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REAL LIFE ONLY NO CYBER NO ROLE PLAY NONE OF THIS SEND ME MONEY CRAP!!!!!! tired of the players, liers, scammers and shit.

Hello and welcome to our house hold profile.

We are Domgmr and DomgmrLady a Goren lifestyle Roman couple.

Yes I said Goren not Gorean

We also happen to be the first house of Thee Goren Society.

We have been living this way of life for over thirty plus years

We only offer a real house hold a good roman based with long term structure and servitude. No bullshit No drama.We do not smoke, drink or do drugs. nor do we participate in cyber,role play,long distance anything, either you relocate to us fully engaged in real service or move along.We have owned male slaves and slave couples before so we are not afraid in the least of either of those. Just careful and cautious.

If during our initial conversations with you,you demand money, email, phone contact information without providing bonified references, real life contact information the conversation will end abruptly and you will be blocked!!!

We have no problem what so ever with verifying ourselves owners and slaves and meeting with anyone in a public venue. We have even begun hosting private parties again!!!

I am a 55 year old owner medium build simple demeanor. Wife is a switch now days and is 66,she is the house mistress. We have been together for 23 years. I must make this very clear we both work, I have a more flexible work schedule.

My first girl is 58

My second girl is 46

Our third girl is 59.

My other slaves are

a 19 year old female slave.

We have owned slaves for over 36 plus years.In addition, for many years we served as a host house for parties and for those who where in transit from one to another.Our newest slave is 44 blond she is fitting into her new life!! We do keep pets, two legged and four legged ones, so you must be compatible to living with them.

We work, live just about like any other person does, except it is structured around the central mind set of owner property.We have owned a large number of slaves at the same time and function with more then the average house hold well. I will not place a number of how many slaves I will keep or not, we base our life on the whole sum of things not on material items or a material way of life. Yeah, I know this is a oxymoron of sorts but it is what it is.

Note for male slaves in order for you to gain a offline audience with us you must posses the ability to stand out and be worth the time and effort .Most just want the fantasy and not the reality.

We own and keep slaves for life good or bad, healthy or not, it is the roll of life, we just deal with it and move forward.Am I or Are we good owners that would depend on who you ask. We are not push overs nor do we cater to whiners, lazy people in general. We have owned slaves from every aspect of life over the years.

We live in Central Florida on a small farm currently. Just to clarify if you have ever owned property in Florida anything over a acre gets real expensive to own and keep. You are not going to buy any acreage for a few thousand dollars down here.

Old style roman poly house 36 years living this way of life!!we live in the country and have for a decades. We are getting ready for our final relocation to a much larger property in which we plan on keeping long term.Yes this does mean we do not live in the city nor do we ever plan to again.

Shortly we will be offering a exclusive Air bnb hosting in a few rural rustic cottages where you will be immersed in the day to day operations of a slave ranch plantation mentality.

Here is what we will not do

We will not send money

We will not hide you if you come into the USA illegally

We will not allow you to overstay your visa.

We will not host you for a FREE vacation

We will not give out our personal information to anyone we do not know in real life.

We will not contact you on a site after one message

We will not move forward until we know who you are

We will not negotiate with potential slaves

We will only make conditions on a case by case basis

We will not tolerate intolerance

We do not care what race, gender you are or think you are, just do not lie to us about it

We will not force you to come to us

We will not kidnap you

We will not coddle you

We will not put up with bullshit

We do what we say

No drama We do not want it like it or need it.

Update:We are closing on a new ranch property very shortly which will allow us to relocate to by years end.

If you require us to finance your life or to finance you coming to us, just pass us by we have no intent of ever paying for so called free slaves being released by a owner nor do we play any of the other games most here do.

We live it in the real world with real vanilla issues along side bdsm with a Roman twist.Just so that we are clear.

We currently own older slaves and have owned them for decades, Yes real slaves, decades. We are always open to taking in new slaves provided they have the proper mind set. May you find what every it is you are searching for.

This is not a weekend or bedroom play but a way of life.Roman slavery preferred!!!

At any time you may find a slave hung up and being whipped or being used.

Our household is always looking for potential female slaves willing to be stripped of their dignity enslaved by their own will. If that sounds right for you, I would be more than happy to discuss the opportunity with you.

I will keep this as simple as one can. A slave by definition is property, real property/object /chattel.If you define yourself as a slave, then I will surely treat you as one. Our mind set is a slave is to be of service to it's owner. It does not place conditions on it's owner. Otherwise, this becomes just role play and nothing more.This is not a job,their are no days off or vacations or free time other then what a owner decides for it's property.

We offer stability.I keep slaves long term which means they must have something other then a couple of holes.You have to bring something to the table.

Strict, fair, patient, sadistic, disciplined, for those who need or require it.

Limits are realistic : Death,Kids,Drugs,Dismemberment,Severe Broken bones, Severe Blood loss ABL, We do try to keep a open mind but you know we live in a realistic manner not the fantasy hyperbole these days.


If you have children you must have custody and have arrangements in place in writing we will not be part of a drawn out legal affair.Kids will be cared for just like any other in vanilla life, given structure guidance,discipline as required.No they will not be involved in any manner no matter how kinky you might think it is.

The following positions are now open:

House domestic slave.

Out door labor slave.

General service slave.

Kennel labor slave

As well as we are opening a kennel service

livestock,which will include pets,piggies,hu cows and ponies.

If you have a career path by all means keep it.We are a real life house hold so we do function as one. All slaves work period.Even if you are on SSI you still must perform certain non sexual tasks and live within our protocol.

The dungeon slave position has been filled for now. However we will be adding a few other positions once we get the new dungeon up.The dungeon slave position will be back open November 1st.

I will be opening a few more livestock and field service slaves who must have adequate mechanical skills sets.

I the owner of this house maintains this profile as well as on fet life.

I took a oath at 17 to defend the Constitution of These here United States and the last time I checked it does not have a expiration date and neither do I

I live by the Code!!!

De Opresso Libber!!!

Proud real life member of THE GOREN SOCIETY. As such as part of our oath and membership we must be able to keep slaves form to time in transition or moving along within the society.

First House of TGS








 Rural Central 





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12/31/2022 5:15:15 PM

Happy New Year's be safe

9/6/2022 11:10:53 AM

T otal



Is where the sub/slave/property, hands it's life over to their owner for the duration of their enslavement without any recourse.

This requires a level trust more importantly knowledge and masterfully skilled set of skills that most people do not have nor will they ever get that experience. 

 It's very rare today to have true TPE although it is possible it is just rare.


4/17/2022 3:52:33 AM

 Morning,  More than once somebody has asked me I must want cookie cutter slaves. No, because each slave is unique to their own desires, their own limitations, their own mindset. Yes, in general slaves and subs everybody has the same basic training tools and experiences at the beginning.

We All are slaves to our desires, so all those are unique they have similar general guidelines no matter from mild to extreme it doesn't matter here's why, WE all walk the path of life each  of us take different forks, paths, branches and eventually end up at the same destination. I equate it to being a soldier you have all kinds of different soldiers inside the army, 11 Bravo, 11 Charlie, 18 Bravo, medics, truck drivers,cooks and so forth. Some are just strictly you know clerks, even though we all have the same basic training and We have different individual jobs we all have the same purpose.


4/16/2022 4:51:14 AM

  Hello long time no see.

 For those of us who have lived the lifestyle and have lived this way of life for a long time we've endured trials and tribulations and it seems more than our share of failures as well as some success. 

For those coming into the lifestyle,  some things are new, most things are not  BDSM is the natural order of life.  There will always be dominant, submissive, property, owner, slave, submissive, bottom, top, all these are just words used to describe that order. There's no going back, No utopia to the human condition

Someone will always lead, someone will always follow, some will always use, some will always take, some always give, some always do nothing except sit there and not move forward for a lack of fear for lack of decisiveness for lack of just Not wanting to take that chance.

Bondage, Discipline, Sadism, Masochism  are the tools of the lifestyle, the sex all that pretty much remains the same. The only difference is who's doing it,who's using it,who's living it. Humans are a short lived species better to have lived life then to wait until end to experience it at death's door.




2/27/2022 6:22:26 AM

We are out of time!!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!

12/27/2021 11:05:07 PM


12/14/2017 11:26:35 PM
Greetings everyone!!!! Hope you all are having a wonderful Holiday season. Lets us take a moment to thank all of our servicemen and women who are in service to our great nation.

Now for those interested, We  are still looking for a larger parcel to create my vision of paradise IE our Bed n Breakfast. I have rejected several properties for various reasons.

We currently reside on a much smaller parcel which does limit our ability to expand. It does not stop us, but does limit some activities.Life goes on!!!!!

10/13/2017 4:47:34 AM
We are very real and have been for 37 plus years way before it was the thing,  in vogue or mainstream. So we are not going any damn where.

10/13/2017 4:01:47 AM
People are getting worse and worse these days. More and more pages of just more scammers players liers.

People wonder why more and more are no longer coming online to meet others in the lifestyle or worse stop going to munches altogether due to the massive amounts of back stabbing  endless drama and baggage. What is it gonna take to get it through your thick heads harassment and thievery never works

10/8/2017 5:28:33 AM
Update some have asked why we no longer post pics on this profile, well it is a long story the short version is  some on here have this nasty habit that if they see a pic  of a particular type they then spend a enormous amount of time harassing the folks who post them. Now I am not gonna go into the type of pics we have posted in the past. However we have just grown tired of the constant barrage of crap from individuals on here as well as on a few other sites.

We can easily verify all of us  through this site. We only converse with others on other communication suites once we have been able to actually verify who they are in the real world.

As for the ranch, as most of those who know us already know, the ranch we had a contract on fell through this was  not our fault. The house we currently reside in will have to be gutted, and renovated or torn down, as a result of the flood waters and now the mold that has been growing since the hurricane. So we are now actively looking at a few properties to temporarily relocate to while we decide whether to renovate the house we live in now or find the property we actually want. We still have the barn that is separate from where we live, which is a pain in the ass for transport costs back n forth.

So for now, we will use this site as our primary correspondence for the entire house hold. I nor the house mistress does not have enough time in the day or week for that matter to waste time online just trying to keep everyone informed.

To my fellow comrades in arms we saw another week of our brothers take their last steps in freedom  defending our way of life.They will be sorely missed  for those in the 3rd SFG., we know you will continue the fight.See you on the other side at the RP.


9/22/2017 1:48:35 PM
I find it strange that adults today do not know the law or for that matter even understand how they can be charged with violation both at the federal and State level  of violating the Mann act a obscure Federal law that pretty much screws anyone who gives loans, extorts money for the purpose of relocation promising sexual favors, sexual services.  They can also be charged with various State and local charges beating around the agstination of prostitution or receiving money for services not rendered, fraud, bank and electronic wire fraud, the list goes on and on.

9/19/2017 2:35:35 AM
We are fine We just got power back and still have water in the yard amongst all of the other crap now in the yard as well.Animals and slaves are ok as well.

Why is it that people spend a enormous amount of time trying like hell to persuade us to believe their bullshit crap or try to deceive us.  Your never gonna get us to spend money or give loan extort money, in fact if anything I will go the opposite way but not only requiring you to validate yourself  But to pass a actual back ground check prior to any real commitments.

9/8/2017 9:07:32 AM

5/23/2017 6:53:00 PM
Informed Consent:  At least in the context to us is where a slave or sub is given the full breath of potential use fully understanding  the extreme aspects as well as the mundane aspects. They are given the choice to enter into service knowing how they will and may be used, kept and owned. Following through, making and keeping the commitments, show they understand fully the ramifications, dangers and risks.We live by this it is why we list clearly and concisely our house hold limits.

Risk  you are aware of the risk involved and accept that risk
Aware you  are aware comprehend the ramifications of the potential dangers involved in a specific activity
Consensual you fully accept and comprehend what is going on
Kink you seek to live out a particular kink and or fetish

  • Safe: attempts should be made to identify and prevent risks to health.
  • Sane: activities should be undertaken in a sane and sensible cast of mind.
Consensual: all activities should involve the full informed consent of all parties involved.

Safe means you only seek out safe roleplay which includes a safe word.
Sane you will only participate in role play that you consider to be sane  nothing extreme.
Consensual you consent to a specific activity and every activity has to have your full consent.

We use the informed consent as part of our way of life since we tend to be much more extreme then either SSC or RACK  is.

5/21/2017 8:04:16 AM
Hello out of a 100 people we talk to 99 will never move forward or have no intentions of meeting let alone actually living this. Now out of those ones left maybe 1 out of a thousand moves towards a interview and out of those maybe 2 make it to reality.My pointy in all of this is we make a offer and stand by it however we are not here to play games, drama or any of the other crap online has become.  Our house will not lose a wink of sleep when some one does not do what they commit to.

5/19/2017 5:43:41 PM

It does not matter who wrote this nor whether it is actually trump or not.What matters is we the people need a constitutional convention by the States to ensure we no longer become property of the large corporations, special interests groups.

Gladly passed on!!

In three days, most people in the United States will have the message. This is clearly an amazing idea that must be passed around. Stand by for the push back from THE SWAMP

 Let's see if congress understands what people pressure is all about.

Salary of retired US Presidents .. . . . . $180,000 FOR LIFE.

Salary of House/Senate members .. . . $174,000 FOR LIFE

This is stupid

Salary of Speaker of the House .. . . . . $223,500 FOR LIFE.

This is really stupid

Salary of Majority / Minority Leaders . . $193,400 FOR LIFE.

Average Salary of a teacher . . .. . . . .. . . . . .. .$40,065

Average Salary of a deployed Soldier . . .. . . .. $38,000

Here's where the cuts should be made!

Congressional Reform Act of 2017

1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman / woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.

2. Congress (past, present, & future) participates in Social Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 3/1/17. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.

Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and go back to work.

TRUMP, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling: "I could end the deficit in five minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election".

The 26th Amendment ( granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds ) took only three months and eight days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - all because of public pressure.

Trump is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
 If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then it will only take three days for most people in the U.S. to receive the message. It's time!

5/15/2017 5:45:23 AM
Have I told you how much I hate liers, thieves cons and such. It seem that is all their is on here these days.

5/14/2017 7:38:52 AM
If your major concern, desire, need, requirement, is money,  then you are no slave to a owner, but a slave to money.How does that serve any potential owner,

5/13/2017 7:35:38 PM
It just amazes me how soo many on here these days either want your personal information so they can use it for their own purposes or worse they hint around beat around the bush that all they want is for you to support their worthless asses and send them money.Not one in the last decade who has asked us for our personal information with out actually spending the time to know us has ever been real. They have used that misinformation  thinking they got something.

5/10/2017 6:24:55 AM
I need to clarify a FEW  things.

Reality check.  I have over the years tried to refrain from bitching, ranting about others on here and elsewhere. However after a recent en counter  which left a very bad taste in our mouths we have come to some reality driven changes.

Why does soo many potential slaves lack even the basic skills in life, they lack most service skills or serviceable skill sets.They refuse to take on courses, classes to improve enhance their ability to actually serve. They seem to only be able to perform sexual tasks and even with that they are lacking.

Females slaves tend to be more fickle then ever.Many want one on one, they want romance they seem to think the fifty shade of grey nonsense is the only way it works. These days you can have a long conversation with them and then poof they just disappear.

Male slaves  Yes we do seek a exceptional male slave  we are open to it,HOWEVER having a cock and a few holes does not get you past first base with us. We get hundreds of male slave applicants and out of those 99 percent of them fail to have any thing other then their body. If you do not have a income stream to support your self and are able to relocate  honestly legally on your own why should we bother or risk our selves or our house hold for you, we do not know you.

For us it is not about you or your libido hate to bust your hyperbole fantasy but the reality is this  you have to bring significant capabilities to the table other wise you are just like the hundred of others.

Male slaves are not very good rent able property as whores no matter what most will tell you the reality is far worse then any of the crap I have seen or heard.

Shemales TS trans genders ETC. In our previous real life experience most tend not to be who they pretend to be. Many will never be passable and worse most spend a eternity being indecisive about where they want to be.Now I have owned real life Ts slaves both beautiful ones as well as non passable ones.They all face similar issues.

Sadly,  doms,dommes today, in some ways are even worse, they lack leadership skills  and have poor interaction skills. Most of those we have met tend to be lacking  even the basic skills to own,operate and run a house hold.

I am the voice for my house hold being the head of house hold, owner and master.However, each of my slaves who do serve in my house have skills sets that I use and need.Aside from the sexual aspects of this life style one can only have so much sex in a given time frame unless of course you listen to all the fantasy hyperbole bantered about these days online.

5/5/2017 6:32:27 PM
Hosting our first party of the year tomorrow night.see everyone here!!!

5/5/2017 2:16:33 AM
For those who give a damn,  Whenever I have a conversation with most these days many fail to understand  what we offer  is not run of the mill swinger sex. Sex is the easy part of the equation. I ask a ton of questions not to be boring  but to weed out those who well are not who they pretend to be.

Sadly most  we have met lately  are not even close to whom they pretend to be. I understand everyone exaggerates but come on people stealing photos  and all the other crap. Really all it does in reality is piss people off and worse force those who are real back into the underground.

I live in the real world with real world issues tasks and things I do.I do not drink,smoke do drugs, does that make me boring perhaps, depends on how you define risk these days. However the life I have lived has been quite the adventure even with the bdsm aside from my daily life.

My house hold is stable, safe and serve my needs each. Every slave has a function now that function will change over time like with most things in life.We keep it as real as it gets.This is not a job or vocation it is an experience.

For instance if you are a pain slut I use you as one , if you are a service slave great, labor slave, whore money slave  the deion does not matter it is the mind set of serving and being owned fully.

5/1/2017 7:56:54 PM
What we offer is not normal yet it is  we try very hard to blend in our mind set within our way of life.It is not glamorous or something out of Hollywood It is real harsh yet freeing.

4/28/2017 2:23:59 PM
KIA 26 April 2017 AFGHANISTAN, SGT Joshua P. Rodgers 22 Illinois SGT. Cameron H, Thomas 23 Ohio 3rd Battalion 75th. Ranger Regiment Sua Sponte  RIP  Rangers Lead The Way!!

May your journey to the next life be painless peaceful and swift. Will see you at the RP Rally point on the other side brothers!! Carry On!

De Opresso Liber!!

3/27/2017 4:43:05 AM
If you are going to not answer the questions posed  then do not expect us to answer any as well. We have no problem answering questions which are based on reality and not some fantasy. Most here these days seem to be only interested in jacking getting off not actually serving.

3/3/2017 2:57:01 AM
FYI We are a reality based house hold and not a fetish based house hold!!!!We enjoy fetishes like anyone else however, real world still revolves around that big bright light bulb in the sky and like most things bills have to be paid for and we still have to eat, sleep and do those things that makes us happy. Owners are owners, and slaves are still just property to be owned, used and kept.

1/16/2017 6:05:05 PM
Another sad day for space.May your journey back to the Stars be swift and free Gene!! Gene Cernan last man to walk on the moon on Apollo 17 died today at the young age of 82 God Speed!!!!

1/3/2017 2:40:27 AM
Is the never ending list of crap one deals with these days on this site is never gonna end.

12/27/2016 5:46:30 AM
Happy New Years!!!!!!Those coming to the party  it is gonna be a wild one!!!The pool will be open and the hot tub!!

12/24/2016 11:05:47 PM
Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas

12/16/2016 10:41:09 PM
Everybody want's the perfect reality fantasy which does not exist.Reality Check, If you want to be trained you must first takes the steps to actually be trained. If you place conditions upon enslavement or training how do you expect to ever find anyone.

12/8/2016 8:50:41 PM
December 8 2016 John Glenn died at 95 May you again ride the rocket of fire to the stars, God Speed !!!!!!!Ad astra

11/20/2016 10:00:19 AM
Looks like we may be hosting the next gathering for 2017. It is between us and Texas.

11/18/2016 4:04:51 AM
Reality ass check!!!If you send us pics that are internet or porn pics how do you expect us to actually believe a word you say.

If you expect us to text you or call you with out knowing you, you are sadly mistaken.

The reason for this journal entry is to let everyone know of some new techniques scammers and worse being used on this site and a few others. Specifically by others for nefarious uses to say the least.

Due to recent tech advances by the bad guys, now they can use just your number to gain real critical usable actionable Intel on you to steal your identity or worse. Do not believe me, users beware.They can phish your number, use your private info on your smart phone including your personal email checking account info They also insert Trojan ware into your smart phone without you even knowing it is there.This is fairly commonly known information. I could go on about all the various scams and crap on this site and others but suffice to say pron bdsm sites are now on several white lists of IT companies as a watch list site.

99.9 percent of the users on this site are at the very least disingenuous to what the site is about, worse most are out to make a buck at our expense.

We are still dealing with a legal criminal matter pertaining to this very thing. Again, some of you who know us know what we have gone through in the past pertaining to this issue.It is still not over yet.

We require verifiable offline references,they do not need to be life style related references, if you are going to come to our home, why would you not require that. These days they  do background checks on the garbage man, baby sitters, house maids, lawn service guys, why would you not require at the very least the same thing for some one who will be coming into your domicile.For those who attack us,fuck you, you do not live in my life nor have you walked in my shoes nor will you. Most of those who are the loudest ass wipes  end up being the ones who have a lot to hide from. I am who I say I am and have been for a very long ass time.
I do not run or hide from who I am or what I have become. I walk the path I have chosen good or bad.

For those who have asked why are you still here or still in the life style if you have such negatives against it.Well  who the hell has the right to kick anyone off or out of the lifestyle NO Fucking one including me I could care less if you want to screw one or many or what ever you want in your life it is your life and I will defend that right till my very last breath.It is your life to fuck it up any way you want.That being said, I will however draw the line when you cross the line into my life or those within my life.We are not against the life style, but against the bullshit, players and such. Why should we be forced to quit something we actually live everyday, Fuck em, Never gonna happen we may very well leave this site and others soon if things continue down this black hole.

We started out this path with a secretive underground group and like most of the real lifers who have gone back to that world will most likely be heading back to it instead.

This crap does not make me in the least angry it does push us to be much more careful these days.

11/11/2016 5:24:18 AM
To all my fellow Vets Happy Veteran's Day and many more.To my comrades in arms  may your day be blessed and un eventful. Carry On!!

To the ones who have fallen may your sacrifice be never be squandered or lost!!

To those who have lost someone who has served their sacrifice does not go unnoticed or cherished.

We shall never forget!!!

De Opresso Libber 

Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high “esprit de corps” of my Ranger Regiment.

Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster and fight harder than any other soldier.

Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be. One hundred-percent and then some.

Gallantly will I show the world that I’m a specially selected and well trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.

Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country, I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.

Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight onto the Ranger objective and complete the mission, though I be the lone survivor.

Rangers Lead The Way!!!!

11/2/2016 10:00:44 PM
WOW, Now, I know the world is coming to a END!!! The Chicago cubs won the world series!!!

11/2/2016 10:15:59 AM
Why in the world would anyone actually want a pic of me or my wife is insane by itself. To the few ass holes who have stolen, yes stolen pics off our profile and placed them somewhere else just FYI  they are legally yes legally copyrighted and we take steps to secure and remove said copyrighted material from other sites. It is why we took off a lot of pics the last few years that we used to display.How sad it has become when real people who actually live this way of life has to remove from a bdsm profile they have had for over a decade pics showing them actually living the lifestyle due to a few ass hats.

Just for the record I have no problem using legal resources to obtain criminal,civil monetary damages against any individual,corporation, entity,institution,to the fullest extent of the law!!!!

10/23/2016 4:02:41 AM
I /We work our mother fucking ass's off to have what we have no one gave it to me or paid for it. And sure as hell no one to come bail us out, if I have a bad week or month or years.

If you consider serving the equivalent of work then you are not a true slave. If you think not working to earn your keep,then you are not remotely close to being a slave just another lazy as fuck delusional opportunist.

Just what the world needs is another worthless piece of shit!!!.

Big difference if you have a disability where you cannot physically work.

I really do hate the auto correct spelling and censor program on here.

Grow the fuck up people!!!!!

10/19/2016 3:18:41 AM
Their used to be a time when you could trust the words spoken or written by those seeking on either side of the owner slave equation.

Sadly it is now to the point where even if you trade info and have conversations most are not who they pretend to be these days.

At least we could at one time trust those within our inner circles with our real life info now  no way!!!!!!

I am glad that the group I belong to these days I can trust with my life, I have their back and they have mine.

Words only have meaning, when you back them up with your character!!!!

10/5/2016 8:01:09 PM
I am a practical realist. I deal with things in the most practical matter.So for those jack asses I get criticizing me,I really really do not give a rat's fuck.

Just because I call you on your bullshit and you then play all of these damn games does exactly nothing to us.

If, however you threaten me in the real world or my house hold  now that will bring out a part of me you really really do not want, for I will never give up I will never stop until I find your worthless ass and make you pay. I  have the intestinal fortitude  required to complete that task.
We live in the real world and deal with real shit, so unless you are being an adult and civil then get real and move the fuck on!!!!

De OPresso Liber!!!!!!

9/28/2016 6:16:55 AM
We are still together and going strong19 years!!! We have been through a lot of trial and tribulations.

9/13/2016 2:13:35 AM
Oh for those who try to play me scam us or just out right try to steal from us.Not gonna happen before anything happens with us we will know everything of the other person. And that person better be able to move forward on their own volition.  We are all adults and require you to be as well. Either way players just remember this Some of us  actually live this and we do not play the fucking games you all seem to want to play.

9/12/2016 3:42:35 AM
Now why would a master dom type cheat, steal, be un trusting, worthy,  in general if he is a real owner type.Most of the ones who just want a fuck n dump or are just interested in wanking are mostly swingers with some fetish or weekend kink.

Real owners  live this day in out go to work do their jobs,pay their bills, are responsible and disciplined. Most of the ones I know or have known  maintain a pretty serious disciplined mental attitude.

A real slave already serves 24 7  they just do not serve when they want or how they want.
A submissive on the other hand controls who, what, when, and where she gives up control.
A slave  gives that  up front as part of the deal in general.
A slave does not get weekends off or vacations.
A real slave has no gender, no race, they have no choice as to whether they are bisexual or not.
Slaves are not gay lesbian or bi they are whatever their owner desires them to be!!!
Anything else is just semantics.
They are real property chattel.Many on here has this fantasy of what a slave is or they romanticize it.Many these days seem to think that online equals real life, the reality check people is that it is just a chat nothing more. Yes you may have invested time and effort but in the end as long as you sit behind that key board and monitor you never will get it.

TPE real Total Power Exchange  is as close to real consensual nonconsensual slavery as one can get but many confuse this to a session  or weekend play it is not that.As long as you the slave can manipulate, control, maneuver or force by any method other then the one agreed upon, then TPE does not exist and it becomes like most things these days a illusion and role play at best.

Can a slave exist and serve within the vanilla world, Yes, as long as she understands  everything she is or will be is her owner's and for him to use abuse,change, modify, deny.You the slave are there to serve him.If you are lucky worthy enough, your owner will fulfill all the other cravings and needs you have as part of his life.

Most here interchange slave, sub, fuck buddy and all the other whimsical  names and definitions as they see fit. Living it makes it hard for that to happen.

Reality enslavement and service if a life time commitment to the principles of bdsm. With Pc running rampant these days  within the bdsm community  I am sure it will just get more fragmented as time moves forward.

8/12/2016 11:23:46 PM
Things are  moving forward. We hope to close shortly on the much larger ranch.

7/7/2016 11:07:08 AM
To the dumb asses who have been flooding my inbox. Even if this is our house profile I refuse to allow my house hold to have to deal with this crap in any way into our  inbox with hate mail and calling us out as a fake.

FOR the record, we will only proof of life pics and cam to verify, we are indeed a couple and a house with real slaves  and only on our terms.We have no need to publicly expose,depict our way of life for anyone.
We will not use pic from the net period.

Further to clarify: Fuck you very much!!Just because I refuse to allow the general public into our house or the workings of my house does not constitute being fake. I and the members of my house have gone out of our way to avoid drama. We strongly live by the live and let live narrative!! Yes it is my house  I could say it is our house, but I started it I have added to it, so it is mine and I am not going to drop someone out of my house just because you or anyone else places that as a condition.

Back in the day, their used to be at least common respect, mutual respect for each other, even if we disagreed with the conversation or the content of someones profile.We used real life references, everything was slow going, took time and effort to make it happen for a reason and never stabbed each other in the back!!

Now days, we get constant vile bullshit aimed at us with many we have never met or even chatted with. Out of the blue, we get mail from people who call us ever name in the damn book and for what? Because we refuse to give them what they want or we do not live according to their standards. Well people,  grow the fuck up and remember this is still for now a free country.We just have grown tired, disappointed at the endless games and out right deception by most of the users on this site and other sites.


This, in your face shock in awe BS has got to end !!!

7/5/2016 11:45:27 PM
I go out of my way to avoid political debates or conversations.This journal entry is a little redundant in how I try to convey information that I have been witnessing with ever increasing intensity over the last decade. I am reluctant to even now discuss or put to paper any of it,However today  that changed when a person who was supposed to be responsible in the post for which they wanted and took the oath vacated their responsibility for their own personal greed.

Four men died serving their country. They were promised help and assistance then denied.

They died while their country knew and allowed them to die, and for what,  to protect  a false narrative, a secret deal gone bad  to push a hidden agenda that is still in place by the powers that be.
No one is willing to ask, demand or hold accountable  what happened to the stingers and javelins,other military supplies they gave to the so called Libyan rebels who double crossed THE Powers that BE!!

She murdered them, as if she pulled the trigger herself and got away with it. If she is willing to sacrifice her friend,  how quickly will she be willing to sacrifice someone she does not even know, perhaps you or me or our kids!!!!

Make no mistake people, the powers that be are not our friends or citizens.  They are traitors hell bent on destroying the republic through any means!!

We are in a generational, religious civil war. The difference between this one and the ones of centuries past, is they used swords and arrows, not nuclear, chemical, bio weapons.

We witness the last gasping breath's of air of the republic for which we stand!!

Their comes a day when the rule of law is no longer valid,I believe this day has come and gone. This is how holocausts,genocide are started, slowly removing the rights of the target group, vilifying them,nullifying their rights and making them the root cause for all the society's ills. Ever increasing the noose around their collective  necks, promising safety and security as the rest of society allows it to take place. The sheeple will sit idly by and allow it to happen.

But unlike previous holocausts,  the people of the republic are at their wits end, trying to stay on the side of the rule of law. The time is coming where that will no longer be the case. When the government puts into affect and makes the average citizen who lives by the second amendment  into criminals, which is coming, the union can no longer remain. Criminals care less about gun laws they by pass them all the time.Only law abiding citizens live by the rule of law!!

The grand father  Benjamin Franklin of our nation said it so right
Those who give up some of their liberty to obtain some temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

All of this are signs of what have come to pass or is to come, unprotected borders, unfettered immigration,  no common indoctrination,assimilation, the vilification of the common good.

The intentional globalization thrown out as a way to  fix these things, all hyper bole. The collusion between the drug cartels, politicians to infect the urban areas destroying the family while those same politicians spout their bullshit about trying to save  us. All the while profiting in secret bank accounts. The outright down sizing of the middle class by removing jobs with corporations in collusion with the government.  The corruption of politicians over the last century.

People the second amendment was put in place by our fore fathers to defend against these very events.

It is extremely hard for anyone to attack and be successful against 300 million well armed citizens all living by the same document and rule of law. The republic is at stake. I know most of you will not believe me, but just you wait in see, it will come to pass and the republic will be pushed to the breaking point!!

Make no mistake the barbarians are inside the gates and now the beginning of the final chapters of the republic are unfolding.What will it take for the people to wake the fuck up and band together to defeat the corruption and rot inside our republic!!! Lord give us the intestinal fortitude to complete the task at hand though we  are the lone survivor!!!

Rome is burning!!! History does repeat itself!!!

7/4/2016 8:23:26 PM
What is with all these emails from people who are in bdsm camps being trained.My god I have been living this way of life for decades and not once has anyone ever come forward with real names of the owners of such a place nor what the location or the curriculum.So hey girls I think you are getting jipped  to say the least. 

HAPPY 4th America. Take a moment to thank all of those souls who gave their lives to make us free and keep us that way!!!


REST IN  PEACE Brothers!!

7/1/2016 9:34:42 PM
I have been on this site for over a decade. I find it sad that most here have no intentions of ever living this in the real world.You can have a conversation with someone and within a few emails  you see they want action yet refuse to actually work towards making that happen.

I am a very practical pragmatic person I can focus on a specific topics to task and never let up.

As a house hold everyone here has a chore task  job if you will everyone has a purpose. so it is not all fantasy in the least.

Happy Birthday America !!! Let us hope we can live up to the standards for which our great country has endured.

5/19/2016 2:51:08 AM
Strange at how females want you to send them money yet most if they are real must be making money somehow.  Either by legally or  well as whores since they are online to begin with.

3/31/2016 11:33:15 AM
Due to circumstances  not of my own making  We will not be online much for the foreseeable future.Thank you for your patience!!!

2/4/2016 5:50:50 PM
  I have over 36 plus real years living this and my wife has over 20 real life years living this. We will not play out side of our house hold, nor do we play out side of the group we belong to.

Either you join our group and be part of it or you do not your choice!!! We will not leave what we have nor will we relocate.The only relocation that we are even remotely considering is what our long term plans are and have been for years.


1/29/2016 8:43:54 PM
I will believe every word you state and the commitment you make as soon as you actually walk through our doors  in the real world.

Most talk a good game, but when the reality of it hits them they run like scared children because they had no clue to what they chose!!!

1/15/2016 6:09:54 PM
Good luck in trying to find that white unicorn owner or slave.Everyone seeks the impossible these days must be nice to live in a fantasy world.

12/14/2015 2:15:04 AM
How sad it is these days that no matter where you go online these days  you are always being targeted to being scammed by those who pro trey themselves as genuine  partakers of the bdsm community. WE Will Never ever give money for those seeking enslavement or those who pretend to be owned another and being sold.Free slaves means exactly that you must make the effort

9/19/2015 6:14:37 PM
Congressmen who willfully take action during wartime that damages morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hung
 Abraham Lincoln

9/18/2015 11:36:34 PM
I just love the way players block you when you call them on their bullshit. Amazing how many on here claim to be real and seek real, yet when you begin the dialogue of weeding out the real form the bullshit the pile of shit grows larger.

We have always been open a honest and actually rather boring in just how stable we live. We try hard to live a sustainable living life.Prefer to keep it real and not try to create a false fantasy which always tend to blow up when you least expect it.

For those who know us, our first girl is doing much better  these days.

7/26/2015 8:04:35 PM
I the owner of our house hold maintain and keep this profile.I see no reason to delegate to another this task.Unlike many, who use their females to recruit other slaves, I prefer to do the work myself.I try to live a simple non complex life as such, I make it pretty clear of who we are and what we seek. We live in the country,and eventually we shall live even more remotely.We are very down to earth as they say not very high maintenance. So, if you are serious, we live by country standards.We know where our milk, food, meat, comes from. We work our collective asses off to live it.
So many so called slaves these days make or place conditions upon any potential owner/dom /domme. Not a very good slave like mind set. It always ends in disaster.

A slave who places conditions upon their owners is not being of service but demanding to be served.

7/9/2015 8:09:05 PM
"Honor to the soldier,  and sailor everywhere, who bravely bears his

country's cause.Honor also the citizen who cares for  his brother in the

field,and serves, as he best can,the same cause--honor to him,only less

then to him,who braves,for the common good,the storms of heaven and the

storms of battle."

President Abraham Lincoln

7/4/2015 6:41:38 AM
Happy 4th America Be well Be safe!!

6/29/2015 3:03:40 PM
As we come to the day of America's birthday we are more in turmoil then ever before. Please take a moment to gives thanks to all of those men and women who gave their all to make this country what it is.

A Veteran is someone who at one point in their life wrote a blank check payable to the United States of America for an amount up to and including, their life. A soldier does not get the choice to say I do not want to go or this fight is not for me, they go because, they took a oath to defend the constitution and the obey the Commander in Chief be he,she,race or a alien from Mars.That is beyond honor and there are way too many people in this country who no longer remember that fact. Copy and paste this to your journal if you are a Veteran,... know a Veteran, Love a Veteran, or Support the Troops! May God Bless Them All!!

And by all means if you feel as strongly about your personal freedoms to disrespect the covenants of the constitution the soldiers and servicemen who represent this great country, Feel free to stand up and in front of them the next time they are called to perform their duty and give the most precious thing, their lives. I have and will defend ones right to make a fool or do the most stupid thing under guise of freedom with my last dying breath up to the point, you violate or infringe  upon my rights and beliefs I took a oath to defend over3 decades for. Other wise shut the fuck up!!

6/24/2015 1:31:12 PM
Their is no such thing/animal as a perfect this or that, as is their is no perfect situation.Nor is their a white unicorn that actually exists. We all, no matter what we desire, must still deal with the big white elephant in the room REALITY is the mother fucker.

It is like trying to stop running away from your past. It has a nasty habit of coming directly in front of you at the worst possible moment in your life making it full circle.

Stop drinking the cool ade


6/18/2015 5:38:27 PM
Empty profile equals  empty lives.We will not answer anyone who is not willing to or lazy to fill out their profile.

It amazes us at how when you get down to the nitty gritty those who speak about intolerance on here and other sites are some of the first to be intolerant of others when confronted by their own hypocrisy.

4/15/2015 9:22:41 PM
If you are a true slave,  would you not travel to the ends of the earth to live out and serve the owners you desire to belong to?

3/2/2015 8:43:37 PM

will never  be destroyed from the outside.

If when we falter and lose our freedoms,it will be because

we destroyed ourselves"

President Abraham Lincoln

3/2/2015 7:52:43 PM
Why is it so hard for potential slaves to understand as a owner my responsibility starts the day you walk through my doors and not a second before that.

1/21/2015 4:18:54 AM
Why would anyone Demand/require/expect to be paid to be a slave. How insane and twisted. Reality check: If you think being paid to be a slave is reality,  I hate to ruin your damn fantasy, but the reality is your are a statutory employee at the very least and as such subject to the fair labor act.It is by far cheaper to just fly to Nevada and pay a professional their once a month then to deal with this nonsense.

Another insight, the 1950s  desire to live in that dynamic.The reality is if you live in the real world you can try to live in that dynamic, however the dollar back then was worth 90percent more then it does today so a man could take care of his house hold on one pay check. Now days, it takes two people working full time and then some, to just stay above water. So if you are trying to persuade the discussion towards that standard you must also understand how that standard relates in the real world today.

If you lie to us, you will be found out, if you lie to others on here we will know about it eventually. Deceit, untrustworthy,jealousy, hidden agendas, selfishness,insincerity, are not good traits for slaves or owners.

Fantasies are great, reality mostly sucks but living the fantasy in reality is what makes bdsm worth living.

12/24/2014 8:29:49 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Years !!

11/27/2014 5:04:42 AM
Happy Turkey Day may you enjoy the feast of plenty.

11/17/2014 3:54:52 PM
Recognizing, that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of my Ranger Battalion.

, the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster and fight harder than any other soldier.

r, shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be, one-hundred-percent and then some.

, will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well-trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.

will I meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field's of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.

, will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor.

Rangers Lead The Way!!!

RIP Peter Kassig



11/11/2014 1:49:06 AM
Rest IN Peace Wolfie 11/06/2014

Happy Veterans Day to all of my comrades in arms good job thank you for your continued service. For those who gave all, May your days ahead be peaceful in the stone garden while you wait for roll call.

10/3/2014 1:04:43 AM
Wow 20 more fakes trying to get gas for relocation  in these days must be a tough time moving these days

9/9/2014 2:00:35 PM
So much hate in the world. Nothing like intolerance for tolerance.How sad we live in a world that is so geared at creating such hate filled lives, that we cannot see how the future could bring us peace if we just allow people to move forward.

8/28/2014 7:03:12 PM
So here we are go again. It appears their is no way to fix stupid people from doing even more stupid shit.WE LIVE A FAIRLY STRAIGHT AND SIMPLE WAY OF LIFE.  Why complicate things with unrealistic goals.

8/9/2014 3:23:14 AM
Is it too much to require people these days that until I can verify you and you us in the real world which is actually pretty easy to do for us.Our house hold and world  in general is never going to be at risk.

Note to foreigners, in general to day if you decide to come to the USA  you do know your passport and visa goes through numerous security checks and evaluations just to be issued a visa  even if you are part of the system that the USA State Department  does  ot require a visa for.As for the wellican sneakinto the country to serve you or we use a servide that can help with that.

All  of that is just plain ol bullshit. If I as a citizen allow you to come to the USA knowing upfront you intend to sneak into the country I just committed two state felonies and at least one to 5 Federal felonies all punishable by years sitting in a federal prison with me new best friend bubba.

Do not believe all the damn hype that immigration to the USA is easy or cheap.

7/1/2014 4:57:53 AM
Just because someone has pics in their profile and is holding a camera does not constitute that they are in fact the same person you are conversing with.A verified pic is one where you can verify the person in the pic and the one conversing is one and the same, holding a piece of paper with one's profile id goes along way in building trust.

6/27/2014 2:17:31 AM
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second  down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first"

Pres.     Thomas Jefferson

"Here is your country.Cherish these natural wonders,cherish the natural resources, cherish the history and romance as a sacred heritage, for  your children and your children"s children.Do not  let selfish men or greedy interests skin your country of it's beauty, it's riches or it romance."

Theodore Roosevelt

6/23/2014 11:56:19 PM
My give a damn is busted

4/9/2014 4:51:48 AM

A slave who make demands or places conditions upon it's service,Is no slave

2/2/2014 9:28:17 PM


We need
to show more sympathy
for these people.

They travel miles in the

They risk their lives crossing a

They don't get paid enough

They do jobs that others won't do
or are afraid to do.

They live in crowded
among a people who
speak a different

They rarely see their families,
and they face adversity all day ~
every day.

I'm not
talking about illegal

I'm talking
about our troops!

Doesn't it seem strange that so
many are willing to lavish all kinds
of social benefits on illegals,
but don't support our troops?
Wouldn't it be great if we took
the $360,000,000,000 (that's billion)
we spend on illegals every
year, and spent it on our troops!!!

Please pass this on;
this is worth the
short time it takes!

How sad is it that American troops for no fault of their own are called upon to serve in the service of our nation and yet have to be on food stamps because we ca not take the time and effort to care for our serviceman's family properly.


A veteran is someone who,
at one point in their life,
wrote a blank check
made payable to
The United States of America for any amount, up to and including their life.


All who have served has given some, some have given all

 I took the oath to defend this great nation from foreign and domestic enemies at the tend age of 17.Last time I checked their is NO expiration date on the Constitution!!

My service grantees my right to to send this to anyone that I damn well please!


1/15/2014 1:13:13 PM

Ok kiddies another Fukashima update: Recent testing has confirmed that fish adjacent to the plant has 124 times the radiation above the accepted level of contamination.Further recent testing has confirmed that at the outer safety barrier the government has set up as the safe zone, the radiation levels are 8 times above the new accepted safe level at the outer barriers.This is far above even the more modest new levels the government set up last year.


This does not take into COUNT AERIAL LEVELS THAT ARE SPEWING FROM REACTOR 3.So for all the naysayers doubters and such the proof is already showing up on the us west coast.


So while we pay attention to who was at fault for a car parking lot in NJ on a damn bridge,the world as we know it is dieing for a lack of interest. TEPCO AND THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT ARE LIEING AND WORTHLESS.

1/5/2014 9:57:55 PM

We will not  negotiate with a slave. We won't make allocations for a potential slave.We offer something that is real and has been for decades,yes it does require a pretty heavy commitment, but so does anything worth living.


We first and foremost treat slaves as real property. As I do my dog or any of my other property. A slave is either trained or untrained meat to be broken, reprogrammed and owned. Most of the people we have met offline and on here tend to want to the fantasy fun stuff, but not the reality aspects of serving real owners.Once the euphoria  has worn off, they tend to want to move on,Which means they were never a slave, but more a subbie just seeking the next thrill.


Every day a slaves goes un owned, is another day lost to history.A slaves assets it's body loses any intrinsic value placed on it every day.Some ask what is a roman slave my definition is  it is property that serves lives and is kept as it were back in the days of the Romans in mind set and use.Roman slaves worked and lived their lives in service to their owners whims and life.  Not role play.

12/4/2013 7:15:59 PM

This is the price for freedom!!

Cpl. Joshua Hargis, a Ranger from Company B, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, was severely wounded during a direct action raid against an insurgent compound, Oct. 6, 2013, in Kandahar Province, Afghanistan. Just a few hours after extensive surgery, Col. Christopher S. Vanek, Commander of the 75th Ranger Regiment, awarded Hargis the Purple Heart. After receiving the award, Hargis began to move, surprising everyone in the room who thought he was still unconscious. The medical staff tried to restrain his right arm, fearing he would damage his intravenous tubes. Then everyone in the room realized what he was trying to do. He was trying to salute. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Eric J. Glassey)

Rangers Lead The Way!

11/11/2013 4:48:52 PM

Happy veteran's day to all my fellow vets and comrades on active duty stay safe!!

De Opresso Liber!!

11/1/2013 10:32:40 PM
I know the person who originally wrote this.
Remember, not only did you and I contribute to Social Security but your employer did, too.
It totaled 15% of your income before taxes.
If you averaged only $30K over your working life, that's close to $220,500.
Read that again.
Did you see where the Government paid in one single penny?
We are talking about the money you and your employer put in a Government bank to insure you and I that we would have a retirement check from the money we put in, not the Government.
Now they are calling the money we put in an entitlement when we reach the age to take it back.
If you calculate the future invested value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer's contribution) at a simple 5% interest (less than what the Government pays on the money that it borrows), after 49 years of working you'd
have $892,919.98.






If you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $26,787.60 per year and it would last better than 30 years (until you're 95 if you retire at age 65) and that's with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit!






If you bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you'd have a lifetime income of $2,976.40 per month.








Another thing with me....(Lady writing this), I have two deceased husbands who died in their 50's, (one was 51 and the other one was 59, before one percent of their social security could be drawn.






I worked all my life and am drawing 100% on my own social security






Their S.S. money will never have one cent drawn from what they paid into S.S. all their lives.


















Entitlement my foot, I paid cash for my social security insurance!








Just because they borrowed the money for other government spending, doesn't make my benefits some kind of charity or handout!!








Remember Congressional benefits? --- free healthcare, outrageous retirement packages, 67 paid holidays, three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick days.








Now that's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my social security retirement payments entitlements?






We're "broke" and we can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, or Homeless.






Yet in the last few months we have provided aid to Haiti , Chile and Turkey .






And now Pakistan .....home of bin Laden.






Literally, BILLIONS of DOLLARS!!!






And they can't help our own citizens in New York and New Jersey !






They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives, and now, when it's time for us to collect, the government is running out of money.






Why did the government borrow from it in the first place?






It was supposed to be in a locked box, not part of the general fund.




Sad isn't it.


99% of people won't have the guts to forward this.


I'm in the 1% --




I just did.






8/21/2013 2:02:02 AM

Nothing has changed,just more bullshit lying sacks of shit,con artists these days.We will be at Fetcon

5/22/2013 1:18:23 AM


We can and will cam verify ourselves our entire house hold if need be so we can prove who we are can you?


So either put up or shut the fuck up.



We work and live every day in the vanilla world like most do, the only difference between us and joe snuffy down the road is when we are home,we have a set hierarchy in place and live the way of life I want us to live within the confines of the world we live in. So for those fantasy seekers here is a reality check, no matter how extreme you seek it, what happens after you get what you think you want  is not in reality the fantasy ending you seek.


To our friends and those who live this as we do, We deeply sincerely apologize, if my words hurt.



Frankly speaking the jack asses who spew this garbage could care less.

3/6/2013 7:52:36 PM

Who was

Thomas Jefferson ?
This is amazing. There are two parts. Be sure to read the 2nd part (in

Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who started learning very early in life and never stopped.

At 5, began studying under his cousin's tutor.

At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French.

At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.

At 16, entered the College of William and Mary.

At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.

At 23, started his own law practice.

At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of British America ? And retired from his law practice.

At 32, was a Delegate to the Second Continental Congress.

At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence .

At 33, took three years to revise Virginia 's legal code and wrote a Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.

At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.

At 40, served in Congress for two years.

At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial treaties with European nations along with Ben Franklin and John Adams.

At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.

At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the American Philosophical Society.

At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of Republican Party.

At 57, was elected the third president of the United States .

At 60, obtained the Louisiana Purchase doubling the nation's size.

At 61, was elected to a second term as President.

At 65, retired to Monticello .

At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine.

At 81, almost single-handedly created the University of Virginia and served as its first president.

At 83, died on the 50th anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence along with John Adams.

Thomas Jefferson knew because he himself studied the previous failed attempts at government. He understood actual history, the nature of God, his laws and the nature of man. That happens to be way more than what most understand today. Jefferson really knew his stuff. A voice from the past to lead us in the future:

John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe ."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

I wish we could get this out to everyone!

I'm doing my part. Please do yours.



2/22/2013 6:47:45 PM

 Soviet Union  In 1929, established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Turkey In 1911, established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WW II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!"




1/25/2013 3:58:06 AM

First let me preface my remarks by stating that I am not a 'gun guy'. I do not
do not go on buying frenzies for hunting gear or a new gun every weekend. I do not target shoot. I do not collect guns. I do not belong to the NRA. I
do not live in a 'rough' part of town. I own guns, The last time I fired a shot in anger was in 1992

That being said, there are many people today, (myself included), who have a deep,
(and a legitimate), distrust of the government.

They believe that it is in the nature of governments to accumulate and to
concentrate more and more power over people's lives. More power leads to more

It has always been so. As Lord Acton so famously stated, "Power corrupts, and
absolute power corrupts absolutely." Meaning that those who are given power over
others will use that power.

Even if the government is not specifically intending to do so, it is the nature
of large governments that this occurs.

Now the government may espouse their desire to help the citizenry, but when
individuals disagree with what the government determines is in their best
interest, then those in power use coercion. Sometimes subtle sometimes not so


This concentration of power and increasing coercion can be gradual (like slowly
turning up the heat on a lobster in a pot), or sudden (like dropping him into
boiling water).

One need only be a casual student of history to see the process at work again and
again and again.


The Second Amendment is *our* guarantee that this loss of individual freedom and
increasing control of our lives cannot be done with impunity.

Take a moment and look around, One need only look at what is occurring in Syria,Egypt, Mexico, or any of a dozen other locations around the globe to see examples of what happens when the government controls the people and when the people are defenseless to resist.


Now you may feel that this distrust is not warranted, or that it verges on
paranoia. Many might agree with you. However many more, would not.


The Founding Fathers believed fervently that ordinary citizens needed to be
protected from an oppressive government. If they had not, then there would not
have been a Second Amendment in the first instance.



They were *very* distrustful of the concentration of power into the hands of the
few. They set up safeguards against it by diluting that power into different
branches and different levels. They tried to define precisely just who could do
what, and what things they could not do.


They added further protections in the Bill of Rights.

The Founding Fathers, I am certain, would be aghast at the degree to which the
government controls the lives of Americans today. Indeed, they went into
rebellion over transgressions less onerous than what we today have allowed to be
imposed upon us.

Read the Declaration of Independence. Look at the reasons that are enumerated
there. They speak of an oppressive government seeking to impose it's will upon
the citizenry.

The Second Amendment was NEVER about what type of arms citizens might own or
about what the technological developments of the future might bring. It was not
about hunting. It was not about home defense. It was not about target shooting.
It was about the ability of citizens to oppose and resist the oppression of a
tyrannical government.

There are those Americans that honestly feel that this point of view is not
applicable to the 21st century; that such concerns are the things of history.
They label those like myself, as 'gun nuts' or as paranoid, even dangerous.

If you are one that believes that this distrust is stuff out of a dusty history
book, and has no relevance in the 21st century, then I urge you again to to look
around more carefully.

Those of us that support the Second Amendment feel that it's relevance is as
valid now as it was when it was first penned.


Plutocratic views requires us to destroy every fragment of our uniqueness as a country 


The real criminals are the ones who try to disarm the citizenry so they can plunder and force their will upon a free people. 

Just remember that when you are up against a wall while a criminal robs,rapes or murder's you with impunity.

Or the government decides you the citizen no longer deserve the rights you were guaranteed by men who chose liberty, freedom, death over false wealth and tyranny.

Once the government takes the only thing they fear, what are you going to do to convince  or correct them of their errors? 

12/21/2012 2:25:39 AM

I carry a gun because I am tool damn old to carry a grown police man


I joined the army in 1979 I took an oath to "......defend the Constitution Of The United States Of America against all enemy's, foreign and domestic". I left the army in 1992 but that oath has no expiration date.

12/10/2012 3:28:08 AM

A Veteran is someone who at one point in their life wrote a blank check payable to the United States of America for an amount up to and including, their life. That is beyond honor and there are way too many people in this country who no longer remember that fact. Copy and paste this as your journal if you are a Veteran,... know a Veteran, Love a Veteran, or Support the Troops! May God Bless Them All

10/26/2012 4:19:31 AM

I cannot believe the people on here who think they can create a lie, ruse what ever and think it will not be found out. We try to take people for their words until their word is no longer worth trusting. We give our word it is true so treat us with respect and you will be treated the same. We have digressed in the world to mud slinging crap, what a waste of species we have become.

7/24/2012 6:47:19 AM

Life goes on poor or rich it is life and the journey on that path that makes life what it is.

Their is no such thing as the perfect fit,or the right one.This medium, venue at best is a conduit to engage with others potential possibilities, nothing more.Anyone who thinks that they can find the perfect one or situation is delusional, especially if you consider the fact that only one out of a hundred even remotely tell the truth in any given profile.

5/29/2012 10:14:31 PM

WTF? People wonder why I am soo fucking serious about this. Well with the  world going to hell in a hand basket and zombies on the loose in MIAMI, even as a sadist I could not remotely make up the shit I have seen in my life.Let alone watch the shit now going on with the meltdown currently coming our way.


What are you going to do when hundreds of people come kicking down your door?Or grab you on the side of a road and eat your face?


Just remember only the one's best prepared and strong enough survive!!!!

Soylent green here we come.

11/21/2011 7:48:17 AM




11/5/2011 8:57:44 PM



You think that the word slave means I can get what ever I want 


You demand anything other then real servitude


You place conditions on your enslavement


You think that slavery is about you 


You think that this is all about your fantasies 


You think that you deserve to be pampered


You place you above all others


You think your looks and your holes gives you privileged status

10/27/2011 7:11:51 PM




I normally do not post comments, however having served in the 1st bat, for many years and deployed. I know first hand the sacrifice the younger  rangers make these days.All they ask is to be respected, They know the job and relish the opportunity to complete the mission. whether you believe the wars are just or not.  We took a oath to defend our way of life and the Constitution and will give the ultimate sacrifice like this young airborne ranger did,if required. Rangers Lead the Way!!   De Opresso Liber !!


1/5/2011 10:31:03 PM

The PONZI scheme of the modern era is about to reach it's apex, who remains standing will be few. The fiat currencies are doomed to collapse, it s only a matter of time.Just like the Roman's when Rome was burning.


The  end is in sight, if you have no clue or refuse to see,then do not cry or expect those of us who have taken the time to prepare  to give a rats ass about you and your materialistic ways. I shall take no quarter nor shall I give any.



Just remember this the facade of modern life can easily be removed just by simply removing the modern convenience of electricity.

11/22/2010 9:14:01 PM

Look here are a few pet peeves.
One, most on here are not ever going to move forward.We have been on this site for well over five years as well as other sites since the inception of the web, so we are well versed in reality based slavery and the nonsense most on here are playing or trying to shove up our ass..

This is simple, we talk, we try to find those who seek what we offer, no bullshit ,no whining, just reality with real people.
Those seeking fantasy based enslavement play all sorts of games trying to find that ideal situation, which from our extensive real life experience know first hand does not exist.

Or worse they want to find someone where they can live a life of luxery and not have to deal with the real world at someone elses expense. Again just another waste of time and effort. Dillusions of grander.

We are real and have been for a very long time. We live it day in day out, no matter how many fail to show up or those that do who have hidden agendas, we remain consistent in our standards.



Over the years we have become aware that many think the club scene or munch community is the only thing that  matters or makes you real.However in our experience we find that most of the real life bdsm, gorean and other factions in the greater bdsm community live it completely away from the munch,club,event scene. I am not hacking or trying to shove smoke up any one's ass as to which is better, however the intolerance we witness everyday both online and offline is forcing many real life d/s couples to leave and head back underground.



11/6/2010 9:52:53 PM

We are an established house and have been for  over 20 years.  More players, liers, scammers on this site and others, we seriously doubt anyone real is left.

9/9/2010 7:23:51 PM
Ever get the feeling the more hot looking the pic is, the more likely it is a poser or worse a scammer.How sad !!!!!

5/23/2010 2:10:10 AM
Hello all we are now seeking slaves
new house positions Open?

Domestic slave
Outside barn labor slave
Pain slave
Toilet slave
General house slave
We will also consider finaical slaves and rubber Slaves on a case by case basis

1/21/2006 9:28:19 PM

5/24/2005 9:14:14 AM
Hello kiddies we are fine  we are persuing the farm  and working like most in the life style. If you want to contact us we are listed on yahoo as DOMGMR

1/23/2005 9:35:06 PM
Hello  everyone  just taking a minute to  let all of our friends know we are alive and well.
Yes we are in the process of moving shortly to a farm that we have found that meets our needs. We hope  we are  able to move forward  as we have planned.

Yes we still seeking real slaves, we expect most who contact us, will never move forward for various reasons. How ever for those who do, we are  what we say we are, nothing more nothing less. We consider those who do choose to serve in our house to want to walk a path less traveled  to most.

Yes we can be extreme or mild. We only seek those who want to really live this way of life as part of thier life they live currently the blend between vanilla and bdsm can be done. Nothing  worth having is ever as easy as a lot think it is. some of you have expressed interest in joining our community for those of you desire to be part of a community that is based upon traditional bdsm life style priniciples we will respond to real inquiries. We are opening in the near  future a website detailing our community. Stay tuned!!

Be safe, Be productive, Serve Well!
The House of Domgmr

12/24/2004 11:24:39 PM
To one and all We wish you the deepest heart felt wishes for a happy Christmas and New year.  This past year has been very tumultious time for the family, how ever we remain focused. Those of you who have become our friends We thank you for the support.

As you sit down to dinner and open your presents, please take a moment, and give thanks to our loved ones, our soldiers in arms, those who have placed themselves in harms way.

We hope they return to their families and lives safely. Be well Be safe  Stand well  

12/16/2004 1:06:47 PM


10/10/2004 3:12:30 PM
It seems more and more fail to understand let alone comprehend what the term slave means   in serving, to those who live by thier word. 

Most here do not know the meaning of loyalty, honor,respect, or trustworthyness.

 More and more are lyeing or  posers  who lie about who they are, or what they seek Sad, really is sad.  what do they gain by betraying the very words that come out of thier collective mouths, but to only increase the likelyhood of those who live it to once again go back underground.

To the ones who live by honor and thier word, I can only hope you find what it is you seek.

This medium was created to allow us to communicate openly with tolerance for all of those who come here, yet I see more and more the bigotry and pettiness that makes the web more like a circus, then a place to learn and grow within the lifestyle. I can only hope my jaded perpsective, does not become my only perspective. For if it does, we truelly have lost what being in the lifestyle is about, why we came to live it to begin with
Be well Long life  


9/21/2004 2:22:41 AM
I must assume that few understand that honesty and being upfront is key in living in any relationship. we are soo tired of the players.
  all we ask/  is those who desire this way to live must be upfront. too many lies  too many who say one thing then do another when faced with reality

9/3/2004 2:08:12 PM
Well Kiddies  it looks like we will not be online for a while, since we  are starting to get storm bands form the huricane Francis.  For those of you who know us we can only say thank you and hope you have a safe journey through the storm. We are not going anywhere. No where to go  and even if there was, kinda hard to go there with no fuel to get there, most of the gas stations along I 75 are already reporting they are out of fuel.  So be careful if you are on the road now and checking in,  you can reach us by phone we will take as many as we can safely hold. Be safe May god be with you
Domgmr DomgmrLady
Chained_goddess  southerncrystal
Thee Goren Society

8/30/2004 6:34:53 PM
well what to say????  It seems more and more, most have no clue as to how reality in this lifestyle is dictated by vanilla circumstances.

Alot want this way of life, but fail to under stand,  in order to serve, one must be willing to serve to her owners desires, needs, expectations.  They only see the fantasy of this lifestyle. What happens after the glow of the first few weeks and months?, Once you have settled into the everyday life or worse, a slaves and owners  gets sick, it is a  part of life either in  the lifestyle or not.
No Master nor slave can control these aspects of life, only God can.
What burns my ass is the lack of understanding of those who call themselves in the life style today. What happened to the tolerence of others of long ago ?
I stand behind my principles that govern myself, my household and the group I founded.  For without honor there can be nothing worth saving.
I am just a man,   I live in balance with what I am and  the journey I walk.   The path less traveled is far more rewarding, then the path more traveled.  for  where it ends everyone has already been.

8/18/2004 6:06:44 PM
You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone
in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to
anyone who killed an American, any American.
So an Australian dentist wrote the following to
let everyone know what an American is, so they would
know when they found one. (Good on ya, mate!!!!)
An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be
Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese,
Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani, or Afghan. An American may also be a Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.
An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish,
or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more
Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses. An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God. An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person the pursuit of happiness. An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need. When Afghanistan was overrun by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win
back their country.! As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan. Americans welcome the best, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best athletes. But they also welcome the least. The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America. Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. I've been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 other countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists. So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and every bloodthirsty tyrant in the history of the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.
Author unknown  

 America is a microcosim of the world. We are always about change.  It is who we are.We may be individuals, but we are based upon a piece of paper  the brings us together as ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!

8/8/2004 1:36:23 AM
Some of you have asked what are the requirements of the society. WE ARE THE TRAINING HOUSE OF THEE GOREN SOCIETY Our house is a established old house. The training house is only avaible certain times of year. Only a few slots are available. only slaves who are active members of the society may petition for training. New Slave applicants must be willing to be interviewed and housed with Elder's of the Society for a minimum of a year in order to become members of the Society.

7/23/2004 4:34:23 PM
FOR THOSE WHO FORGET THE REAL COST OF FREEDOM "The Pledge of Allegiance" - Senator John McCain As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room. This was,as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home. One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian. Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. ! He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School. Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military provide for people who want to work and want to succeed. As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing. Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt. Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance. I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most important and meaningful event. One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically,and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it. That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours. Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could.. The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we slept. Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room. As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag. He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country. So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance,you must never forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation UNDER GOD , indivisible,with liberty and justice for all."

7/8/2004 5:08:48 PM
I have moved the definitions from our profile in order for those who need clarification and find them easily.

D/S Household = A structured household  that lives a structured lifestyle integrated into a D/s BDSM way of life. We do not just play on the weekends or in the Bedroom, we use the whole damn house.
BDSM =  Bondage, Domination, Sadism, Masochism
POLY =   Means to have more than one. In this contex more than one slave. in a standard poly structure more than one love or
wife/husband at the same time
Master =   Dominate Male also referred to as Dom or Owner
Mistress = Dominate Female also referred to Domme Or Owner
Triads =     Are a  three persons or more in the same relationship,they are a polymorous in nature. Each person within a triad persues outside relationships, while maintaining indivudual relationships.  Where as poly houses tend to stay within this structured relationship, A D/s Poly house  is a highly structured household. It  can be either Male led or Female led, but most old houses are Male led.
Old Guard =  Most often refers to those who lived in what is now commonly refferred to the Lifestyle before 1980. More accurately it is those who started this way of life after World War II. They were  predominately Ex military Vets and Homosexual. Those of the Old Guard  loosely based this lifestyle on military protocals.

7/5/2004 10:18:58 PM
well after much thought we have decided not to persue any further!!! We are stepping back. We are no longer going to be active in the public BDSM life style. Just too many liers and posers anymore. I am not going to jepardise my family for those who do not respect what we are about just fed up.!!!!! I hope you find what ever it is you seek and enjoy it with those who care about you and you care about them for life is fleeting and times does not stop for anyone we all die it is not how we die that is important, but how we live that is !!

5/14/2004 7:11:46 PM
I feell that i must set the record straight some have why are we fighting this War  Well my only answer to this is even though i disagree with whjy this war was started I do agree that it is a war that will bring the world top it knees even now it has caused a major back lash against us.
To my fellow brethren I only Hope you come home safely

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