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DaddyChess

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 DaddyChess

 Dominant Male

 NW 

 Indiana

 6' 0"

 253 lbs

 38

 Hetero

 Multicultural

 04/11/08

 

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Journal Entries:
10/8/2009 4:09:01 AM
For those that matter... I know it's been a bit and I've been on kind of a hiatus.  Trying to balance life in general, concidering closing this account...  But for now Here I am, looking forward to Christmas and even better, next spring.

7/16/2009 4:41:09 AM
Ok, who's ready for the next meeting??  Friday July 24th.  Same time, same place...


6/3/2009 9:56:41 AM
Hey all, just wanted to let everyone know the next meeting will be on Friday June 26th.  Dress casual as we will be hitting a local fair later in the evening.  Please RSVP by the 24th so we know you're coming. 

If you have any questions, let me know.

DC

4/13/2009 10:11:56 AM
Greetings fellow kinksters...

Just wanting to remind everyone of the munch coming up on the 25th!  Only 2 weeks away.  Drop me a line to let me know you're coming so I can reserve our spot.  See you soon.

DC

3/12/2009 6:39:08 AM

We had a great time at the last meeting. Even decided to go bowling after. Thank you to those of you who were able to show up.

Our next meeting is being set for April 25th. 7pm @ Kilroy's, as usual. Seems to be a good starting point. We are going to do a show and tell. Bring a "pervertable" and and be ready to share.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Please RSVP by April 22nd so we have an idea about how many people to expect. Thank you.

DC


2/28/2009 1:31:38 PM
Ladies and Gents, and those who aren't sure...

I need to take a head count for those that are planning on attending the next munch on March 7th.  Please respond by Thursday, March 5th.  Thank you.

DC

2/21/2009 5:59:33 PM

Guys n Dolls,

Due to the overwhelming requests, we will be pushing the next Whipped Kitten metting back one week to March 7th.  Sorry for the inconvience this may cause some of you.

DC


1/31/2009 8:25:53 PM
Woohooo!  My two oldest boys just got back from the state chess championships.  One took 59th in his division and the other took 8th in his!  (tie breakers suck sometimes)  Needless to say I am a very proud papa...

1/28/2009 12:37:20 PM
Wooohooo!  I just reached a rating of 1500! 

And thte game that did it for me... 
jmfpeaceable vs. daddychess(playing black)

1. e4  e5  2. Bc4  Nf6  3. Nc3  c6  4. Nf3 d5  5. exd5  cxd5  6. Bb5+  Bd7  7. 0-0  d4  8. Bxd7+  Qxd7  9. Ne2  Bd6  10. d3  Nc6  11. a3 e4  12.Nfxd4 Nxd4  13. Nxd4 Bc5  14. Nb3 b6  15. Re1 0-0  16. Nxc5 bxc5  17. Bf4 Rae8  18. c4 Qd4  19. Rb1 h5  20. Re3 exd3  21. Rxd3 Qxf4  22. b3 Ng4  23. f3 Qxh2+  24. Kf1 Qh1#

That is all I have to say about that

1/25/2009 6:58:31 AM

Thank you to all who were able to make it to the munch.  kitten and I had a blast getting to know you all a bit more.  It was also decided that we would meet again if next month.

The next munch will be on Saturday, Feb. 28th.  I look forward to meeting with all of you again and those who may be coming for the first time.

DC


1/22/2009 8:08:40 AM
Ok, so today on the radio they asked a couple of questions.  I found them and the answers given very amusing.  I want your opinion.

1.  Are divorced women easier?  You can answer yes or no, and give a reason.  "depends" is not an option.

2.  A woman wrote in and said that she was happily married, but was obbessed with another man.  She thought about him all the time.  She even gave special attention to her clothing when she knew she would see him in the office...

Have you ever felt this way and what did you do about it?  Did it just go away or did you have to actively do something to "fix" it?

1/17/2009 2:30:53 PM

Todorov

DaddyChess

I played against a guy who was rated 1547.  (I was rated 1412)  He resigned before  91. Ka3  R a1+ mate.

 

This is one of my favorite games.  Started on Dec. 31st, 2008 and ended Jan 17th, 2009.

1.

d4

Nf6

2.

e3

d5

3.

Bd3

Nc6

4.

c3

e6

5.

Nf3

Bd6

6.

O-O

Ng4

7.

Nbd2

O-O

8.

h3

Nf6

9.

c4

Nb4

10.

Bb1

c6

11.

a3

Na6

12.

e4

dxe4

13.

Nxe4

Nxe4

14.

Bxe4

f5

15.

Bc2

c5

16.

d5

b6

17.

Ng5

e5

18.

h4

e4

19.

Qh5

h6

20.

Nh3

Bd7

21.

Qg6

Be8

22.

Qe6+

Kh8

23.

Bxh6

Rf6

24.

Bg5

Rxe6

25.

Bxd8

Rh6

26.

Bg5

Rh7

27.

f3

Bg6

28.

f4

Bh5

29.

g3

Be2

30.

Rfe1

Bxc4

31.

Rad1

Nc7

32.

Nf2

Nxd5

33.

g4

Bxf4

34.

gxf5

Ne3

35.

Rxe3

Bxe3

36.

Bxe3

Rxh4

37.

Nxe4

Rg4+

38.

Kf2

Rf8

39.

Rh1+

Kg8

40.

Kf3

Rg6

41.

Ng5

Bd5+

42.

Kf4

Bxh1

43.

Kg4

Rh6

44.

Bb3+

Kh8

45.

Nf7+

Rxf7

46.

Bxh6

Re7

47.

Bd2

Re2

48.

Bc3

Rg2+

49.

Kh5

Kh7

50.

f6

gxf6

51.

Bxf6

Rh2+

52.

Kg5

Be4

53.

Be5

Rh1

54.

Kf4

Bc6

55.

Bc2+

Kg8

56.

Be4

Bxe4

57.

Kxe4

Rb1

58.

Kd5

Kf7

59.

Kc6

Ke6

60.

Bc3

c4

61.

Kb5

Kd5

62.

Ka6

Kc5

63.

Kxa7

Rd1

64.

Kb7

Rd7+

65.

Kc8

Kc6

66.

Be5

b5

67.

Bc3

Kd6

68.

Bb4+

Kc6

69.

Bc3

Rb7

70.

Bd4

b4

71.

axb4

Rxb4

72.

Bc3

Ra4

73.

Kd8

Ra1

74.

Ke7

Kb5

75.

Kd6

Rd1+

76.

Ke5

Ka4

77.

Ke4

Kb3

78.

Ke3

Kc2

79.

Bh8

Rd3+

80.

Ke2

Kb3

81.

Ke1

Kc2

82.

Ke2

Rh3

83.

Bd4

Kb3

84.

Kd1

Rh2

85.

Kc1

Rc2+

86.

Kb1

Rd2

87.

Be3

Rd1+

88.

Bc1

c3

89.

bxc3

Kxc3

90.

Ka2

Rxc1


1/17/2009 2:23:53 PM

Todorov

DaddyChess

I played against a guy who was rated 1547.  He resigned before  91. Ka3  R a1+ mate.

 

This is one of my favorite games.  Started on Dec. 31st, 2008 and ended Jan 17th, 2009.

1.

d4

Nf6

2.

e3

d5

3.

Bd3

Nc6

4.

c3

e6

5.

Nf3

Bd6

6.

O-O

Ng4

7.

Nbd2

O-O

8.

h3

Nf6

9.

c4

Nb4

10.

Bb1

c6

11.

a3

Na6

12.

e4

dxe4

13.

Nxe4

Nxe4

14.

Bxe4

f5

15.

Bc2

c5

16.

d5

b6

17.

Ng5

e5

18.

h4

e4

19.

Qh5

h6

20.

Nh3

Bd7

21.

Qg6

Be8

22.

Qe6+

Kh8

23.

Bxh6

Rf6

24.

Bg5

Rxe6

25.

Bxd8

Rh6

26.

Bg5

Rh7

27.

f3

Bg6

28.

f4

Bh5

29.

g3

Be2

30.

Rfe1

Bxc4

31.

Rad1

Nc7

32.

Nf2

Nxd5

33.

g4

Bxf4

34.

gxf5

Ne3

35.

Rxe3

Bxe3

36.

Bxe3

Rxh4

37.

Nxe4

Rg4+

38.

Kf2

Rf8

39.

Rh1+

Kg8

40.

Kf3

Rg6

41.

Ng5

Bd5+

42.

Kf4

Bxh1

43.

Kg4

Rh6

44.

Bb3+

Kh8

45.

Nf7+

Rxf7

46.

Bxh6

Re7

47.

Bd2

Re2

48.

Bc3

Rg2+

49.

Kh5

Kh7

50.

f6

gxf6

51.

Bxf6

Rh2+

52.

Kg5

Be4

53.

Be5

Rh1

54.

Kf4

Bc6

55.

Bc2+

Kg8

56.

Be4

Bxe4

57.

Kxe4

Rb1

58.

Kd5

Kf7

59.

Kc6

Ke6

60.

Bc3

c4

61.

Kb5

Kd5

62.

Ka6

Kc5

63.

Kxa7

Rd1

64.

Kb7

Rd7+

65.

Kc8

Kc6

66.

Be5

b5

67.

Bc3

Kd6

68.

Bb4+

Kc6

69.

Bc3

Rb7

70.

Bd4

b4

71.

axb4

Rxb4

72.

Bc3

Ra4

73.

Kd8

Ra1

74.

Ke7

Kb5

75.

Kd6

Rd1+

76.

Ke5

Ka4

77.

Ke4

Kb3

78.

Ke3

Kc2

79.

Bh8

Rd3+

80.

Ke2

Kb3

81.

Ke1

Kc2

82.

Ke2

Rh3

83.

Bd4

Kb3

84.

Kd1

Rh2

85.

Kc1

Rc2+

86.

Kb1

Rd2

87.

Be3

Rd1+

88.

Bc1

c3

89.

bxc3

Kxc3

90.

Ka2

Rxc1


1/13/2009 11:04:24 AM
Every now and then someone just needs a good spankin'... <evil grin>  My kitten has been good so I gave her a sampling of what she can expect soon...

12/28/2008 6:04:16 PM
Greetings one and all!  SO here we are looking at a new year, new commitments, and new turns in our journies. 

With that said...

The Whipped Kitten will be meeting for dinner on Janurary 24th, 7pm @ Kilroy's in Lansing.  Please RSVP by January 17th so we know how much room to reserve.  We look forward to seeing you there!

DC and WinterJewel

12/6/2008 4:55:02 AM
Ok, it's been a bit since I've posted anything.  So I'm off today to help officiate a chess tournament!  I just love the sound of the pieces tapping across the battle field, the snap of the clocks unrelenting in keeping time against the opposition.  And let's not forget the pizza!  What can I say, chess is a part of who I am.   

11/4/2008 7:02:29 AM
Ok it's been a bit since I've put anything up here.  So I have an announcement.

The next Whipped Kitten munch will be on  Saturday November 15th @ 7pm!  For more info or to rsvp, send me or Winter a message...  I look forward to seeing you there.


Just added!!!   Show and tell... bring a "pervertable" with you to show and tell the group.  See you there!

9/21/2008 6:21:22 PM

Nothing like laughing so much and having such a good time.  We acctually left the bar and came back we were having so much fun.  Then about 12ish we ditch that bar and checked into Franco's in Highland for some dancing and a couple of more drinks.  Talk about fun. 

To those of you who were unable to attend, sorry you missed a good time. 

We will keep you posted on the next time we set up a meeting.


9/19/2008 11:29:35 AM
Alrighty people, for those of us who are meeting tomorrow, let them know your looking for "kitten" and they can direct you to our table.  Bring your smile!

D

9/14/2008 7:57:19 AM

No Questions--

He lead her up the stairs by the red scarf tied around her neck.  He could not hide the joy in his voice as he looked at her, blindfolded, as he told her when to step up, when to turn, when to stop.  The smile on her face was so intoxicating, he could hardly wait to get her to the room.  Today he would take his time.  Pacing himself with his words and actions.  Drawing out the anticipation of what was to come.  The total trust she put in him was amazing.  Putting the key card in the lock, the door opened and the smell of the apple blossom candles over powered them.  She could her the trickle of a waterfall, a simple instrumental song played in the back ground, giving the room almost a Zen feeling to it.  Giving a slight tug on her "leash" to draw her into the room he led her in to the middle of it.  The door closed with a resounding thunk and the lock was turned.  "Hold out your hands." he commanded.  She did so with her palms up.  He placed the fur lined cuff around her wrists and buckled them.  There would be no slipping out of these cuffs.  She could feel they were about 4 inches wide.  He threaded another scarf through the rings of the cuffs, pulling her hands together.  "Take one step up."  as she did so her hands were pulled up over her head.  He tied off the scarfs holding her hands above her head.  Not so high as to cut off her air passage, but enough that she could not relax them.  Questions raced through her mind, but having been commanded to not question she kept them to herslef.  She felt a hand start to glide across her back, but this was not the hand of her Daddy.  This hand was soft, gentle, exploring.  It glided around her back across her ribs and over her stomach.  Her senses jumped to full alert.  Wondering was going to happen.  "Daddy?"  the question started to escape her lips.  She bit her tongue quickly, but it was too late.  The silk rope flogger landed on her back.  "No questions my kitten."  The one hand quickly became two hands.  The two hands cupped her breasts and rolled her nipples between the fingers.  She could feel herself moisten immediately.....


8/25/2008 12:43:20 PM
Ok folks, here's another question.  What is the difference between bottom and submissive, or Top and Dominate?  I can't wait to hear from all of you.

Daddy

8/25/2008 7:15:13 AM
Having a get together on the 20th of Septmeber.  Let me know if you're interested.

8/11/2008 11:23:45 AM
The Daddy Theory --

Inside ever woman, is a little girl who needs to be cared for and nurtured.  No matter her D/s tendancies, somewhere inside her she longs for that father figure to step in and tell her it's ok, she's not responsible, all she has to do is follow his lead, whether it is verbal instruction or more "hands-on". 

So I would like to hear your thoughts on it... especially from Dommes.  Have you ever felt like that little girl hiding under her bed covers and needed the strength of that absent father figure??

Daddy Chess

8/10/2008 5:55:32 AM
You know you're too busy when you have 2 days off in a row, and haven't had time to plan a thing for your birthday.  Thinking of some microwave popcorn and a couple of good movies.  Just boycott the 10.5 billion quarterly profit the oil company has and stay at home.  Then again... why let some company dictate to me...  that would be so unlike me... LOL  I feel so indecisive...

7/28/2008 9:24:29 PM
Ok, I saw this in forum and just about busted a gut.  So I thought I'd share with all those who don't visit the forums...
 (I hope this isn't a real senerio)

ATTORNEY: Are you sexually active?
WITNESS: No, I just lie there.
______________________________________________________
ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
WITNESS: I forget.
ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
_____________________________________
ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
WITNESS: He said, 'Where am I, Cathy?'
ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
WITNESS: My name is Susan!
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo?
WITNESS: We both do.
ATTORNEY: Voodoo?
WITNESS: We do.
ATTORNEY: You do?
WITNESS: Yes, voodoo.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep,he doesn't know about it until the next morning?
WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
____________________________________
ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he?
WITNESS: Uh, he's twenty-one.
________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
WITNESS: Are you shittin' me?
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
WITNESS: Uh.... I was gettin' laid!
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: She had three children, right?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
WITNESS: None.
ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
WITNESS: Are you shittin' me? Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
WITNESS: By death.
ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
WITNESS: Now whose death do you suppose terminated it?
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard.
ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
WITNESS: Guess.
______________________ _______________
ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice
which I sent to your attorney?
WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead
people?
WITNESS: All my autopsies are performed on dead people. Would you like to
rephrase that?
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
WITNESS: Oral.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 p..m.
ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
WITNESS: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was doing an autopsy on him!
____________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
WITNESS: Huh....are you qualified to ask that question?
______________________________________
And the best for last:
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the
autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.

7/25/2008 11:26:16 PM
I saw a funny line today it said,  My girlfriend laughs all the time during sex, no matter what she's reading...  LOL...  I feel sorry for that guy.

7/20/2008 7:22:23 PM
Wow, has it really been that long??  Ok, I finaly got the drivers back and installed so we are back online... woohooo

6/27/2008 9:23:04 AM
Ok, so today I wipe my hard drive.  I'll be back.. I hate re-intalling software... LOL

6/10/2008 5:03:01 PM

Ok, so we had a great weekend last Memeorial Day weekend.  The collaring was cool and even better was the time spent in the room not worried about waking anyone, or being disturbed by kids or pets...  So, take the time to; learn, trust, obey, guide, teach, love, help, risk, rest, explore, be, do, fail, succeed.... in short.  LIVE!  Take advatage of time... Carpe Diem


5/24/2008 10:46:10 AM
Ok, we are off.  Time to celebrate!  I look forward to seeing those of you who are coming.  Until next time....

5/19/2008 8:30:45 AM

Is it too much to ask for some respect?  Those idiots and infidels who contact my kitten sending "kisses" or worse drive me nuts.  I suppose some don't know what a collar is.  Maybe they just can't read??  Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with people telling us how beautiful she is, because it's true.  But to think that because of your experience or looks should warrent attention or a positive response... I just don't understand.  And I don't care how "affectionate" you are in the real world, if you were to walk up to us on the street and say "Hi, I think you look good.  I'm good looking too.  I have years of experience in bdsm." and then kiss MY wife!  You'd be in some serious hurt.  Now I understand that this is not real life and I probably should "not worry" about such things, but I am who I am no matter where I am.  If I'm at work, at home, in social settings, or online... I give respect.  I speak as I would if we were standing infront of eachother.  So to all you "Doms" out there, act with honor.


5/15/2008 8:29:49 AM
New Question!  Ok, since this was possed to me by a friend I think it is a good question to ask.

Why is pain such a large part of the BDSM community?

5/15/2008 8:27:12 AM
Well it's been a bit since I've put anything here.  Greatfully I've not had to deal with too many idiots.  O good sign because I refuse to have a battle of wits with the unarmed.  I wanted to post on the line between submissive and slave.  In truth it's a vary fine line, at the core.  Yes there are those who are submissive behind closed doors only.  They control much of their world and need someone else to make the decisions.  But I am speaking of wiring.  The gift of submission is a beautiful thing and when a Master comes along who recognizes that, he can help the submissive blossom.  The biggest difference between a submissive and a slave seems to be opinon.  Let's take two groups for our example.

Group A say has a true submissive among them, knowingly or not.  They are trying to decide where to go to lunch.  The submissive, though doesn't have to have her way, really wants to go to the rib shack.  She will probablly mention this more than once and even argue as to why, even if she concedes and the group goes for burgers...

Group B has a true slave in their group.  While they are deciding where to go for lunch, she is more likely to only mention once that she wants ribs and will go anywhere the group wants. 

A special note -- if in either group their Master has given them clear direction as to what to have, they will seem very dominate in the decision making process in order to obey.  Also I am in no way saying that either the submissive or the slave is weak in any way shape or form.  In my opinion, it takes a great deal of strength to trust and obey than to take matters into your own hands.  Nor am I saying the either the slave or the submissive is better than the other. 

There is more but this is a good summary.  Thank you to all who contributed to my post, "The Line".  A new question will be coming soon.

4/14/2008 9:24:43 AM
The Line:

Just wondering where you think the line is between submissive and slave.  What do you see as the difference?

4/12/2008 12:19:17 PM
Titles:

It occurred to me that many pretend to be something they are not, just to fit in.  I've met others who seem to have given themselves a title.  What is a Master with out as slave?  What is a Lord, with out a subject?  In the vanilla world, one has to earn the title of Master.  This defines the level of experience one has in a certain area.  Just because someone likes to build, does not make them a master carpenter.  Or just because someone likes to drive, doesn't make them a master driver.  Yet there seems that people are quick to take on the title of Master and not really have a clue as to what that really entails.  Now the question becomes, after one earns the title, can it be taken away or lost?  Just because you've lost the title, does that mean you've lost the knowledge or skill? 

So let me say this to sum it up:  If you are fortunate enough to have earned the title, don't walk around thinking you can't be stripped of it.  If you have given yourself a title, try earning it.  Just as I am not Daddy to every sub, nor does my kitten call all doms "Master / Daddy", but only the one I have chosen to be Daddy and Master over, and in turn has accepted to bestowe such honor to me. 

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