I had a short conversation with some sub/slaves about the topic of f-self, or female self-bondage.  It was short cause I had a HUGE headache and could not think clearly.

There was some comments made by them that led me to believe that they feel that it is just a fantasy subject and their view was that they don't want to or will not do things to them selves cause it is the Dom/Masters job to do or force them to do those things.  True as it is, that it is enjoyable to do things to a s/s, be it commands or by hand while in person, distance commands and the outcome, in my opinion, can be quite enjoyable also.  More in a bit.

Another comment was that if she tied herself up, then she could get herself free and that would defeat the purpose of feeling helpless and the lose of control.  There are many ways to self-bind and not have the choice as to when you can get free.  There are many warning on the net and disclaimers on f-self stories about safety.  Plus the angle that self pain, be it clamps, plugs, or other means, is not as satisfying or brings no pleasure to them cause it is their hand doing it.  Understandable but there is more to it than just that.

For me, I see very little to no difference in the power exchange of it.  Be it that she is told to insert plugs, clamps, ect and tie/chain herself up to wait for me in a position or place that I have told her (self-bondage/pain/discomfort). Or to be at the door, kneeling/sitting/some postion, and dressed/undressed in a certain way, waiting for me to come through the door, cause that is how I want her to be and greet me.  Or the standing order of her daily chores that she is to do when I am not there. Ex: Clean house, laundry done, dishes/kitchen cleaned.

I would not be there to watch over her and force/make her do any of the things listed above.  But they are commands/orders that I have given her and expect her to follow.  For me there is no difference between me calling her up and telling her to self-bind/discomfort herself or calling her up and telling her to fix a specific menu for dinner.  Both are orders/commands from me to her and I would be displeased if she disobeyed either one of them.

I understand that some things are not everyones cup of tea.  And I can see how that could get put in the catagory of cyber.  The fuck-knockers and HNGs that never want to touch a girl, use rope on them, or spank them in real life use it for online cybersex only.  That way I can see a sub/slaves strong stance on not doing self-bondage/discomfort just cause a Dom tells them to.  That is not how I am talking about it.  I am talking about obeying the Dom that you have looked into His eyes and touched or been touch by Him.

This is just another one of my rambling thoughts.  I try to type it out to have some kind of even flow but my thoughts are fluid and can resemble river rapids.

I hate it when a sub/slave tries to think for me.  Unless you know me personally, you dont know what is in my mind or how I think.  The comment, "I like your profile, but..." tells me that the sub found one thing about me that they did not like.  Trust me, there will be many things about me that people dont like.

The reason for this rant is comments about my moniker.  Summed up:  I like your profile.  It is (insert what they liked about it here), but I dont think I am masochistic enough/enough of a pain slut for you.

And herein lies my frustation.  One thing, I am sadistic, not a Sadist.  There is more going on in the examples then what is just written.  I could explain each example here but I will not.  Second, no one knows to what level I am thinking/talking about, except for me and friends that understand me.  If you want to know/understand something, ask me.  Dont read my words and think you know/understand what I am typing.  I am not a literary scholar.  I dont rite good.  As I said in my profile, I am not one sided or enjoy things on a single level.

Enough for now.