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I have not been here for a few years. No real reason why I've been doing other things. I will be checking this from time to time.

Think for a moment about the saying you saw on my profile

before you opened it to read what I had to say.





Mental Binding



it is one of the most important parts of Ms and has absolutely nothing to do with sex.



It is an awareness, a sense of knowledge of knowing who you are and who you belong to. Mental Binding is the slow molding of ones mind to become better, more committed and very aware of the process of becoming an owned slave.



No it has nothing to do with brain washing. It has to do with a slave being aware at all times of the scheme of things. It is your owner putting His mark on your mind and sealing it for His domain.



You learn to serve before He speaks, you learn to please before He moves, you are so attuned to your slavery that things simply come natural to you without thought or balking at it. You simply Know you are truly property.



Doesnt mean you are stupid, it takes some type of brain cells to live this lifestyle of Ms and to accept the consensual conditioning of your mind to be Mentally Branded.



I know this comes as a shock to some but believe it or not Masters for the Most part Like Intelligent slaves. They would rather not have to tell you how to wipe your own ass. They prefer someone with substance otherwise how can one obey and be the best slave they can?



If you are mentally binded you dont have the me me me complex, you dont whine about things not being *fair*, you simply act and DO because you are aware of your Owner even while asleep. You learn to know every nuance about your Owner and simply accept what He offers you, you never Expect it.



It is not for everyone but I will say this, it is worth fighting for and being strong enough to embrace.







Bogus submissive s have only their own self-interest in mind they manipulate others and take advantage of them for their own agenda. They cause just as much emotional damage as bogus Masters. They are a sexual predator.







The dabblers who call themselves submissive usually have no idea what submission involves.

If you enjoy being restrained during sex you are not necessarily submissive.

If you are attracted to a strong-willed man you are not necessarily submissive.

If you wear a collar and know how to kneel you are not necessarily submissive.

If you always do what everyone tells you to do you are not necessarily submissive.

If you cooperate with a Master because you have no choice you are not necessarily a submissive.

If you allow a Master to do only what you want him to do you probably are not submissive.

If you tell a Master only what you think will get you laid you probably are not submissive.

If you think you could role play as submissive sometimes you probably are not submissive.

What are the differences between a bogus submissive and a genuine one? To me, the difference is a matter of character and nature. Some people play a submissive role. But some of you find that submission reveals your truest self, your deepest, most authentic nature. Submission isnt about what you do. Submission is aboutwho you are.

Does the idea of surrendering complete control of yourself to a trusted Master thrill you? Does the excitement increase the more you surrender? Are you turned on by the thought of permanently abandoning your will to his? If so, then you probably are a submissive.

On the other hand, if it fills you with dread and suspicion, you probably arenota submissive.

The acid test comes the first time the Master directs you to do something you really dont want to do. Many women are willing to play a submissive role temporarilyas long as she trusts that the Master will do exactly what she wants him to do to please her. There is nothing wrong with that. But it isnt submission, its just cooperation. True submission is complete surrender. Of course you want pleasure, and a good Master wants that for you. But TPE submission meanscompletely letting go of your own will,and trusting him,withoutsetting your own pleasure as a condition. For a true submissive,that very act of surrenderisthe pleasurethat intoxicating rush of letting go and giving yourself to him.

You may think it sounds passive and easy to surrender your will. Power exchange is far from easy. It is a conscious choice you must make, over and over again, that requires a great deal of courage and inner strength. Saying yes to him means that you must be strong enough to say no to everyone else, including yourself. True submission means having true power, and then giving it away. You must own your own power, before you can give it away.

You may be able to deceive him, to play along and make him think you are surrendering, while in reality you hold on to your own power. Thats why I mentioned character. You know if you are not being honest. And eventually it will come out. If you are willing to lie to your Master, that is a matter of character. If you know you arent a true submissive, if you basically just want him to be your lover on your own terms, and yet you play the part of a true submissiveyou are living a lie. You may in fact be a sexual predator. You risk causing emotional damage, whether you mean to or not.

If my deion of total submission doesnt appeal to you, there is no fault in it. Its not a bad thing to admit that you like to role play as a submissive occasionally, but that you are not really cut out to be an authentic, 247 T.P.E. submissive. I encourage you to enjoy dabbling in BDSM, and to take and give pleasure where you can.

But if you know this about yourself, do not try to hide it. If you are not a true submissive, do not try to pass yourself off as one.



nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit





There is no great genius without a tincture of madness





naturalia non sunt turpiaWhat is natural is not dirty





A Dominant is not defined by his slave. Simply put, a Dominant does not need you to be Dominant. A dominant male is defined by himself his honor and integrity are such that he would still be dominant with or without slaves. He has an inner strength, a force in his personality that cannot be denied and he does not need a slave to prove to himself and other men what he already knows in himself to be fact.





A slave feels desire with every fiber of herself to be so, she must feel it within the depths of herself, her heart and belly must burn with the desire to serve and be found pleasing. If a girl cannot feel these things, if they are not within her, she is only playing a game, and eventually she will be hurt by her game. There is nothing wrong with saying you cant. There is something wrong with pretending to be what you shall never be and knowing that you are only pretending.Author Unknown













3/14/2018 11:13:50 AM
The following was sent to me. If it was written by you or you know who wrote it let me know so I can give them credit.


Master is everything.

 

  It is difficult to prepare to be property.

The very nature of being owned is to be less yourself and how does one study to be less yourself? There is a way but it begins with having a working definition of the word property and what it means to be someones property.

 

 Property is different than submission or slavery. A submissive has free will and desire. A slave has given up free will but in theory can retain desire. They still are after all a living breathing person who has chosen to be in service to another person. Property has neither rights nor desires that are not filtered by its Owner. This sounds impossible but it is doable with a confident and capable Owner. Not easy. Not instant. But possible.

 

 Property strives to live in the moment as much as possible. Humans strive to self actualize, property strives to be less independent.  Thoughts of the future are all about being more pleasing for its Owner and things that will add to the enjoyment of its Owners life. It doesnt matter what other people think or feel about it. Owner is everything and the only opinions that matter are the ones that are shown to you by him. He is to be trusted with everything and a good Owner knows better than to put his property in danger, similar to a good father or pet owner. Property should be extremely grateful for being with a good Owner because bad Owners are extremely dangerous. Owners with the correct instincts for training are rare so if you meet one give him the praise he deserves.

 

  There are a few things that universally help be better property. The first is cultivating a mindful heart. A large part of your work as property will be spent learning to see things from new perspectives so the more open you are to this the better. It not only will make you more patient but also you can handle hard moments with more grace. Once you meet your Owner everything is about learning what he wants. The only personal goals you may have are the ones he allows. You must be ready to give up everything and anything. Attachments will get in your way so the fewer you have the better. Nothing and no one matters other than your Owner.

 

  Cultivate an understanding of your strengths and weaknesses to share with him. It would be ideal to go to your Owner as a clean slate but it is rarely possible. Baggage exists and there will be growing pains as you begin to prepare for your true life. The more you understand about what you are bringing to your Owner and the better you are at handling your own past when it arises, the easier it will be to get through those moments in your new life. Be careful of projecting past issues onto your Owner. This will work against you and just make life more difficult.

 

  Be very careful about learning anything from others that can not be unlearned. Each Owner has his own subjective truth that his slave will live by. Some of those ideas might not make any sense when thought of in relation to past relationships. Get used to that. It will happen a lot. ive truth doesn't matter. Only your Owner's truth. His car won't call him a liar and neither should you. His associations with words, activities and behaviors will be different. Your job is to learn how to see it his way and respond in his way. His reality is your reality.

 

  Once again, this is why a good Owner is to be valued so deeply. For those  born to be property being a slave or sub will never fill that need. 

9/16/2017 2:16:43 PM
I found this on line on humbledfemales.net
It gets down and honest and tells it like it is.
If you say you are a submissive female looking for a dominant man.
Take some time and give it a read. See what you think about it.

The Seven Steps
By Nina E.

female-women-steps of submission

Who This Is For

You sincerely wanted to be possessed by a man, not just by any man but by a strong, dominant man you could admire, respect, and even worship. So you ratcheted up your courage and approached such a man when he became visible to you, understanding that if you didn’t, you might never meet him—or anyone as good as him—as he’s likely not the type who chases women down. And, to your joy and gratification, he responded to you, he took your desire to get to know him and possibly serve him seriously. Now, while not “his” yet, you are beginning an exploration with him, or, as he puts it, you are “under his observation.”

So what happens next? You’ve won the prize, right? You’ve been accepted by the man of your dreams, you’ve done one of the hardest things in your life by approaching him first, and now all should be smooth sailing from here on end, particularly as he begins to realize, in turn, how much of a prize you are and how he wants and needs you. Well, maybe. In the heady rush of the start of a new relationship, many a submissive woman forgets that the hardest part is not over. She makes the fatal mistake of seeing this new relationship, perhaps with the first strong, dominant man she has ever encountered, as just like any other relationship: he’ll shortly fall in love with her beauty and purity or, at very least, become entranced with her feminine charms, while she just sits back and enjoys the romance, letting him drive.

What many a woman with submissive ideals who has become used to wrapping men around her little finger forgets is that a genuinely dominant man will expect a lot more from her than any other male she’s encountered. She hasn’t won anything at this early point in the relationship. In fact, she’s just begun a long and arduous climb up a hill of his making, a hill designed to test her mettle and determine whether she has what it takes to serve him truly and well.

This article talks a bit about the nature of climbing the hill of a strong man’s approval. It reviews the typical steps one must surmount in this climb, and also what might ultimately await both the truly devoted woman and the one who just imagines, out of vanity, that she is devoted, at each step up the path. Dominant men who are looking for information on how to judge the characters of submissive women might also find this article of use.

Who This is Not For

Every relationship is different, and some of us never encounter or even want to encounter a strict taskmaster, someone who we know will enforce our obedience. Some women want a softer, gentler, more loving man: someone who dotes upon her, builds her up, and praises her rather than one who demands a great deal, expects near-perfect obedience, and uses her primarily for his own benefit and pleasure. Many a submissive woman desires a daddy or at least a kindly “facilitator” to selflessly help her actualize herself far beyond what she could accomplish on her own: someone who will see her as far more than “merely” his female servant. If this describes you, that is fine, you should seek what it is you need, but this particular article probably isn’t for you, as the sort of man I will be describing in it is not the man you’re looking for.

But if you do have a craving to be completely controlled, owned like property, and used in whatever way a man might want to use you, you’re going to find that convincing such man that you have both a lasting desire for this extreme level of servitude and the ability to handle it is going to take some doing. To be quite frank, such a man has seen every type of female phony, every sort of cop-out and game, every possible demonstration of laziness, resentfulness, deceit, and pure feminine malevolence that exists, and he’s going to be quite hard to convince that you are not also of the same low quality of woman he has encountered in the past.

She should also consider that, unlike other relationships she may have had, she is the one who is going to be required to jump through hoops and “bow before awesomeness,” not him.
Paradoxically, men like this tend to be deeply attractive to the type of woman they abhor: an overly romantic, self-indulgent and utterly vain female who likes a “dark and mysterious” type because of how cool being with him makes her look. This sort of woman, however, instead of having a sincere desire to find out what such a man is really like, what he thinks and dreams, what he’s going to want from her, and whether she can serve him loyally and well, uses him as a prop in her “All About Me” drama. In her eyes, he’s just there to make her look and feel good. She projects her often self-serving and vain fantasies about her ideal romantic man onto a very inappropriate target and then becomes enraged or resentful when he doesn’t slot neatly into her leading man role; when he doesn’t fall madly in love with her in the time frame she thinks appropriate; when he doesn’t seem to care over much about her goals, passions, obsessions, or desires beyond where they enhance serving him; when he doesn’t do the typical guy things such as bringing her presents, initiating contact with her, liking her more than she likes him, ad nauseam. To garner the attention of such a man many a stubborn woman (despite being insulted by having to do this) pretends to be something very different from what she actually is: she pretends to prostrate herself at his doorstep and to be sincerely seeking to make him the center of her life. But he has ways of discovering such deceptions and, while I will talk about these methods later, the primary reason for doing so is to reassure those of you who are sincere that this slow, careful, methodical this is a biggie) that he be monogamous, devoted only to her and not free to see other women or take other slaves as he pleases. She may insist that he be of the same religious persuasion or political party as she is or that he not engage in activities she disapproves of or that he have a good job or be of a certain social class or have other superficial characteristics not directly related to his ability to dominate a female. She may insist he honor her list of “limitations:” things she absolutely will not do. Such a woman almost always ends up choosing a man weaker than herself (weaker because he is willing to capitulate to her demands) and then becomes deeply dissatisfied with her “sandy hill” male later on when she realizes she can pretty much walk all over him and shape him—with tears, tantrums, and temptations—to be whatever she desires. Think a moment, before you start climbing the hill of service to a man: is this really a man you can respect for the rest of your life? Is he really capable of resisting any attempts by you to control or manipulate him? If you assess this wrongly and you really need to serve, you may find yourself very frustrated later in life when you discover you’re the one running this show, and that you’re pulling his strings like a puppet.

Step One

Assuming your chosen hill is hard and rugged, imagine now a steep stairway carved into its side. You very much want to ascend this stair because the higher you go, the more intimate you become with him through getting to see and know who he really is. But at the moment, this goal (and he, himself) may seem a bit remote and distant as your raise your foot to climb the first step.

Due to numerous encounters with duplicitous women, a strong and dominant man will typically be looking at the latest female to bow before him rather cynically and critically, no matter what her actual qualities might be. No matter how polite and interested he seems in her, he is going to be secretly wondering what sort of flake has arrived at his doorstep, what she is lying about or carefully hiding from his view, what illusions about herself she’ll be trying to spin, and how she will try to turn the power tables on him. He’ll wonder all of this because that is what he is used to seeing from woman after woman after woman in his life. A devoted female servant’s first step up that steep hill of a strong male’s acceptance is to be mature enough recognize that initially he may be a little suspicious and to be gracious enough not to resent that fact. It’s important to realize that his careful scrutiny is not a reflection on your potential, necessarily, but rather an indication of the sort of woman he’s typically had to deal with during the time he’s spent searching for servants. Very rarely does such a man find a female who sincerely wants what she claims to want: to serve him above and beyond all other goals. Normally, the women he meets mouth these admirable sentiments but actually have any number of ulterior agendas in mind.

Should a woman become outraged that such a man doesn’t instantly see what a wonderful, glowing treasure she is, it typically means one of two things. One, perhaps her ego doesn’t have the right sort of hiking shoes on to be attempting this level of climb. This is the lesser of the two evils because it is something that might be fixed with time, education, and dedication to change on her part. Or two, perhaps she is exactly the sort of unreliable and possibly deranged individual that this sort of man runs into so often but tries his best to avoid. A lot of people drawn to extreme servitude are so attracted because they are incompetent or even crackpots and they’ve latched onto the idea that living in this seemingly harsh, romantic way is an escape from all the personal-life messes they’ve created over the years. Anything that seems extreme or exotic always seems to attract the mentally imbalanced, and dominant-submissive relationships are not exempt from this general rule of life. If you are for real, a man’s taking it slow is nothing to be outraged over. It’s a sign of his caution and good sense. It’s a strange and sad reflection on these “females are perfect” times that so many women are insulted when a man like this doesn’t welcome them fully into his life after a brief but passionate courtship stage in which he bows humbly before their awesomeness, but instead insists upon a careful, lengthy a man secretly seeking a conventional relationship with an exotic, cool surface appearance). And then it is likely she will become, after a few years, one of those bitter, screeching harridans who angrily insist on BDSM boards that a master-slave relationship is just like any other relationship and anyone who says otherwise is elitist scum! In her case, sadly, she’ll be absolutely right (at least about the “like any other relationship” part) because she and her male counterpart have copped out. Neither one really wanted anything as extreme as absolute servitude and obedience. But the sort of man I am speaking of does want this level of extremity and will politely, quickly, and firmly show such a female to the door if she starts trying to spin the relationship in the safe, warm, flattering, fuzzy-wuzzy terms and practices she is most comfortable with.

A feminine manipulator is in for a great disappointment with the type of man I am describing. He listens to her words, he nods, he agrees, he even praises her for the prettier ones, but when it comes down to determining what she actually is, he looks primarily at her actions to see how they accord with the pretty words.
Thus, in preparing to meet such a man, a sincere woman who’s fairly certain she wants to live as a complete servant to a man, should think carefully about this statement: “Enough time” to or at least be able to entertain the idea) that an experienced, successful dominant man is a beast of a very different color. If he’s an ordinary man, she might succeed at running rings around him like she has so many other men in the past. But if he’s an experienced and smart man, familiar with the means of human control and the conduits of power, and if he is looking for a genuine servant whom he can control fully, a woman attempting to outthink him will just wind up looking foolish if she makes the assumption that she can do so. If she is too proud of her own intellect to accept that a man worthy of owning her will be able to mentally outgun her, then she won’t know what hit her when her deceptive plans fall to pieces. Her ego won’t be able to admit the truth, despite the evidence of her senses, that she’s been totally outmaneuvered in this particular chess game.

A lot of women do this: they part ways with a man who has clearly seen what they are and told them the game is up, all the while refusing to admit to themselves that he’s seen right through them because, you know, no man is capable of seeing through them so clearly! Sometimes a woman like this will even come back to him and try her same old “believe what I say, not what I do” game all over again. He just might play along—perhaps because she’s useful in the moment or her dishonest antics amuse him—and she will never fully realize with what contempt he actually holds her in or how he is using her for entirely temporary pleasures. Such a woman may eventually begin to wonder why, however, she never seems to get anywhere with him.

The fourth step to avoid stumbling over at this phase in the climb is being vain enough to think that you’re too good to be extensively tested or whether to themselves, to him, or both) about this.

Step Five

For a woman who really wants to obey and serve a man, his own need for caution and taking things slow will make perfect sense to her: the female’s opinion of her own specialness won’t be so huge that it blinds her to his need to proceed gradually with any unknown human factor in order to determine if she can actually walk the walk. She’ll enthusiastically and willingly demonstrate her loyalty, willingness, subservient nature, and her deep interest in him, and she will automatically do so even if she believes the things demanded of her are almost too trivial or unimportant to bother with. This behavior represents Step 5, which has to do with understanding that every command, great or small, issued to her from his lips is a sacred and responsible trust: one that she must demonstrate that she can keep by performing it in the spirit and to the letter expected of her.

“This is nothing,” some foolish females think when faced with their first easy challenges or a very minor demand. “I don’t have to do this! I’ll prove my true value to him when he gives me something more worthwhile or interesting to do, something more on my level.” Believe it or not, many women new to submission do not realize that this attitude represents rank disobedience toward the man they claim to respect so deeply and is a good predictor of habitual lackluster “service” or even resistance should they ever be required to do larger things. They don’t grasp that the way a female proves herself worthy of great things is in how she performs the little, seemingly insignificant things. Having resentment for being tested at all (“He should just trust me! Can’t he see I’m sincere?”) or being insulted by the smallness of the test are both mistakes that an inexperienced and unaccommodating female with too large of a self-opinion typically makes. In contrast, a woman highly eager to serve will be content with cleaning the toilet or taking out the trash, if that’s all he’s assigned to her, as she understands that the fact that she’s being allowed to serve in the first place is what is important, not what specific service she happens to perform. And, while grateful if he pats her on the head and tells her what a good girl she’s been, she will not expect a reward or special treatment for her performance. When you are a servant, it’s your job to serve. Why should you expect constant kudos or special praise simply for doing what you said you’d do?

Normally, the master or otherwise dominant man will start with a relatively easy order. But a woman may come up with a thousand excuses for why she was late in doing it or why she didn’t do it at all. His requests may seem small, but in my observation, these little duties are more often failed or overlooked than any other, because the woman doesn’t take them seriously or doesn’t find them “interesting” enough. Finally, and this is a serious point to keep in mind, refusing to do the small things is one of those behaviors that tell a dominant man, without a question of a doubt, that he’s dealing with a serious level of flakiness in the female who has approached him. She’s not particularly concerned with his desires or welfare and this careless behavior, as mentioned before, is a very good predictor of her future actions and attitudes. It suggests that the woman is far to hung up on herself to think about another’s needs let alone to care that she is wasting her potential master’s time.

Step Five: Variations

“Tis many a slip twixt the cup and the lip,” goes the old saying, and while actually carrying out the order in the first place and within the time specified are two important concerns, there are other ways to obey incompletely or incorrectly. Some women, for instance, automatically assume that it’s up to them to dictate the “how” of their obedience. Let’s say the man she has approached orders, “Send me an email about your history and experience with other dominant men.” If she responds, “Sir, I’m far more comfortable with discussing this in person or over the phone,” she is disobeying his order. She’s indicating that she wants to dictate the terms of her obedience, that she wants to be in charge of how orders are carried out, despite the fact that he’s already indicated clearly to her his preferences in this area. This may well fly with a very lenient, laissez-faire “dom,” but it won’t be acceptable to the type of man I am talking about.

Another common error is to obey incompletely or in an entirely different manner than instructed. The male in charge may order his female to exercise, for instance, for 30 minutes a day, five days a week, and when asked how she did that week, she says, “Oh, I only got in four sessions, but that’s because I was super busy at work.” He may follow this up with “Well, why didn’t you mention that to me earlier in the week, when you got busy?” With a man who is serious about his dominance this question implies that, when under strict orders, unless it is a dire emergency, a good servant asks first before making course corrections or taking matters into her own hands, no matter how “necessary” those corrections may seem to her at the time. Assuming that she had the right to change his orders at her whim and without even discussing it with him first does not suggest she understands much about serving.

Another aspect of obedience that many men well worth serving pay close attention to is how well the female listens to the orders being given. It’s an unfortunate (and often hotly denied) fact of life that many women, even those with the best of intentions, have the attention spans of fleas. Such women have trouble concentrating on and really listening to a man’s words, and when they only half-listen, their imaginations later fill in the blanks with what they imagine he wanted, not what he actually told them to do. Usually this occurs because the woman is too busy thinking about herself, her own concerns or ideas, and allots only a small part of her attention span to what the man is actually saying. As a result, problems usually arise. She may throw his favorite sweater in the dryer when he told her to let it hang dry—and so it comes out unwearable because it has shrunk. She may neglect to stop by the store on the way home to pick up the cold cuts he wanted for dinner or bring home the wrong meat. Some so-called “submissive females” compound the initial transgression by becoming angry and resentful when such errors are pointed out to them: “They didn’t have smoked turkey at the store and I wasn’t about to go to the next grocery in this traffic so he should be glad he got any meat at all!” a woman new to service may mutter to herself, if not directly to his face. Or perhaps, if she isn’t living with him yet, she stops writing him the daily emails she is supposed to write every day without fail. And once it’s forgotten one time, it becomes much easier to let it slide the next time. After all, he hasn’t made any fuss about it, so he probably doesn’t notice or care…right? (Don’t bet on it.) Sometimes this forgetfulness has a cause: resentment or laziness, for example, but, even if there’s no cause, it still indicates a person who is neglectful of her man’s desires. She has not made his desires a high enough priority. In a woman with the right attitude, such things can be corrected, but in other females, the corrections only lead to worse misbehavior and resentment. Watching how a woman responds to being corrected will tell an observant man a lot about her core nature.

But how well you straddle the tall sixth step answers an even more important question: are you really in it for the long haul? Do you have what it takes to obey responsibly, dependably, cheerfully, and passionately over time, when things aren’t so “new and shiny” anymore?
While the above forms of disobedience may seem commonsense to avoid, no-brainers for those of us with experience or discipline in other areas, they are indications in a new servant of a lot of often-unconscious willfulness that will need to be brought into check before genuine service to the male can be performed. Reducing such willful tendencies is a job both for the female who desires to serve and the male who wants to be served—it isn’t something the female should (again, willfully) take upon herself entirely without asking him first how to proceed. Most women who say they want to serve, strangely enough, never even reach the stage of discussing refinements to their obedience. They become angered when a man scolds them for the first time or shows his displeasure at their failing to carry out his orders in the right way. They feel he is asking far too much. (Of course, it stings to be chastised firmly, but a woman who really wants to serve understands that this is part of the package. She sucks it up and strives to be better in the future.) This other sort of woman, the one outraged at being corrected, is not cut out to be deeply submissive, let alone a slave. She often doesn’t know this about herself, however and it may take her a long time to get the message, because her ego refuses to sign for it. She may flounce off in a rage, cool down, think about it and then come “crawling back” (in quotes because this is usually just an act that masks a deep, malevolent “I’ll make him fall in love with me and then I’ll show him!” resentment) asking for a second chance (or a third or a fourth) and, if he is a patient man, he may even give her those chances. But he is now definitely on his guard against her because typically her initial behavior is a clear indication that, no matter how many chances she is given in the future, she will never be able to obey him.

Step Six

Initially, carrying out orders is fun and thrilling for a female who wants to serve. It’s brand new, it’s cool, it feel so good when she succeeds and he praises her, and the assignments are often interesting ones. But how about later? Weeks later, months later? Is she still going to be obeying this intently and enthusiastically? Will she still be going to the gym every day or every other day, reducing her calories, keeping her house at the level of cleanliness he expects, and so on? A newcomer to service will almost always swear passionately that she will do all of this forever. But not all females have the follow-through to obey day after long day, particularly if the services become routine and unvarying. The earlier steps up the hill give a potential master or dominant man a general idea of whether or not she can obey and to what degree she obeys—at least during a single instance of obedience. But how well you straddle the tall sixth step answers an even more important question: are you really in it for the long haul? Do you have what it takes to obey responsibly, dependably, cheerfully, and passionately over time, when things aren’t so “new and shiny” anymore? The way a woman answers this frequently unspoken question with her behavior will tell the man she wishes to serve whether this is a serious vocation for her (something all potential servants swear is true at the beginning) or just a passing fancy, no matter what she claimed earlier. Obeying over the long haul, past the time when she considers it to be a fun game, really separates the dedicated servants from the bored kinky girls just passing their time with something new. There are many ways to perform service-over-time tests, and each man who understands their importance will devise his own. The dominant man who doesn’t perform such tests is taking a big risk, as females often do change over time, particularly as they become more comfortable with him and his ways. Being able to observe such changes in a female before she’s completely enmeshed in his life is very important. It could mean the difference between long-term happiness or misery for both parties.

Step Seven

At the lower elevations of the hill that a female may have to climb in order to be accepted into a man’s service, the general steps of obedience are fairly standard and follow each other logically. But the higher one goes on this hill, the more individualistic the steps get. They start to represent an individual man’s specific desires and goals for his servant. The final general step that most females face at this stage in their climb has to do with their level of dedication and passion. In climbing Step Seven, a woman asks herself, “After all I have experienced, do I still want to go through with this? Do I still want to serve and obey this man’s every desire, perhaps in very difficult ways, for the rest of my life? Is service to a deserving male the most important thing in my life or are there other goals that are equally pressing, other things I want to do or even must do before I die?”

There are many self-described dominant men and even self-titled “masters” out there who are a lot more lenient than the men I am describing. A more easygoing man may want his submissive female to grow and expand herself, achieving her own personal goals alongside serving him. But the sort of man I am speaking about here will absolutely demand that service to him be his female’s first priority. If she cannot put him and his desires above all other things, she won’t make the sort of deeply dedicated servant that he desires. A woman who needs various forms of self-fulfillment more than she needs to serve should seek the former out, perhaps alone, or perhaps with a different sort of man, and not expect that a strict dominant male with very high standards for obedience and service will be her personal growth coach.

The Top

The true satisfaction in service comes from the service itself, from the sacrifice it requires and from the love you feel toward the person whose life you are making easier and happier. To some of us, this is a glorious vista to behold and all the reward we could ever want. Other women, if they manage somehow by hook or by crook to reach this elevated height will look around and ask, “Is this all there is? Where’s my reward? Where’s my picnic at the top, my medal, my accolades, my permission to take it easy and enjoy myself from now on? Just what is in it for me?” I don’t think the second sort of woman reaches this rarefied height very often, as it requires tremendous sublimating of her true (selfish) nature to do so, but I have heard about other situations where women struggle hard, reach the top of the hill, are blissfully content for a while, but then later find out that they cannot deal with the consequences of their choice to serve a man completely, no matter what. They change or life confronts them with a challenge their deep love for service cannot accommodate. For example, what if the man that you served intimately in his home no longer wanted to live with you but desired you to keep working for him by generating income at a remote location while he moved a younger, prettier servant into his home? Could you, after so many years in his wonderful company, bear to part ways yet still remain his loyal, steadfast servant, financing his leisurely life with his new domestic slave? Those few for whom service is the true reward could because in that situation they’d still be serving him, still be making him happy, just in a different capacity.

Sometimes a change of heart in a woman comes about due to illness in one of the parties or some other serious life change that requires her to cope with frightening new circumstances. But at other times there is no shocking change. Sometimes a woman just grows restless, dissatisfied with her life. Service no longer seems like the ultimate reward it once was, the best thing to be doing in life, the most fulfilling role possible for a woman. She’s been there, done it, and now she’s bored. Or, to put it another way, she loses touch with the sacred thread and, like poor Icarus, starts to fall back to earth and its beguiling call. Something in her cannot remain dedicated to the course of service and she breaks away because she needs to “fulfill other aspects of herself.” I have seen this happen with several women who formerly lived as slaves. It is tragic to observe. With each person I have seen this happen to, she ended up far less happy than she would have been if she had stayed the course, selflessly serving another with no thought for her own “personal fulfillment.”

A lucky few do stay the course. We live a life of service to a strong man until we die because have tasted the endless pleasures, puzzles, and fascinations that life has to offer and found them all to have a bitter aftertaste, somewhat hollow, and lacking something essential. They didn’t contain the nutrition we needed, a certain flavor or quality was missing. Only intense, self-sacrificing personal service to someone we love gives us that taste of heaven that we so long for. And so we remain, unless ordered otherwise, atop the hill of abject servitude to a man. The view of the glorious, dark heavens around us, I must say, is most exhilarating.

7/9/2017 12:32:19 PM
If you are married or in a relationship and your needs are not being met.
I would suggest you not list as a slave.
You are clearly looking to get your needs met and you don't really care what the dominant wants as long as he follows your list of needs.
It is such a turn on for you to get fucked and be tied up and pretend you are enslaved when really all you are is a bored wife/gf needing a good fuck.
You have already made a commitment to another and yet you are here behind their back whoring around searching.
Not good slave material.
Good slut material.
7/9/2017 11:52:52 AM
“Giving someone complete submission, the power to destroy you and trusting them to not.”
author unknown
7/9/2017 11:43:15 AM

When you are a servant, it’s your job to serve. Why should you expect constant kudos or special praise simply for doing what you said you’d do?

Do you have what it takes to obey responsibly, dependably, cheerfully, and passionately over time, when things aren’t so “new and shiny” anymore?

Most women who say they want to serve, strangely enough, never even reach the stage of discussing refinements to their obedience. They become angered when a man scolds them for the first time or shows his displeasure at their failing to carry out his orders in the right way. They feel he is asking far too much. (Of course, it stings to be chastised firmly, but a woman who really wants to serve understands that this is part of the package.

This other sort of woman, the one outraged at being corrected, is not cut out to be deeply submissive, let alone a slave. She often doesn’t know this about herself, however and it may take her a long time to get the message, because her ego refuses to sign for it. She may flounce off in a rage, cool down, think about it and then come “crawling back” (in quotes because this is usually just an act that masks a deep, malevolent “I’ll make him fall in love with me and then I’ll show him!” resentment) asking for a second chance (or a third or a fourth) and, if he is a patient man, he may even give her those chances. But he is now definitely on his guard against her because typically her initial behavior is a clear indication that, no matter how many chances she is given in the future, she will never be able to obey him.

Carrying out orders is fun and thrilling for a female who wants to serve. It’s brand new, it’s cool, it feels so good when she succeeds and he praises her, and the assignments are often interesting ones. But how about later? Weeks later, months later?

Obeying over the long haul, past the time when she considers it to be a fun game, really separates the dedicated servants from the bored kinky girls just passing their time with something new.

 

Parts of a more detailed and very accurate writing from.

The Seven Steps
By Nina E.

8/24/2016 8:42:55 PM
The mindset. We see the word listed often.
But,what does it mean.
I could go on and on and paste some info from websters.
suffice to say. If a person does not have a submissive mindset to have the desire to serve another then we have vanilla with some kink on the side.

As we think more about a/the mindset we also have to look at the mindset of others and how they think about the slave.

A submissive/slave is thought of as being humble and humble only. However I think a slave can be both humble and confidant.
Why shouldn't she be confidant in who and what she is. After all it is a very high calling in my opinion.


7/30/2016 11:20:12 AM
They say nothing is really unique.

u·nique
yo͞oˈnēk/
adjective
adjective: unique
1.
being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else.


And here you are. Reading my post.Proving them "WRONG"
There will never be another one just like "YOU" on earth.
Why? Then are you always trying  to become a copy of others.
7/30/2016 11:09:56 AM
We can never be what others think we should be.Or even demand we should be.
Are you the type person that reads all of those posters of quotes you see on line.
Do you follow those as if they were a religion?

Maybe,and you may not have thought about it. What "IF" you created your own quotes to live by.

Here is my quote:

I'm not here to live your life for you.
I'm here to live "MINE"

If you enter "MY" life we will then create "OUR" life.
And live "OUR" Life together.
Designed for "US" by "US"and only "US"
6/22/2016 2:15:21 PM
From http://www.katekinsey.com/the-difference-between-a-slave-and-a-submissive.html

What is the Difference between a Submissive and a Slave? 

Well, if I had a dime for every time someone asked this, I’d be writing this on a laptop on a beach somewhere in the Caribbean. Lately I’ve resisted the urge to answer this question, because I know someone else will argue every conceivable explanation and I can put my time to better use on other more definable philosophical arguments, like how many chucks could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

But since people will still be asking this question (and I’ll still be unable to resist the compulsion to answer) when I’m 97 and senile, I might as well go ahead and write my “definitive” answer to this question now; that way it won’t matter if I go all soft in the brains department, I can just refer to my notes that say, “This is your opinion on such-and-such, remember?”

So what is the difference between a submissive and a slave?

I could begin by telling you what others might say, or have said:

  • A submissive is someone who negotiates; a slave does not
  • A submissive has limits; a slave has given up all limits except those which his/her owner sets for them.
  • A submissive obeys and serves by choosing to do so each time and retains her will. A slave initially makes a choice to obey his/her master/mistress at all times and then submits to the will of  his/her master at all times.
  • A submissive accepts submission, while a slave accepts obedience.
  • A submissive has retained some rights within the context of the D/s relationship, whereas a slave has given up all rights and becomes, in effect, property.
  • A submissive is owned, but a slave is possessed.
  • A slave is not allowed to sit on furniture or wear clothes, and always kneels at his/her owner’s feet.
  • A submissive has a safe-word to end play, while a slave has consented to no-consent.
  • A slave must be a submissive, but a submissive is not necessarily a slave.
  • Being a submissive is just a step on the way to the “ultimate” state of submission, which is being a slave.
  • A slave is more submissive than a “mere” submissive. Submissives are just playing; slaves live the lifestyle.
  • A submissive has more self-respect than a slave. Slaves are crazy, because who in their right mind would want to be a slave?

Yada yada yada. This is about the point where the fistfights and hair-pulling begin, and someone eventually is provoked to lob the ultimate holy hand-grenade of judgment: “You’re not a real submissive/slave!”

All of the above definitions are something I’ve actually heard people say, or read in various books or websites. Some of them are completely true for the way a particular person lives and functions and perceives themselves as either a slave or a submissive. Some of them are pure bullshit. But this gets me no closer to a final answer.

Maybe we might get further asking what a submissive and a slave have in common. Both have a deep need/desire to submit/surrender/give up at least some part of their will/control/power to a Dominant. They most often “need” this because pleasing and/or offering service to a Dominant who has earned their trust, their respect and (generally) their love, is an integral part of a submissive/slave’s fulfillment and satisfaction.

[Note: upon the first posting of this article, someone has already disagreed with this paragraph, on the grounds that they desire being controlled purely for the love of being controlled, not because they wish to please and/or serve.... so here i now add the caveat of saying, Okay a slave or submissive both need to give up some part of their control/power to a Dominant for whatever reason that motivates them. Fair enough? I think the ultimate point of this essay is that I am most assuredly not trying to limit or define or anyone in a negative way.]

So if we follow this “common ground” to its natural conclusion, then a submissive and a slave are really the same except for the extent to which they submit. A slave submits more of themselves (all of themselves?) to their owner.

Ah, but, what is “more”? “More” than who’s less? Just like that, we’re back in sticky territory once more because everyone wants to quantify and measure the degrees of submission (and even of mastery).

I visualize all of us on this great big sliding scale:  Dominants on one end, submissives on the other. On the far end of the dominant side are the masters and mistresses, whose personalities and needs to control compel them to take on the added responsibilities that come with “owning” either a slave or a submissive; further, their experience has earned them the right to that title.

On the other end would be those with submissive personalities, needs and desires. (I differentiate between “desire” and “need.” Desire, to me, is a luxurious word, a word of craving, as in a “desire for chocolate.” I’ve never heard anyone say that they desire food, but always they need food. A “need” is reserved for something you cannot do without. The more a submissive needs to submit (as opposed to merely desiring it), the further out on the slide they go. The more control they need to surrender, the closer they come to slavery.

I chose the phrasing of that last sentence quite deliberately: “the closer they come to slavery.” True slavery does not exist, and cannot exist in this country.

Even if an individual agrees in every imaginable way to “be” a slave, there is no court in the United States that recognizes slavery, consensual or otherwise, as a valid status. If that slave decides to stop being a slave, there is no legal means to force them to return to that state, even if they signed a dozen notarized documents and have their owner’s name branded on their ass. If leaving is an option, then is it really “slavery?” What we call slavery in the Lifestyle is a carefully crafted and maintained fantasy, even if it is fuelled and compelled by very real needs, and lived 24/7 in very extreme states of control and obedience.

[Sigh. And if you think i'm being overly sensitive or exaggerating the extent to which people will always -- and i mean ALWAYS -- find something to disagree with/argue about in any statement you make, no matter how broad and inclusive you try to make it, then let me also point out that already someone else has taken issue with the previous paragraph as well. Why? Because I said that slavery does not and cannot exist in this country. They sent me links to various articles about illegal immigrants who are kept in "slavery" for illegal wages, in illegal conditions under the threats of blackmail, violence and other criminal acts of fraud and deceit. I respectfully point out that while such things do exist, they are still illegal, and not sanctioned by the laws or government of this country. Jesus, talk about not seeing the forest for the fuckin' trees.... ]

The sliding scale theory works until you start trying to make marks to represent the “measure” of submission or dominance in an objective, rather than subjective, way. A yardstick works because somewhere, someone, once upon a time, decided that a certain amount of linear space is called an “inch” and everyone else agreed to adopt this objective unit of measure. But there is no comparable measure for our lifestyle – there is no inch, centimeter, foot or yard.

I once helped Sir work up a presentation for college class of social workers, trying to educate them on the basics of SM and kink, so that hopefully if they encountered it in the field, they would not freak and take someone’s children away from them. We tried using a linear scale to represent the “broad spectrum” of sexual expression.

On the Power Point slide, I used a sweet little picture of nun on one end marked “absolute celibacy.” On the other end, I placed a photo of a studly dude decked out in full leather and chains, brandishing a riding crop. Then, we began laying out the behaviors in between the two. After the nun, I put “masturbation,” followed by “heavy petting” and “oral sex,” then  “heterosexual-missionary-position-sex-with-the-lights-out.”

“But not everybody would put oral sex before typical intercourse,” Sir remarked. “Why did you put it there?”

“Bill Clinton,” I remarked dryly, thinking myself very witty. “I read somewhere that most teenagers today don’t even think a blow job is having sex.”

And it kept getting more and more problematic with every sexual activity or proclivity we added. Anal sex? Do you put that before or after “exploration of the entire Kama Sutra”?

I know some women into SM that can take being beaten bloody, but they WILL NOT do anal even with their husbands. And if you consider gay and lesbian orientations, then the placement of anal sex, oral sex, fisting and the use of dildos are going to be different than where a “normal” heterosexual might rank it. You can’t put “swinging” before SM — or vice versa — without either group howling in outrage if you imply either behavior is more “extreme” or “far out” than the other. (Many swingers think SMers are sick and twisted, while many in the Leather Lifestyle still hold monogamy as a gold standard for “decency.”)

In the end, we admitted that a linear chart of sexual behaviors couldn’t be anything but the broadest generalization, not to be taken literally, because the placement of each activity is potentially different for every single person in the world. What is “kinky” to one person is “normal” to another. It’s the same problem with my attempts (and everyone else’s) to make a scale for dominants and submissives.

You can generalize the end points of the scale, but there is no way to measure the degrees in between because every single person in the Lifestyle is measuring according to their own yardstick. One person’s inch is another person’s mile.

One submissive may find being naked in front of strangers is a huge amount of control to give up – for her. But another who considers himself slave may feel the nudity isn’t a big deal at all. Another “slave” may consider breath control a hard limit – no way, they will not do it! — while another “submissive” enjoys breath play and does it regularly. And while I personally can enjoy very brutal anal sex (without preparation or lube) even when I am only “bottoming,” another “slave” or “submissive” cannot and will not participate in that activity.

When I was a slave to my master – and that is what I considered myself and what he considered me, placing all my limits at his discretion — I accept polyamory and swinging, which some others who considered themselves slaves could not condone in their own relationships. And while I allowed him to control how I dressed, who I fucked, what toys he would use, even whether I would breathe or not, there was always one area that he never attempted to control, and I would have been really uncomfortable and unwilling to give up — that of my personal finances. Yet many slaves believe that you cannot be a “real” slave if you cannot give over complete control of all areas of your life, including your money.

But even in my vanilla relationships, including an eleven-year relationship where we owned a home together, we never even discussed a joint bank account. If you consider this one area of my life, there are a million married vanilla women who are more “slaves” than I have even been, or will ever be.

I mention these specifics to demonstrate how many variations and levels there are, not just in the Leather Lifestyle, but in life period. Every role in the SM community is eventually tailored, like a fine suit, to fit the individual as they grow, evolve, discover themselves and what works for them.

The identity of your partner will further tailor your particular suit. While your “suit” may look a lot like someone else’s, it will never fit anyone else in quite the same way. So why do we keep trying to pull roles “off the rack” for other people, sometimes even ourselves?

The minute you start trying to define what makes one person this and another that, you start comparing. When you compare two things that are not exactly same, you will always find one or the other lacking in some way.

But that “lack” only has meaning in the comparison to that other object. Every other thing in the world will be less or more, depending on what you compare it to. Apples and oranges, my friend — apples and oranges! You may like one better than the other, but that doesn’t make an orange any less “real” or valid a choice than the apple.

If you continually compare your life —your mind, your heart, your soul — with someone else’s, there will always be something that makes you feel less or more, somehow “lacking” or superior—  and in both cases, you are paying more attention to what someone is or isn’t, even yourself, than rejoicing in what you are.

With comparison comes judgment, which can only be based on a personal viewpoint. You cannot unplug yourself from what you know and feel and experience. Judgment is the first step towards prejudice, stereotypes and intolerance. All of which are antithecal to a lifestyle that is based on the need for personal expression and rejects being forced to conform to society’s view of “normality.” We all came here to be who and what we are, not what anyone else told us we should be.

In my journey, I was a “slave” because that was what I needed and wanted to be. That is what my master needed and wanted me to be. It was an ideal we were both striving for, not a definitive “thing” we would ever be able to achieve. Submission did not seem a strong enough word for us to contain all the needs and fantasies we both brought to our relationship. So we chose other words — Master and slave — that seemed to convey our goals more clearly.

Whether those words meant the same thing to anyone else was ultimately beside the point. Who should really care whether I, as “slave,” sat on the furniture or not? Kneeling or standing, my heart was the same. We were tailoring our leather skins to fit us, not anybody else. And why should we? Those skins were ours, and we would never ask anyone else to wear them.

In the end, my personal conclusion is simple. Submission is a personal journey, always fluid. Slavery, while “generally” the more extreme end of submission’s sliding scale, is more useful as an ideal some strive for. And it doesn’t really matter in the end. What is submission to you may not be submission for me. What is slavery for me may not be slavery to you. The only definitions that really matter in your life are your own, and the person(s) you serve.

We are, ultimately, the only ones who can decide who and what we are. I began this path to find me, not someone else. I departed from the vanilla norms because those skins did not fit me, not merely to find another set of standards to conform to.

So don’t worry about the difference between submissive and slave. It’s purely up to you and the One you submit to to decide. Stop poking about other people’s wardrobes and concentrate on constructing your own.

Choose the material that most appeals to you, the pattern that fits you best… then alter it, take a snip here and tuck there… let out a seam if it binds…embellish it with all the spangles and ribbons and colors of your fantasies.

And wear it with pride. It’s a one of a kind.
6/22/2016 10:35:09 AM
Do you enjoy good conversation.
If so. What is good conversation for you?
11/7/2014 11:29:14 PM
Expectations and desires.

What are your expectations?
What are your desires?

There has to be
the taking care of,and protection of. Trust and the knowing that she is safe secure that nothing will befall her while she is under his control and ownership.
Then she can be free to fully and completely submit.
A man will be surprised greatly surprised the woman that will emerge when she feels wanted/safe/secure/and she can trust him fully.

It is not easy for a woman to be a woman sometimes. Yes, they are strong and can handle whatever comes their way.
There are those moments that she will need what only her Dominant male can provide. An he may not have to say a word. His touch and his arms open for her will provide to her the one thing she needs most and no amount of money in the world can compare.







10/10/2014 6:29:37 PM
It is there just within reach. Or is it.
It should be that simple. But...it is not.

There are those that will do their best to keep you from ever finding the one you seek.
They will come in all shapes,colors and sizes.They will fill your in box with messages of hate,words of fear and all manner of negative ideas....
To chase you away. To force you to close your profile or worse delete it altogether.

If you are worth serving another then you are worth fighting for the right to do so.
Do not be fooled... your need for the other one you seek will never go away.It will only get stronger.

7/9/2014 6:06:12 PM
The one you need. Really need.
Will most likely not be the one you will choose.

Why?
It is called a comfort zone.

Most will choose one that they can in some little way control.It makes them feel that little light of safety.

However. They will not be fulfilled in any way with that person and will soon bore of them.
Bringing them right back to where they were. A never ending loop.
And right back here. Or sites like it.
11/3/2013 9:44:01 AM

The female.

Had “THE” Power. More power than they ever knew or realized they had.
That was a problem for some females.
The “SOME” females did not want every female to have”THE” Power.
The “SOME” females ONLY wanted females to have the powers they wanted them to have and not a bit more.
But, how do you control females that have “THE" Power.
Very good question.
There must be a way.
Females with “THE” Power had to be convinced they had “NO” Power at all.
That is where the greatest “LIE” of all time was created.
A lie so powerful that it struck fear in every female.
She was convinced she had "NO" power.

It was very clear that now “SOME” females had all the power over every female with "NO" Power.
It was not outside forces... it was not the evil of all evil the male that caused the female to have no power.

No not at all.
It was from within.”SOME” of their own kind. “SOME” they had been lead, convinced  to believe in and trust the most.
 
The fall always comes from within.

 

"SOME" females say that to be submissive and to be submissive to a man is wrong.

"SOME" females even write replies to females on sites like this telling them how wrong they are.

"SOME" females are afraid that the females with no power will wake up and know the truth for what it really is.

12/8/2012 9:58:51 PM

Submissiveness gives the illusion of security, protection & the adrenaline of fear, all in one healthy dose

Just what a woman needs to satisfy her need for expressed male brutality & savagery, without the need for actively engaging

A woman's reality is a transliteration of her biology

Submissiveness is a vital biological function, allowing women to experience their primal nature, in a civilized society

Submissiveness is a woman's primacy, a mans primacy is dominance

A successful relationship always tends on how raw & primal the dynamic nature of the relationship, enables them to experience the transliteration of their biology

Without the ability to experience the raw primacy of their biology, a relationship is doomed to say the least

Submissiveness & dominance, are the ultimate coping mechanisms for resolving our need for expressing our primal side, in a civilized society

Without primal-ism you don't have a relationship