level of the submissive listed above. Upon entering sub-space they lose the ability to do anything but obey. This is an automatic response. They are unable to control the response. It has been my lifelong opinion that these submissives are the 'natural slaves', they have a capacity and range far exceeding the non-auto-responsive submissive. By the way, when I find one of these quite rare authentic submissives, I am instinctively very protective of them. They are the most vulnerable members of this community.
Ok, to address a few more misconceptions. There is sometimes rampant discussion on the who is real question. Any person who states that they are submissive, switch or Dominant should be taken at their word until through action, word or deed they demonstrate otherwise. Respect is not given by virtue of having any aspect but is earned or inspired by consistent action, word or deed. The amount, number, placement, design of brandings, piercings, tattoo's etc. can but do not necessarily identify any individual by virtue of in community status. These ornamentation's are used across the entirety of the community and can be seen upon any individual regardless of Dominant or submissive status.
The easiest way to discover a person's placement within the community, be it through gender, sexual orientation, top, bottom, sideways etc... is to politely ask them. You can simply say, "What way would you prefer to be addressed?" This offers the individual the choice to tell you what they prefer so that you will not appear discourteous. By the way...courtesy is the key. You are not required to respect any unknown person. You are required to use common courtesy. Additionally, there is no right or wrong to being or believing yourself to be anything. It is not better to be one thing or the other and people should not be discriminated against for those choices they make. I offer common respect to all persons until and unless they take an action that I find disrespectful. At that point I generally elect to have no further converse with them.
One final note. There is what is loosely called a 'submissive network'. This network is a system which has existed probably since the origination of the SSC credo (safe, sane and consensual), wherein submissives within a community share information. This becomes important if you are a new person. A Dominant is only as good as the reputation they maintain within their local community. There are persons within this community who use the label Dominant, Top and even Sadist to cover their activities of non-consensual abuse. If you encounter someone who is abusive or breaks the SSC credo. Identify them in their local community. This is in real life. If you are a Dominant and you encounter a submissive who is unbalanced (mentally), by this I mean erratic, violent, abusive...share this information as neutrally as possible with the other Dominant's in your locale who may encounter this submissive. There are some persons who call themselves submissive who will turn after a scene and accuse the Dominant of abuse. Generally they have not dealt with prior, long term or life long experiences with abuse. You are not required to medically diagnose, just be open and honest. Submissives also live by their local reputation. When encountering or beginning a new relationship be honest about any occurrences which may reflect poorly on your reputation. Establishment of trust requires this. A Dominant may be accused of abuse and a submissive accused of being cracked or insane without substantiation. Imput the information and take the time to get to know the individual before making a judgment! |
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Victorian Domestic Servant Hierarchy and Wage Scale A chart showing the hierarchy of British domestic servants in a large manor in 1890, the wages servants would make back then and corrected for inflation to today's values.
During the 1990s and early 2000s Hollywood and Britain released several successful movies about life in the 1800s. Public interest in these films prompted BBC to produce made for TV reality shows showing what life was like during this era, notably The 1900 House and The Manor House. These shows got me wondering about the hierarchy of British domestic servants at the turn of the last century and how much they earned. This webpage is a condensation of what I learned from several written and Internet sources (notably: Daily Life in Victorian England by Christopher Hibbert, The Victorian Household by Marion Lochead and the website Victorian Servants at www.ourwardfamily.com/victorian_servants.htm as well as material gleaned from a dozen other lesser sites.
The chart that follows shows the hierarchy of the servants of a major manor house in 1890. Such an estate would consist of a family headed by a gentleman of titled nobility, such as a duke, or an extremely wealthy business man, such as the president of Lloyds of London or the Bank of England. Men of this level would have incomes of at least 10,000 pounds sterling a year, equivalent today after adjusting for the 1890 exchange rate of $4.87 US dollars per pound and a century of inflation to $1,200,000 per year. If this amount seems too small to support at large household of servants (around 1890 the Duke of Westminster had a staff of 50 indoor and another 50 outdoor servants) it has to be acknowledged that the disparity between the rich and the poor was much greater then than now. The average servant earned a mere 25 pounds a year or $2,700 in today's economy. Cheap labor is what made large staffs possible.
It was impossible to categorize every type of servant at the turn of the century. Many great houses had specialty niches into which they placed a servant that might not fit in any other house. While the basic structure of the servant hierarchy was similar from house to house, the complexity of the great houses was such that a one-size-fits-all approach was not possible. The following chart focuses only on the principle servants.
Two salaries are listed for each position. The first is what the position paid in 1890 pounds, the second is what that salary would equal today after adjusting for the 1890 exchange rate and inflation to 2005. These values are based on the averages cited in several different references and should only be considered as approximations. Individual salaries varied significantly depending on the servant's appearance, attitude, capabilities and the size of the house in which they worked.
Domestic Servant Hierarchy
Upper Staff
Butler
The highest ranking official servant. Responsible for running
the house. Forty to 60 pounds ($4,300-$6,400) per year.
He also received considerable "gratuity" money from venders
selling goods to maintain the house. In smaller estates the
butler assumed the house steward's responsibilities.
Housekeeper
Responsible for the female staff and maintaining the house's furnishings.
Her salary was usually 5 to 10 pounds less than the butler's
($3,700-$5,400) per year.
Cook or Chef
In charge of the kitchen staff and responsible for preparing
the family's meals. (An under cook would prepare meals for him
and the staff.) Because food quality was an important method
for impressing guests, chefs often earned more than butlers even
though they ranked below them. A cook for a modest house might only
make 30 pounds ($3,200) a year while a famous chef for a royal family
might earn as much as 300 ($32,000.)
Lady's Maid and Valet
Their main job was to be a private servant for the Lady or Master
of the house: assisting them with dressing, caring for their cloths, being a
general companion and even performing secretarial duties. They were hired
by the Lady and Master of the house rather than by the butler, housekeeper
or house steward. Typical salaries were 20-30 pounds ($2,100-3,200) per year.
Lower Staff
First Footman
Next in line to replace the butler. His main job was to be tall, handsome
and represent the estate's grandeur. He accompanied the lady of the house
on shopping expeditions, served the family meals and assisted the butler
in his duties. Oddly, his responsibility did not include heavy work such
as carrying coal or water. These were left the the female staff. His salary
was around 30 pounds ($3,200) a year. Many footman's salaries were
based one how tall they were rather than how well they did their work.
The taller and more impressive they were the more they received. Their
income was supplemented by 5-15 pounds ($500-$1,500) a year in tips
and other gifts from lady of the house.
Footman
Additional male staff for opening doors, waiting at table,
assisting gentleman or accompanying ladies as needed.
Twenty pounds ($2,100) per year.
Chamber Maids
Responsible for cleaning bedrooms. Twenty pounds ($2,100) per year.
I imagine they were slightly higher than parlour maids because chamber
maids were in more intimate contact with the family, or at least the
remnants of their presence.
Parlour Maids
Responsible for cleaning and maintaining the sitting rooms, drawing rooms,
etc. of the house. Twenty pounds ($2,100) per year.
House Maid
General purpose worker. Sixteen pounds ($1,700) a year
Between Maid
Worked in either the house or the kitchen as needed.
Fifteen pounds ($1,600) a year.
Nurse
Responsible for raising the babies and young children of the house.
Ten to 15 pounds ($1,100-$1,600) per year depending on
age and ability.
Kitchen Maid
Assists in kitchen work. Fifteen pounds ($1,600) a year.
Scullery Maid
Dish washer. Thirteen pounds ($1,300) per year
Laundry Maid
Washing and ironing. Thirteen pounds ($1,300) a year.
Page or Tea Boy
Apprentice footman. Eight to 16 pounds
($860-$1,700) per year depending on age, height, appearance and abilities.
Head Gardener
Like the head groom the head gardener was management and
therefor upper staff, yet his position outside the house prohibited
him from occupying a position in the house's upper
servant's. Also like the stable master his position of authority
had its compensations. Because a grand estate's grounds were
as important to impressing guests as the chef's skill, the head
gardener could earn a very high wage, as much as 120 pounds
($12,800) per year.
Grounds Keepers
The general laborers under the head gardener. They'd do everything
from planting trees to cutting grass. Eight to 16 pounds ($850-
$1,700) per year depending on age and ability.
Now I am looking to do the same for those who wish to live as My slave(s), male or female,
makes no difference to Me, but just remember I anm not gay or Bi, so dont try..!
Many jobs may be doubled up and so will the compensation be higher (but maybe not doubled)
I seek those who have additional skill and or talents (computer, music, singing, dancing, fetish and adult work.)
The trade is you"ll live here: http://www.exsitementgraphics.com/markpolaski/williambroadheadmansion/slides/DSC05472.html |
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So you want to be a slave?
If you want to be a slave, If you want to be enslaved, You must show him your inner strength as well as your unquestioning trust. If you wish be found pleasing to him, you must struggle to please him and not yourself. If you wish to devote your life to him, you must learn that your role is not as his peer. If you would consider yourself his, are you prepared to be slave even when its not easy or fun? If you call yourself slave, will you obey even in fury or tears? Do you eliminate the "If"s from your vocabulary, and realize that slavery is not conditional?
A slave gives from the heart, she doesn't consider it a "gift" Its not all wrapped up in rainbows and pink ribbons, Its bound in determined sacrifice and decorated with her tears of pain, effort, and bliss Its the sheerest, most primitive, raw _expression of self she can give She gives only what is left, after the pride and defenses crumble and she is left exposed to his eyes
She gives herself, because she could not imagine not giving to him. She is bound by own need, as strongly than the steel around her neck. You have no right to expect to be respected, to expect love in 'return' for your slavery. You have nothing to expect, except that he will do as he pleases. You have no right to censor your slavery, or your thoughts or deeds.
Are you ready to be treated as a slave? Are you ready to put someone's happiness above your own? Do you put aside your own desires and accept that they will only be fulfilled if he chooses to do so? Are you ready to strive always to please, and to not grow lazy and ride on past successes? Do you have the ability to lose your selfishness, your sense of looking after yourself first? Can you leave your pride behind? Consent is given once, when the collar is begged. For a slave, there is no limits or conditions on consent. Everything is given then, in that one moment, when a girl crawls to beg for ownership, regardless of whether it is denied or not.
Consent doesn't involve negotiating, a power you gave up the moment you felt his ownership. You have no power once you surrender all. Never give what is most sacred to you, if you cannot trust this person with your life. Never forget, it's not about you anymore. Never lose sight that it is a privilege to be owned, and a huge responsibility to those who own you.
Never forget to be grateful if someone does take on you as a possession. Can you be truly, hopelessly, absolutely owned? Are you worth being owned? Only he knows. Ownership is not taken lightly by either side. And if you impose limits on the Master you claim to be owned by... You only own yourself.
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It seems to me that most of the girls on here are fake and it is boring to find at!!!
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I need an unbiased opinion! (an email to Me)
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From:(Omitted)
To: Master Liam Lockran
Date: Jul 1, 2009 10:33 AM
Subject: Good morning!
Hello Master Liam:
First....i'm sorry to see that Your mood on Your profile here is one of annoyance. I have ninja squirrels on retainer if You want someone taken care of..jus sayin...LOL (i'm a goofball by the way)
I know You don't know me and that You are bombarded by smitten subs, fans and haters. I am none of the above. I do however recognize a knowledgable, talented and passionate person when i see one. Let's face it, Your name is synonomous with anything having to do with BDSM, at least in my opinion.
I need an unbiased opinion and frankly - help! I have friends within the community but their advice is not without hidden agendas so i can't turn to them right now.
I am submissive. I have been serving as an owned sub for the past year. He has changed the rules on me more times than i can count and i just roll with it. However, now i come to the point where i feel i have been purposely misled.
I recently found out that He pimped out a whore - she came to me and told me. He confirmed it and simply said He didn't want to involve me. But when the drama (her confronting me with it)is dropped at my door and i am not prepared to deal with it - well, guess what, i'm involved now. Additionally, He has changed things and made it clear that He will fuck others without me, have keys to their homes for later use, orchestrate and particiapate in gang bangs, etc...all without my knowledge and presence.
D/s is pretty much one-sided as far as "service" goes but there has to be a balance, right? Respect? I am still fairly new to all of this and somewhat naive.
Monogamy is such a hot button within BDSM it seems. My question is this...is what He did a common thing among Dominants and Masters?
Please forgive the verbal spewing - I am not eloquent today. Also, if this isn't Your thing (giving advice) i SINCERELY apologize.
Thank You in advance for Your time.
Respectfully
(Omitted)
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From: Master Liam Lockran
To: (Omitted)
Date: Jul 1, 2009 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: Good morning!
This "is" a very grey area of the BD & SM scene, if not in any type of relationship.
In Guy Baldwan's book "slavecraft", he talks about Transperancy and how important it is a D/s relationship.
Even though it is from the side of the slave, I feel it could be applied in part to both sides. But in true D/s relationships, the master is allowed to change the order of things as He sees fit, for to bind the master to His words and then to use them against Him later, actually enslaves Him.
I know this is confusing and it takes a little of sitting down and thinking about that what I just wrote. But it is true. Cause; "When promises become expectations, they are just pre-meditated resentments in the making." So how do W/we break away from all this and get to the real meat of it...
Trust, Honor and Respect. These are gifts W/we give each other first, foremost and always, as with any type relationship. It seems to be truer within the Leather and hetero SM community than anywhere else I have witnessed over the past 50 some odd years I have been alive. So do W/we have that with our Master? Trust? Honor? Respect?
I live within a poly household and share My sexuality with many others as well, but there are no secrets no deceptions or lies. Even if I am not in there presence and have pleasurable encounters with someone else privately, this acceptable because W/we share full disclosure. But this was all known in the beginning and discussed then excepted, on both sides!
I am always looked at and like you mentioned, both with a positive and negative light on Me, but I stand strong to My values. I am no saint and have a sordid past but I do stay steady to My actions, words and deeds, for this is what I am judged on. Aren't W/we all?
So (omitted), what characteristics are you looking for in this D/s relationship? A collar on, collar off, when conveniently it applies? Is serving as a slave really apart of your sexuality and a necessary aspect of your life? Or are W/we seeing a vanilla aspect underneath and just want it to be more play than reality?
Don't get Me wrong or think I am being harsh, I come from the Top and also spent much time serving under a few Masters and mentors (still do in some ways). But My heart, My sexuality is about being a Dom and the control and guidance of those who serve Me.
The fantasy world of Gorean play and/or Fetish/BD & SM, (whatever) worlds are just that, fantasy, whether W/we choose to live it full time or just at parties, the internet or on the weekend. "BD & SM lifestyle is about one thing and one thing only first, "SEX". I don't always mean the actual act of intercourse but sexual in nature and therefore the sexual exploration of ourselves and others around U/us, a perpetual forplay and a freedom to move about in a fantasy, sexually charged 24/7, that can be bliss! But can also to some, be torture and an unacceptable type of behavior, for those, perhaps this type of sexual exploration isn't for them (you).
"Pain is Mandatory, suffering is optional".
If he is your Master/boyfriend and you have lost trust, faith and respect for Him, and that the agreement of you relationship is to hard to handle or has been broken in your contract, then leave, but first try and be open (transparent) with Him and your feelings. It is your responsibility as well.
In all My ranting I totally for got to respond to the main question, Whether it is normal or not within our scene to pimps out girls. I say this too is hard because there are those that like the idea of forced prostitution and therefore this to may be part of His or her kink as well... I have slaves/subs that shoot on a regular basis for film and photo and get payed! They then in turn sometimes show tribute back to Me in the form of gifts (I like gifts)... All is good if all is out in the open. But relationship are not subject to consistency, the only thing that is consistent "is" change. So you need to ask yourself. Do I need a change?
I'm not sure I helped and may have praddled on a bit too long to get to this point.
Good Luck
Liam
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From: (omitted)
To: Master Liam Lockran
Date: Jul 1, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Good morning!
Master Liam - THANK YOU!
You provided honesty through the conviction of Your words and i appreciate that very much.
I absolutely love what You said about "expectations". We all have them even without the "promises".
Over time, i saw that He was not consistent..playing the role of Master as it suited His mood. Never following through on punishments is but one example of this. I would have to say that i am losing my respect for Him and it is impeding my ability to serve.
In our first meeting He stated that there would be "other girls". I took this to mean that we would engage in group sex. There were no other specifics given and i failed to ask the appropriate questions apparently. Now that i am finding out about His "other" interests i am faced with the decision to accept it or ask for release.
You did not come across as harsh at all. I have nothing but respect for anyone who stays true to themselves and is completely honest about what they want and go about it with a sense of pride and integrity. Not by lying, manipulation or deceipt. Both the one i serve and myself are guilty of this to some degree.
I take my role very seriously- sometimes to intensely. lol This isn't a story of a nice nilla girl playing on the wrong side of the tracks. This is about self exploration and my sexuality. Servitude makes me happy. Being Dominated mentally and physically makes me...it's what i crave - all the time.
You have helped me a GREAT deal. Thank You for Your time and Your insights. If one stops learning, growing, changing...well - it means your dead, right?!!
Sincerely,
(Omitted)
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Seeking part time slave/subs. Read Me first!
I am a gentle, stern and demanding Master with almost 20 years in the lifestyle and over 13 years of experience training and owning female slaves. While ideally as Master of my taste, I do have and own two, 24/7 live-in slavegirls.
24/7 type of relationships are very difficult for many girls to consider, particularly in the initial stages of a Master/slave relationship. Because of this, I believe it is far more practical to open Myself to accepting applications from girls who have a desire to learn to become true part-time slavegirls.
Being My "part-time" slave means (after meeting several times in a vanilla setting first, no doubt) you will sign and agree to adhere to a "schedule of servitude" with Me, where you will agree to surrender yourself for training to Me in My home at pre-appointed times for pre-appointed durations set by Me in advance ( usually 3-6 months as a consideration period).
This scheduled servitude will allow you to maintain your false vanilla persona anytime you are not here, but when, at the appointed time that you arrive at My home to serve, you must accept that during that time you are there, you are there for Me to train and use as I see fit. Let Me be very clear about this, as this is non-negotiable. This means that for the period of time when you agree to be in My home being trained by Me, you shall be My property to do with as I choose.
I am the Master, and you are the slave - the delineation could not be more clearly defined. I am NOT looking for a submissive girlfriend who wants a vanilla-side to the relationship after some kinky play, or someone to go shopping or go to the movies with, as that sort of thing will NOT happen if you are lucky enough to serve Me.
If all that your precious time allows you to be is a part-time slave, then the "part" of the "time" you are with Me will be 100% training and sexual-servitude oriented, are we clear?
I do not play games and I take My role as a Master very seriously. I seek a girl who has always secretly desired to become an owned slut-slave, because when with Me that is how you will be treated and used.
I do not wish to waste time with bratty sluts who will put up a fight over every little thing I demand, but rather I seek a truly submissive girl who knows she needs to be rigidly schooled in the art of becoming a total and complete slut-slave, learning to pleasure Me in any way that I desire, doing whatever I desire. I expect any girl serving Me to willingly submit to all the various methods of humiliation that you "WILL" be subjected to, and I will train you to revel in this feeling of degradation and shame as I use you, a very important part of becoming a true slavegirl.
My experience and wealth of knowledge gained over the years as a Master, coupled with my wide variety of tastes and kinks, allows Me the leeway to adjust my initial training techniques depending on any previous submissive experience you may have, as well as your level of shyness, your ability to learn and take direction, and your initial "dislikes" may even be taken into consideration in the early stages of your training as well.
Each slave is different, and I have learned from hard experience that each needs to be trained according to their unique personality profile. The final goal however for any slave serving Me is to be trained to be a completely obedient, totally uninhibited little slut for Me, and I will assure you now that if you have the true desire to learn to serve and are willing to put in the effort, I will make you experience everything you have ever fantasized about and far more.
No jokes, no games, just total, complete, and real servitude as My slavegirl. Over the years, I have built several very close bonds with several like-minded Dom/Dommes living in the US as well as around the world, and though I do chat and meet with them occasionally when we have a private party or at some other type of event, we are otherwise entirely non discreet about our lifestyles and expect you to be the same (when the time is appropriate).
I am in the public scene and so, very well known for My style and type of play, both public and private, and so are My friends, so do not expect Me to led you around in leather on a leash, make you famous or get you gigs... I will not tolerate this and you will be dismissed.
My time is valuable, and I will not waste our limited training time on such things. That time can be far better spent with you practicing a practical skill like sucking cock, licking pussy or learning to beg properly. Understood?
I hope you have read this introduction carefully and you understand what it is I seek. Only those who are very serious about their desires for enslavement should bother applying, as I will weed the fakers out in short order. First impressions are everything, so please, no one liners if you want to have a hope of being taken seriously.
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I guess I haven't anything in quite some time.
Ok, I seek only those who wish to be with Me. That is simple. Master Liam can be viewed at Myspace and manyblogs of how I am is written there. I have to be inspired to respond to anyone, so if you wish to speak to Me, make it interesting.
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So many e-mails it is some what overwhelming, I atually didn't expect anything. I want to thank everyone for all the interests in wanting to meet and play with me...some of you I will consider as I do love public performances and clubs so I will get to meet you in a public place..some of you came to my last preformance in Hollywood to just watch and then I was approached by you (not all) I only seem scarry at first but am really much a nice guy (But never mistake it for weakness).
I also am not used to writting in a jouranl in such a public way, so if things come out wrong...so what..LOL
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